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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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Waiting for you to prove me wrong and that I ran when that happened.

Isn't sticking your fingers in your ears and going nanananana running? When have you ever addressed an actual point? Yep, hello pot. :coffeepap
 
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You have to love these guys.....Obama is responsible for all of Bush's failures.
Clinton is responsible for the worst attack on our country that occurred on Bush's watch....oh...and Bush deserves credit for capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden despite the fact that he didn't really spend any time thinking about him or going after him.

Its all gamemanship to the wingers.

Let's just ignore all the parties and try to remember that Rome wasn't built in a day, and it's not going to be repaired in one (term) either.
 
I will never accept the statement that tax cuts are an expense to the govt.

Then that just makes one less spending issue that can't be attributed to Obama, so all you're left with is Obamas stimulus (which was mostly tax cuts, so you can't include that either) and the extension of UI

I love it when the rightwingers unknowingly undermine their own arguments
 
I will never accept the statement that tax cuts are an expense to the govt. I posted the line item expenses of the govt. and tax cuts isn't there.

So lets say that you work two jobs and bring in $68,000.00 per year in wages from both jobs. You tell your wife that you are quitting one job and will not have 25K of that 68 any longer.

Do you think she will but that its not going to impact your household finances?
 
If those funds were "redistributed" back into Treasury to pay for extended tax cuts or extended unemployment benefits, I'd say both were valid expenditures under present day economic circumstances.

Either way, the paying back doesn't show on a chart that lists only spending because "paying back" is not spending.
 
I've never heard anybody up against a budget say "I need to cut out food, clothing and shelter, but I refuse to look for a part-time job to supplement what we have coming in."
 
I've never heard anybody up against a budget say "I need to cut out food, clothing and shelter, but I refuse to look for a part-time job to supplement what we have coming in."

I'm guessing you don't hang out with the rightie wingnuts :lol:
 
Isn't sticking your fingers in your ears and going nanananana running? When have you ever addressed an actual point? Yep, hello pot. :coffeepap

I have addressed every point you ever made even though most of them are biased, off based, and contrary to reality. Nice attempt however to derail this thread. I back up my posts with facts that are verifiable. Noticed you and every other liberal here running from the data. Not surprising, those facts cannot be refuted.
 
I've never heard anybody up against a budget say "I need to cut out food, clothing and shelter, but I refuse to look for a part-time job to supplement what we have coming in."

You want to supplement what is coming in with more revenue, then promote a policy that puts 24 million unemployed or underemployed Americans back to work paying full taxes
 
Jesus Christ seemed to think so

Please provide a quote from the Bible where Jesus said that government should tax people for the purpose of welfare programs?
 
I will never accept the statement that tax cuts are an expense to the govt. I posted the line item expenses of the govt. and tax cuts isn't there. Tax cuts give people more spendable income and that scares the hell out of liberals. It makes economic growth easier because of consumer spending which always happens when people have more spendable income. GDP growth means more tax revenue and more employees. Happens every time unless there are economic conditions that prevent it, i.e. recessions, 9/11, and the financial crisis.

I DON'T have a problem with tax cuts provided they are done in the right way. Currently, I don't think they're having the net redeeming value most would like to think they do. The prime example would be our current economic state and the unemployment numbers.

YES, we've had to spend alot of money in the last 2.5-3 years, but the reason(s) for that were made very clear - Corporate America created a financial mess they could not get themselves out of and WE, the taxpayers, bailed them out. It was because of their excessive greed that nearly brought our financial system to a complete halt! It was their wrecklessness that cost this country millions of jobs. Yet, what exactly is Corporate America doing now? Building their balance sheets and personal financial portfolios back up while everyone else waits...in unemployment lines.

Those who blindly support capitalism and the free market system, look at what your blind faith as brought us too? And no. I am not anti-business nor anti-rich. I do not begrudge what the wealthiest among us have achieved. I do, however, have a problem with the irresponsiblity of it all, as well as the lack of accountability. It's like many among the wealthy who caused this mess got their money from the Treasury and gave the rest of us the finger.
 
Please provide a quote from the Bible where Jesus said that government should tax people for the purpose of welfare programs?

Christianity is built on free will and not forced redistribution. Liberals always confuse that fact and believe Jesus would force people to give to someone else. Free will promotes people doing the right thing and the fact that there are consequences for failure.
 
Borrow and spend was the republican policy under bush*. Now that we have a dem president, borrow and spend is suddenly A Very Bad Thing

Did you miss the meaning of the 2010 election? Did you miss that there are many new members who were not there during the Bush Administration. It looks like the GOP has finally learned. When with the Democrats learn?
 
I have addressed every point you ever made even though most of them are biased, off based, and contrary to reality. Nice attempt however to derail this thread. I back up my posts with facts that are verifiable. Noticed you and every other liberal here running from the data. Not surprising, those facts cannot be refuted.

:lamo :lamo :lamo

If only you had. If only you had, mr. Pot. :coffeepap
 
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There someone found it for you... Puts your chart in perspective, no?

And the deficits in the 1980s and early 1990s would have been lower, had the Democrats not lied about providing spending cuts.
 
I DON'T have a problem with tax cuts provide they are done in the right way. Currently, I don't think they're having the net redeeming value most would like to think they do. The prime example would be our current economic state.

YES, we've had to spend alot of money in the last 2.5-3 years, but the reason(s) for that were made very clear - Corporate America created a financial mess they could not get themselves out of and WE, the taxpayers, bailed them out. It was because of their excessive greed that nearly brought our financial system to a complete halt! It was their wrecklessness that cost this country millions of jobs. Yet, what exactly is Corporate America doing now? Building their balance sheets and personal financial portfolios back up while everyone else waits...in unemployment lines.

Those who blindly support capitalism and the free market system, look at what your blind faith as brought us too? And no. I am not anti-business nor anti-rich. I do not begrudge what the wealthiest among us have achieved. I do, however, have a problem with the irresponsiblity of it all, as well as the lack of accountability. It's like many among the wealthy who caused this mess got their money from the Treasury and gave the rest of us the finger.

Our current economic condition has 24 million Americans unemployed or underemployed paying very little in taxes and that is hurting economic growth. Democrat Steve Wynn said it best in an article I believe yesterday

Steve Wynn trashes Obama - Jul. 19, 2011

More liberals should pay attention to what is really happening
 
Christianity is built on free will and not forced redistribution. Liberals always confuse that fact and believe Jesus would force people to give to someone else. Free will promotes people doing the right thing and the fact that there are consequences for failure.

No, christianity is built on sacrifice. Free will predates christianity. The core message of christianity is that Jesus died for our sins, IOW, he made the "ultimate sacrifice".

And saying that you'll go to hell if you don't sell your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor is not free will; it's coercion
 
No, Obama wasn't the one who ran up the debt. Obama just has to pay the interest on the republican debt.

LOL!

your lack of knowledge of recent and current events is astonishing

Senate follows House, passes Obama budget plan - CNN

Stimulus package en route to Obama's desk - CNN

live it, libs, love it, it's YOURS!

hey, did y'all see the budget obama SENT TO CONGRESS in february, the one that brazenly INCREASED borrowing 20%, completely divorced from political realities anywhere on THIS earth

that's the deal that died by 97 to 0

LOL!

party on, petrograd
 
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