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Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

The use of light bulbs is so complex that it can't be handled at a local level? It's of national importance? I think you're overstating the case./QUOTE]

Nearly 14% of all of the nation's energy goes to lighting. So no, I don't think we are overstating the case.

We could solve this by opening up the entire nation to oil drilling. We could streamline the process for starting fup new nuclear power plants. We do not need to regulate what goes into each house.
 
This could be an interesting discussion. Would you mind it I copy your post and respond in a new thread under Political Partisanship and Political Platforms or whatever it is called?
I would not consider permission to be required for that purpose, but in any case please be my guest.
 
We could solve this by opening up the entire nation to oil drilling. We could streamline the process for starting fup new nuclear power plants. We do not need to regulate what goes into each house.
Including the air? [cough, hack, gag]
 
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I would not consider permission to be required for that purpose, but in any case please be my guest.

I understand that I probably did not have to have permission, but I didn't want to post your words on another thread without your permission. I will have it posted in about 15 monutes as I have already typed my response. I will entitle the thread - Political Principles
 
We could solve this by opening up the entire nation to oil drilling. We could streamline the process for starting fup new nuclear power plants. We do not need to regulate what goes into each house.

Whenever the question is "Why don't they?" The answer usually is "Money"

Have you ANY idea how expensive your proposals are? Much much much cheaper to get people to use less energy
 
It's either Somalia or nothing?

So lt the government have its way with light bulbs, mattress inspectors, and no gardens in the front yard or its Somalia redux.

There is no reason to become hysterical over light bulbs.

I don't know about you but I can accept paying less for light bulbs, and having mattress inspectors as an alternative to living in Somalia. The Federal government has no laws that prevent gardens in the front yard.
 
Why do you continue to practice the Obamaism of hyperbolic liberal rhetoric? No one here wants America to become a Somalia which is not a dream state. You are just being ridiculous like the extreme leftwing President.

If Obama is far left as you claim, why do a majority of Americans support his proposal to eliminate the tax breaks for the rich, why do a majority support his American Jobs Act, and why does Obama have higher approval ratings than the Republicans in Congress?
 
If Obama is far left as you claim, why do a majority of Americans support his proposal to eliminate the tax breaks for the rich, why do a majority support his American Jobs Act, and why does Obama have higher approval ratings than the Republicans in Congress?

Many who make up the American public have bought into the President's lies.
 
Many who make up the American public have bought into the President's lies.

Where is the lie when Obama says we should eliminate the Bush tax cuts for the rich, and the majority of America agrees???
 
Where is the lie when Obama says we should eliminate the Bush tax cuts for the rich, and the majority of America agrees???
Apparently one of Chu's lightbulbs got stuck in your ear causing you to lose sight of the topic.


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Apparently one of Chu's lightbulbs got stuck in your ear causing you to lose sight of the topic.


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I was responding to a question, which is more than I can say for your off topic comment. So, I'll give you the opportunity to say something pertinent, why is it you want to spend more money for less light?
 
I was responding to a question, which is more than I can say for your off topic comment. So, I'll give you the opportunity to say something pertinent, why is it you want to spend more money for less light?

No you were not responding to a question. You responded to a statement with a question that was completely irrelevant and off topic.

We can easily see what was said and how you responded so lying about the facts, which are visible to everyone, will do you no good whatsoever.
 
Whenever the question is "Why don't they?" The answer usually is "Money"

Have you ANY idea how expensive your proposals are? Much much much cheaper to get people to use less energy
Some people live in fear and have a greater belief in scarcity. I have the money. I am not afraid of having plenty.

The reason things are expensive is government intervention. The one term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama is illegally preventing oil drilling by the US. Is that good for the nation? Is it good for you? Hiss policies are intentionally driving the price of energy higher, almost doubling the price of gasoline during his regime's three years. Is that good for the nation? Is it good for you? His regime has prevented drilling in Alaska, keeping much needed oil in the ground. Is that good for the nation? Is it good for you? His regime is preventing the Canadian pipeline from being built. Is this good for the nation? Is it good for you?

Eliminate the vastly expensive rules and regulations for licensing a nuclear power plant and the cost would drop to a fraction of what it costs today. Would doubling or tripling our electrical energy resources at lower costs be good for the nation? Would it be good for you?
 
If Obama is far left as you claim, why do a majority of Americans support his proposal to eliminate the tax breaks for the rich, why do a majority support his American Jobs Act, and why does Obama have higher approval ratings than the Republicans in Congress?
I cannot speak to why a majority do. Given that about half of the nation has its hands out looking for government to fill them it is no real surprise that a government promising to take more of one person's property to give to others has traction with the takers. If the percentage is 47% we can still turn this around. If it is 51% which has been reported recently on a local radio station, then we are doomed.

Buy arms and ammunition.
 
If the percentage is 47% we can still turn this around. If it is 51% which has been reported recently on a local radio station, then we are doomed.

So I ask again ask which Republicans are proposing huge tax hikes on half of the country? It's all Democrats' fault right? So obviously, the Republicans must have a program that will raise everybody's taxes and are keeping it a big secret.
 
Whenever the question is "Why don't they?" The answer usually is "Money"

Have you ANY idea how expensive your proposals are? Much much much cheaper to get people to use less energy

The problem is the viewpoint that people won't do this themselves if the arguement and benefit is made. There are people that will not see the benefit in a bulb that costs 5 times as much and puts out less light.

It shouldn't take all that long for bulb manufacturers to bring down the price and improve the light output. If you ban any competition you remove much of the reason for them to do this.

My wife bought led lights for the Christmas tree. They work just fine for that. When I'm working on something the old bulbs are far superior. Nobody is going to die because I still use them until an acceptable replacement is developed.
 
Historically, citizens have never had much luck fighting big corporations in court, that is why we created the EPA.
In other words if you don't do what we want you to we will create a powerful government bureaucracy that will slowly eat up your wealth and destroy you, the nation and (oops) us.

You have the heart of a tyrant.
 
The one term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama is illegally preventing oil drilling by the US. Is that good for the nation? Is it good for you? Hiss policies are intentionally driving the price of energy higher, almost doubling the price of gasoline during his regime's three years. Is that good for the nation? Is it good for you? His regime has prevented drilling in Alaska, keeping much needed oil in the ground. Is that good for the nation? Is it good for you? His regime is preventing the Canadian pipeline from being built. Is this good for the nation? Is it good for you?

We've been over the pipeline. The Governor of Nebraska wants it rerouted. States rights and all. You know, one of those things Conservatives are supposed to be all about? The Governor of Nebraska, I might add, is a Republican.
 
[...] Nobody is going to die because I still use them until an acceptable replacement is developed.
An acceptable replacement has already been developed. That you don't like it does not make it unacceptable.
 
Historically, citizens have never had much luck fighting big corporations in court, that is why we created the EPA.
In other words if you don't do what we want you to we will create a powerful government bureaucracy that will slowly eat up your wealth and destroy you, the nation and (oops) us.

You have the heart of a tyrant.
And here we have the right defending the tyrannical power of big corporations while insulting the little guy. GOP, baby!
 
An acceptable replacement has already been developed. That you don't like it does not make it unacceptable.

Indeed it does.
 
We've been over the pipeline. The Governor of Nebraska wants it rerouted. States rights and all. You know, one of those things Conservatives are supposed to be all about? The Governor of Nebraska, I might add, is a Republican.

I love half-truths...

Nebraska forged ahead with pipeline legislation even after the State Department's decision to put off giving TransCanada a permit for the Keystone XL line until 2013.​

And the half-truthers who tell them.
 
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