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Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

Yeah, I know...the pictures were taken by liberal cameras :lmao




Liberals are communists....


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They are also troop haters and anarchists...

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Seriously for every little ambiguous picture you find that you think means the tea party is racist, I can find ten or more of these types of photos showing liberals as troop hating communists.... It's an asinine tactic you deploy, and absurd I don't think all liberals are communist troop haters, you would be smart to not use this dishonest tactic on us.

What you are doing is dishonest, and does not lend to honest discussion, you would be wise to drop it, You will lose.
 
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Yeah, I know...the pictures were taken by liberal cameras :lmao

The "planting" of fake tea partiers has been verified many times. What you think we all have no memories or something? Sheesh, do you work for media Matters?

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The "planting" of fake tea partiers has been verified many times. What you think we all have no memories of something? Sheesh, do you work for media Matters?

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The man in the first picture is the head of one of the Tea "parties". I guess he's a phony, huh?
 
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Is why every so-called tea party candidate is a republican and not a democrat or 3rd party candidate? The whole Tea Party thing is nothing more than a scam to get people to still vote for republicans.

The Tea Party, at local levels isn't a scam at all, but a real grass roots movement by people who are sick to death of the government trying to run their lives. At the National level, however, it has been hijacked by Neocons who lost power, and will do anything at all to get it back, including hijacking a legitimate movement and perverting it for their own political ends.
 
I guess that's why he's hanging out with the Teabaggers co-ordinators.



Irony, your sig has it. :lol:


Did you even read the link, he does NOT hang out with any teaparty organizers, even the teabagged should be able to see it.
 
The Tea Party, at local levels isn't a scam at all, but a real grass roots movement by people who are sick to death of the government trying to run their lives. At the National level, however, it has been hijacked by Neocons who lost power, and will do anything at all to get it back, including hijacking a legitimate movement and perverting it for their own political ends.



this is when you make sense. I agree.
 
Which corner and what date please?

Near Andrews St, outside the First Federal Building on Main St, where I worked at the time, last spring, when I was working there. They were standing around the stone benches near the bridges across the river. There were only fifty or sixty of them when I was there, but had been substantially more a a few hours earlier, around noon. I was down around two when taking a short break with some of my co-workers. Do you know the spot I'm talking about?



Wrong. Hersay is Paschendale telling you what he heard someone else say. FAIL.

Actually, according to rule 801 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, hearsay is "a statement, other than one made by a declarant while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted, i.e., the content of the statement."

"A statement being, an oral or written assertion or nonverbal conduct of a person, if it is intended by him as an assertion. The term “assertion” includes both matters directly expressed and matters necessarily implicitly being asserted."

The rule then goes on to list numerous exceptions. Such as the following:

Hearsay refers to private conversation. If you and I are in a room together, my testimony as to things you said is (sometimes) not admissable. However, the assertions of a political group, made in a public space, are freely observable, and so testimony of the goings on there does not fall under the definition of hearsay.

A statement is not also hearsay if it is evidence to impeach prior testimony, in this case, Hicup's statements about the Rochester Tea Party. I am not offering new evidence, merely calling his into question. Evidence cannot be offered via hearsay, impeachment of other testimony can.

All of this comes from §801 of the Federal Rules of Evidence. And this would clearly matter if we were in a court of law, which we are not. We're debating the Tea Party on a forum. If we were in court, my testimony could not be used to establish a racist motive on the part of a Tea Partier if, for example, one were accused of a racially motivated crime. It could, however, be used to disprove evidence that would be offered to portray the Tea Party as not racist. What I am saying is exactly not hearsay, and anyone with a legal background and education like say... me, can tell you that easily.

But again, we're not in court. What you are doing is calling me a liar because I saw something you wish I didn't. The same thing those photos above showed. The stupid counter is "well gee, clearly this doesn't show that ALL Tea Partiers are racist!" Of course not. No one is suggesting they all are. Just that a significant portion are, enough to affect the agendas of Tea Party politicians, and the voting habits of the Tea Party as a statistical bloc. They don't ALL have to be bigots, just enough to ensure that bigoted policies pass.
 
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Pasch -
Near Andrews St, outside the First Federal Building on Main St, where I worked at the time, last spring, when I was working there. They were standing around the stone benches near the bridges across the river. There were only fifty or sixty of them when I was there, but had been substantially more a a few hours earlier, around noon. I was down around two when taking a short break with some of my co-workers. Do you know the spot I'm talking about?

I do know where you're talking about, but I wanted to know the date to see if it was an official gathering. One of our local talk show guys, (You might know him) Bob Lonsberry has taken an active role in the Tea Party here, and is a big boost for us.. Like I said, give me a date. i know of no one in our group that is like you describe, not a single person.


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Pasch -

I do know where you're talking about, but I wanted to know the date to see if it was an official gathering. One of our local talk show guys, (You might know him) Bob Lonsberry has taken an active role in the Tea Party here, and is a big boost for us.. Like I said, give me a date. i know of no one in our group that is like you describe, not a single person.


Tim-

I don't remember the date, it was over a year ago. I would guess sometime in March or April. A lot of the snow had melted by them. It was official, though. They made announcements on the news and advertised it as such. Those same signs that I saw and speeches I heard were likely covered on the news, as well. But still, my voice is just a drop in the bucket of many many people who are sick of the Tea Party ignoring their own platforms. I'm sure you don't personally agree with (some of) the party's bigoted messages, and so associate yourself with the parts that do not espouse them. But you cannot deny that they do not exist. They clearly do. They hold rallies. They make public statements. They go on TV with signs full of hateful and bigoted slogans and talk about taking back the country from blacks, Jews, Muslims, gays, Hispanics... Just because your Tea Party friends don't say those things (to you), doesn't mean that other Tea Partiers do not, and all the records of them saying exactly those things are somehow false.
 
Pasch -

I do know where you're talking about, but I wanted to know the date to see if it was an official gathering. One of our local talk show guys, (You might know him) Bob Lonsberry has taken an active role in the Tea Party here, and is a big boost for us.. Like I said, give me a date. i know of no one in our group that is like you describe, not a single person.


Tim-

Maybe this is it
2010 Tax Day Rochester Tea Party, April 15, 11:30am

Note the comments, filled with arguments about abortion, religion, evolution, etc...so much for the teabaggers being about taxes and limited govt
 
Maybe this is it
2010 Tax Day Rochester Tea Party, April 15, 11:30am

Note the comments, filled with arguments about abortion, religion, evolution, etc...so much for the teabaggers being about taxes and limited govt

Did you read the article? I wasn't at this tea party gathering, so I can't comment on either truth nor untruths. What I can say is that racism, or any other vulgar displays are not permitted by our group, and anyone that wants to go that way is quickly shunned.

As to Pasch... The same could be said about any party, democrats, republicans, green party you name it. They all have their fringe groups, and labelling the tea party as a racist party is just plain inaccurate.. Simple as that.


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James? That's not the definition of hearsay. He's an actual witness. Hearsay would be his buddy telling him he saw it, and P relaying it to us.

To wit:



See bolded.


HE claims to be a witness. He has no evidence of that he was actually there and considering his strong dislike I have no reason to believe he was actually there.

Hear say is also this
Hear say | Define Hear say at Dictionary.com

an item of idle or unverified information or gossip; rumor: a malicious hearsay.
 
Nope. No evidence what so ever



Then I guess the pictures ReverendHellh0und found must be evidence that all liberals hate the troops, are communist and anarchists.

Liberals are communists....


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They are also troop haters and anarchists...

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Look all liberals must be anti-war trash who want troops to shoot their commanding officers since there is a picture of them holding a sign.
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