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Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

MC.no.spin said:
Scott Peterson jury did just that. It's not suspicion it is making a rational conclusion based on an investigation of the data available, having a strong conviction that has no reasonable doubt.
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Convicting someone based upon emotion is a sure way to wrongfully convict people. Just because Peterson's jury did so doesn't mean that it was right to do so.

MC.no.spin said:
Even if it was reasonable to think it may have been an accidental death, it is not reasonable to think George was the caregiver at the time. Finding her guilty of manslaughter of a child was a lay-up.
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Why isn't it reasonable to think that George was the caregiver at the time?

MC.no.spin said:
They could have said Caylee was abducted by aliens and some of you would buy it.
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Defending the juries decision does not mean that we believe that Casey is innocent. I for one know that murderous people do beat the system and are freed. Just as I know that there are innocents that get convicted and are sentenced to death. The system that we have isn't perfect. But its a damn sight better than the system that was in place before where even just a claim by some important person could get an innocent hung.
 
So technically since you can not have a double jeopardy she could literally write a book describing how she killed Caylee and she wouldn't get in trouble?
 
Kal'Stang said:
Convicting someone based upon emotion is a sure way to wrongfully convict people. Just because Peterson's jury did so doesn't mean that it was right to do so.



Why isn't it reasonable to think that George was the caregiver at the time?
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Because all the evidence pointed to Casey. Casey never implicated George in this until the trial. Watching the jail house videos of her talking to George, it is very clear that Casey is the one portraying that she last had Caylee of the family members. Of course her story at that time was that Caylee was with Zanny the nanny.... :roll:

The jury got to watch these too (and notice the "surprise, surprise" comment 2:15 - 2:25 by Casey after Cindy said people are coming up with a wild story of Caylee drowning in the pool (it blows up her defense):

YouTube - ‪New Jailhouse Video of Casey Anthony the Alleged Baby Killer: She's "Beyond Frustrated"‬‏

Kal'Stang said:
Defending the juries decision does not mean that we believe that Casey is innocent. I for one know that murderous people do beat the system and are freed. Just as I know that there are innocents that get convicted and are sentenced to death. The system that we have isn't perfect. But its a damn sight better than the system that was in place before where even just a claim by some important person could get an innocent hung.
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I agree the system is better than most. It failed here and that irritates me. I am pissed off a murdering sociopath is being set free. She will be wrecking more lives, guaranteed. Guaranteed. There is no cure for being a sociopath. They could have locked her up, but failed.
 
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MC.no.spin said:
Because all the evidence pointed to Casey. Casey never implicated George in this until the trial. Watching the jail house videos of her talking to George, it is very clear that Casey is the one portraying that she last had Caylee of the family members. Of course her story at that time was that Caylee was with Zanny the nanny.... :roll:

The jury got to watch these too (and notice the "surprise, surprise" comment 2:15 - 2:25 by Casey after Cindy said people are coming up with a wild story of Caylee drowning in the pool (it blows up her defense):

YouTube - ‪New Jailhouse Video of Casey Anthony the Alleged Baby Killer: She's "Beyond Frustrated"‬‏
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Did you post the wrong video? The video only goes to 2:00min so there is no 2:15-2:25. But that still doesn't show that she was the caregiver at the time.

MC.no.spin said:
I agree the system is better than most. It failed here and that irritates me. I am pissed off a murdering sociopath is being set free. She will be wrecking more lives, guaranteed. Guaranteed. There is no cure for being a sociopath. They could have locked her up, but failed.
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Depends on how you look at it as to whether it failed or not. From what I'm hearing the Prosecution did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey murdered Caylee. As such the jury did not convict. As such the sytem worked like it was designed to do. So the actual failure here wasn't in the system...but in the prosecutor. Now you may think that Casey is guilty beyond reasonable doubt and because of this you prolly think that the prosecutor did a good job. But it honestly doesn't matter what you think. It just mattered what those juror's in that court room think. They prolly saw something (or lack of something) which you did not see which led them to aquit.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Did you post the wrong video? The video only goes to 2:00min so there is no 2:15-2:25. But that still doesn't show that she was the caregiver at the time.
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YouTube - ‪P1 of 4 - Missing Jailhouse Video of Casey Anthony and her Parents, George & Cindy (Lost Jail Tapes)‬‏

The above is correct link.

Depends on how you look at it as to whether it failed or not. From what I'm hearing the Prosecution did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey murdered Caylee. As such the jury did not convict. As such the sytem worked like it was designed to do. So the actual failure here wasn't in the system...but in the prosecutor. Now you may think that Casey is guilty beyond reasonable doubt and because of this you prolly think that the prosecutor did a good job. But it honestly doesn't matter what you think. It just mattered what those juror's in that court room think. They prolly saw something (or lack of something) which you did not see which led them to aquit.
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I watched most of the trial. The jury had enough to convict, especially on the manslaughter charge. The jury failed to use common sense, put the pieces together and issue a just verdict. Epic Fail.
 
MC.no.spin said:
Scott Peterson jury did just that. It's not suspicion it is making a rational conclusion based on an investigation of the data available, having a strong conviction that has no reasonable doubt.

Even if it was reasonable to think it may have been an accidental death, it is not reasonable to think George was the caregiver at the time. Finding her guilty of manslaughter of a child was a lay-up.

They could have said Caylee was abducted by aliens and some of you would buy it.
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Why is that? The last day anybody except Casey and George saw Caylee was the day George claims Casey and Caylee left the house around 12pm. Under the accidental drowning suggestion it's reasonable to think that the child could have drowned that day and George is lying. He was proven to be a liar on stand multiple times.
 
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MC.no.spin said:
YouTube - ‪P1 of 4 - Missing Jailhouse Video of Casey Anthony and her Parents, George & Cindy (Lost Jail Tapes)‬‏

The above is correct link.



I watched most of the trial. The jury had enough to convict, especially on the manslaughter charge. The jury failed to use common sense, put the pieces together and issue a just verdict. Epic Fail.
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In your opinion. Obviously not in theirs. But at the end of the day, they DID acquit her. You can't change that, so why are you so angry over it? You seem so sure of everything you're saying, yet I see nothing to indicate you have any experience in those areas.
 
tessaesque said:
In your opinion. Obviously not in theirs. But at the end of the day, they DID acquit her. You can't change that, so why are you so angry over it? You seem so sure of everything you're saying, yet I see nothing to indicate you have any experience in those areas.
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I am 100% sure Casey is guilty. She is a sociopath who killed her kid and got away with it. She reminds me of other sociopaths I have known. They are the reason our world is full of suffering. They are the bankers, the lawyers, the politicians who only care about themselves. They are also bad mothers in some cases, like this one. They will kill you and throw you in a swamp for the flies to eat. Missing the opportunity to lock one up shows the jury did not recognize the monster before them.

This video is epic and makes me laugh though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EflikHDMpI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
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tessaesque said:
Why is that? The last day anybody except Casey and George saw Caylee was the day George claims Casey and Caylee left the house around 12pm. Under the accidental drowning suggestion it's reasonable to think that the child could have drowned that day and George is lying. He was proven to be a liar on stand multiple times.
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Why didn't Casey say that in the first place then? Watch the interviews and such after she is reported missing.
 
MC.no.spin said:
Why didn't Casey say that in the first place then? Watch the interviews and such after she is reported missing.
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Unlike you, I won't pretend to understand the psychology of anbody else. I do not have a degree or PhD in psychology or psychiatry. I try not to make huge illogical leaps without the expertise to back them up. :)
 
tessaesque said:
Unlike you, I won't pretend to understand the psychology of anbody else. I do not have a degree or PhD in psychology or psychiatry. I try not to make huge illogical leaps without the expertise to back them up. :)
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You are just like these jurors, unwilling to understand Casey is a sociopath. That does a disservice to the rest of us. The future victims of Casey could have been prevented.
 
Her name remains a secret. She’s known simply as juror number 12. And while she has a certificate from Florida’s 9th Circuit, embossed with calligraphy thanking her for her duty as a member of the Casey Anthony jury, her life since being released from that duty has been one of cat and mouse. A red-haired woman in her 60s who moved to Florida from Michigan, she told the court she worked at a Publix Grocery when she was questioned as a potential juror. Now, she’s in hiding. Juror number 12 left Florida. Her husband, fighting back tears, tells NBC News he’s not sure when she’ll return to her home in Florida. Why? He says she fears half of her co-workers want her head on a platter. The others may understand what she did, but she didn’t want to face them.She was due to retire in the fall, but Juror number 12, after being released from sequestration, chose to call her boss to announce she couldn’t come to work. She didn’t feel safe. She retired over the phone.

I bet that many jurors feel the same. And it's sad. All they did was their jobs, and they shouldn't have to fear for their lives. It sounds as if, already, their lives were uprooted for this trial. Now that it's over, they should be able to return to some sort of normalcy. After all, it wasn't them who caused Caylee's death. Furthermore, the evidence presented didn't fully convince me, either. Accusations concerning Casey's psychological condition have, so far, been mostly supposition. I do think it is likely that she is guilty, however. But I don't blame the jury for what has happened. I wouldn't be opposed to vigilantism against Casey, though.
 
tessaesque said:
Unlike you, I won't pretend to understand the psychology of anbody else. I do not have a degree or PhD in psychology or psychiatry. I try not to make huge illogical leaps without the expertise to back them up. :)
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-who-dont-learn-the-past-are-doomed-repeat-it

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ensic-psychology-can-help-humanize-evil-deeds

Here is your expert, saying what I have been throughout this thread. I just found it.
 
MC.no.spin said:
You are just like these jurors, unwilling to understand Casey is a sociopath. That does a disservice to the rest of us. The future victims of Casey could have been prevented.
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First of all, murder is not an indication of a sociopath. Your claim is ridiculous, unfounded, and indefensible. Second, I'm unwilling to classify her as having a mental disorder without the testimony of a mental health professional who has examined her, her history, and her family before making that determination. You are far to quick to make an assumption based on little to no experience. That is disturbing.
 
tessaesque said:
First of all, murder is not an indication of a sociopath. Your claim is ridiculous, unfounded, and indefensible. Second, I'm unwilling to classify her as having a mental disorder without the testimony of a mental health professional who has examined her, her history, and her family before making that determination. You are far to quick to make an assumption based on little to no experience. That is disturbing.
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What is disturbing are people who fail to grasp the simplicity of events presented in this case. Only a sociopath could have the cold heart necessary to have carried through with each step. The evidence of this condition is there, all the way back to middle school where her anti-social conduct was first becoming visible. The early interviews with her friends and family reveal such conduct.

http://investigation.discovery.com/...full_coverage/files/caylee_anthony_files.html
 
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tessaesque said:
One guy wrote two articles without ever having interviewed or examined Casey. I'm hardly convinced.
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The failure of the prosecution to have such forensic psychologists examine Casey and her history closely, and give their findings to the jury, is the biggest omission in this case. They were going after a death penalty, were over-confident in the forensic evidence, and failed to give the narrative sitting right before them. It's really a shame. Going after a death penalty, the prosecution did not want to put a label indicating mental illness on Casey. That would have elicited sympathy. But avoidance of the truth spelled defeat. They should not have sought the death penalty.
 
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I find it digusting the backlash these jurors are getting:(
 
I don't care about the jurors that much...but Casey Anthony should still get some justice dealt to her.
 
The Toast said:
I don't care about the jurors that much...but Casey Anthony should still get some justice dealt to her.
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A jury of her peers found her not guily:(
 
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