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Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

Ikari said:
And taxes may have to go up at some point. If we are unwilling to cut SS or Medicade and Medicare, then we have to pay for them.
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Then let us broaden the tax base to include the nearly half of us who do not pay any federal income taxes. After a decade of that plus cutting every department that is extra-constitutional, and having the government sell its massive land holdings, let us revisit increasing taxes on productive people.
 
BDBoop said:
Exactly. It's all a bunch of posturing bastards. McConnell even said “I refuse to help Barack Obama get reelected by marching Republicans into a position where we have co-ownership of a bad economy.”
So no. He doesn't want to do his duly elected job. He wants to WIN!
Disgusting git.
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LOL. I don't like McConnell because the McConnell plan indicates a mindset of caving in the the Democrats. But I agree that we should not provide ammunition to the one term Marxist president Obama. He needs to fail on his own.
 
donsutherland1 said:
Mr. Levin knows full well that a complete refusal to compromise will lead to a failed negotiation.
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We can allow the Democrats to compromise this time. Let's see your spending cuts. Let's agree to craft and vote on a balanced budget amendment. Let us agree to begin closing down the extra-constitutional departments and fire all of the one term Marxist president Obama's Czars. Then let us agree to begin deregulating the American economy. Let's lower our corporate tax rate to the lowest of all of the developed countries.

Let us once again crave liberty. Let us crave freedom.
 
Taylor said:
What's puzzling is Obama's insistence that no revenue-generating mechanism is acceptable unless it includes a tax hike on the rich.
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Marxist philosophy calls for centralization of power and the redistribution of wealth. The one term president grew up in the presence of Marxists, communists, and socialists. He is Marxist in his core principles. Therefore, he has a need to defund his enemies through confiscatory taxes, and to redistribute their wealth to his base through the explosive growth of public sector unions and government workers.
 
Misterveritis said:
I love that he occasionally swerves in to the truth. He is bluffing.

LOL.
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sookster said:
This is blind irrational hate towards a man simply because of his views. I am talking to Obama.
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You are talking to the one term Marxist president?
sookster said:
You are just the same as KKK, or the Nazi's. You will blindly hate no matter what evidence is thrown your way. Rationality has been replaced with irrationality.
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Awesome. The Ku Klux Klan and the National Socialist Party. Well. I guess that finishes the debate.
 
sookster said:
You still have not talked about what I said originally. The fact that we have a system at all, is due to the administration's act on the system, giving 700 billion to The Fed in order to bailout institutions whose failure would bring too high of systemic risk.

Again, let me say it again and again. We have a system right now. The fact that you are saying that Obama promised so much unemployment is thanks to his actions in saving our current system.
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Your avatar block tells the real truth. Location: In your own world.
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
What has he accomplished? Here you go:
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Let us look at part of the list just to notice how much wealth redistribution is in it. Everywhere you see credit you see a loophole that the one term Marxist president Obama now wants to close.

25 Tax Cuts Passed By Obama & Democrats[3]
Individuals

“Making Work Pay” tax credit
Earned Income Tax Credit increased
Increased Eligibility for Refundable Portion of Child Credit
“American Opportunity” Education Tax Credit
First-time Home Buyer Credit
Temp. Suspension of Taxation of Unemployment Benefits
Tax Credits for Energy-Efficient Improvements to Existing Homes
Sales Tax Deduction for Vehicle Purchases
Premium Credits for COBRA Continuation Coverage for Unemployed Workers
Economic Recovery Credits to Recipients of Social Security, SSI, RR Retirement, and Veterans Disability Compensation Benefits
Computers as Qualified Education Expenses in 529 Education Plans
Plug-in Electric Drive Vehicle Credit
Tax Parity for Transit Benefits
Health Coverage Tax Credit Expansion

Small Business

Extension of Enhanced Small Business Expensing
5-Year Carryback of Net Operating Losses for Small Businesses
Extension of Bonus Depreciation
Exclusion of 75% of Small Business Capital Gains from Taxes
Temporary Small Business Estimated Tax Payment Relief
Temporary Reduction of S Corporation Built-In Gains Holding Period from 10 Years to 7 Years

Other Business

Advanced Energy Investment Credit
Tax Credits for Alternative Refueling Property
Work Opportunity Tax Credits for Hiring Unemployed Veterans and Disconnected Youth
Delayed Recognition of Certain Cancellation of Debt Income
Election to Accelerate Recognition of Historic AMT/R&D Credits

Fun Fact: 1/3 of the $862 billion stimulus was for tax cuts, something Republicans claim to support … although they still stand against stimulus. I suppose it depends on who gets the tax cuts. <Allegedly?>

. . . Various busybody laws deleted

Education
Student loans[1]
Ends “socialistic” federal subsidies to banks and other financial institutions (Interestingly, Republicans are okay with the kind of socialism that redirects taxpayer money to banks and other financial institutions.)
Eliminates unnecessary “middle-man” in student loan process, which placed financial burden on taxpayers while banks took in profits
Annual student loan payment capped at 10% of income
Saves an estimated $61 billion over 10 years
<This was the nationalization of the student loan program. Can we whisper the term "Marxist"?>


Health Care
Children’s health insurance bill[2]
CBO said bill will allow states to cover more than four million uninsured children by 2013, in addition to seven million already covered
Requires states to provide dental and mental illness coverage to children
Health care reform
Insurers cannot cancel coverage when a person gets sick
Requires health insurance corporations to cover preexisting conditions
Eliminates lifetime limits
Allows insurance purchase across state lines
Allows young adults to stay on parents’ health insurance policy until 26
<This was the nationalization of the health care industry on a time frame intended to conceal its damage until after the One term Marxist president gets safely re-elected... Can we whisper the term "Marxist"?>


Crime & Civil Rights
Hate crime legislation[4] ...because who could possibly be against punishing someone more for a crime if they "hated"?
Provides protection for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people
Tribal Law and Order Act
Provide additional means to reduce high rates of violent crime, including rape & sexual assualt within Native American reservations
View the rescuetruth.com post on the Tribal Law and Order Act

Other
The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
Expands service and voluteer opportunites
Benefits education, health care, energy, etc.
Wasn't this 'paid-volunteerism? LOL.

Stimulus
Cash for Clunkers successfully contributed to 680,000+ vehicle sales in summer 2009
Largest clean energy investment ever made Left-propaganda
Reduced deficit by $122 billion[5] Left-propaganda
Reduced federal spending by 2%[5] Left-propaganda
 
Misterveritis said:
Then let us broaden the tax base to include the nearly half of us who do not pay any federal income taxes. After a decade of that plus cutting every department that is extra-constitutional, and having the government sell its massive land holdings, let us revisit increasing taxes on productive people.
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Misterveritis said:
Let us look at part of the list just to notice how much wealth redistribution is in it. Everywhere you see credit you see a loophole that the one term Marxist president Obama now wants to close.
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How do you debate someone who posts like this?

Conservatives created this situation where nearly half of us don't pay federal income taxes, now they want to reverse it, which is a good thing.
Obama creates all these tax credits but wants to reverse them now, but this is a bad thing.
 
Redress said:
People with a whole lot more knowledge than you, me or cpwill think bad things could happen. They have real evidence to point to. Casually ignoring that because it does not fit in with your views is foolish.
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Let's risk it. The risk of doing something to stop this extra-constitutional government now is far less than the risk of increasing our spending. Let us get a balanced budget amendment going. Let's start closing down those vast bureaucracies filled with busy bodies who monitor our lives and make us miserable for our own good. Let us return to a Constitutionally-limited government once again. Let's start by agreeing to a course with large, permanent, current spending cuts and no new taxes. Let's widen the tax base so that all pay some.
 
evanescence said:
If the US defaults on its debt, the value of the dollar will decrease to the point where hyper inflation takes place.
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Significant inflation has already begun. Nearly a year ago the sizes of the packages of things I bought were reduced by up to 20% in order to keep the obvious price increase from being, well, obvious.

Today I marveled at how much the prices of everything have increased. We have the Obama-depression and Obama-inflation. J. Carter's misery index is once again needed. Between unemployment and inflation I bet the one term Marxist president Obama has the inept president Carter matched if not beaten.
 
You cannot take anyone seriously who uses the term marxist in this context. It's plainly silly.
 
Boo Radley said:
You cannot take anyone seriously who uses the term marxist in this context. It's plainly silly.
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Do people just ignore the severe ignorance that goes with using that insult towards Obama because they have nothing else to fall back on?
 
Brady said:
Do people just ignore the severe ignorance that goes with using that insult towards Obama because they have nothing else to fall back on?
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Quite likely.
 
nothing else to fall back on...

unemployment, debt, housing, inflation, obamacare, afghanistan, libya, the sale of 40000 assault weapons to mexican drug cartels, the fact he hasn't passed a budget in 3 years...

why do you think orszag and romers and summers all quit?
 
It doesn't further an arguement to use the term "Marxist" or something like that but if Bush was still president you wouldn't see those complaining now, complaining.
 
The Prof said:
nothing else to fall back on...

unemployment, debt, housing, inflation, obamacare, afghanistan, libya, the sale of 40000 assault weapons to mexican drug cartels, the fact he hasn't passed a budget in 3 years...
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All legitimate reasons to criticize Obama, but none of them make him a "Marxist."
 
rocket88 said:
All legitimate reasons to criticize Obama, but none of them make him a "Marxist."
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Just curious, but would "statist" be a fair word?
 
1Perry said:
It doesn't further an arguement to use the term "Marxist" or something like that but if Bush was still president you wouldn't see those complaining now, complaining.
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President Bush is a statist. That is nearly as bad as being a Marxist.

President Obama has deep Marxist roots. He was raised surrounded by Marxists, socialists and communists. It forms the central part of who he is.
Is the term a perfect fit? No. But no term ever is. Still, until he leaves office in a very little while I sshall continue to call him the one term Marxist president. May we NEVER have another.
 
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