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Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

tessaesque said:
The baby went missing in June, the body was found in December. That's a total of 6 months. All I said was that the child had been dead a MINIMUM of two months before being found, because that's how long it takes an average body to decompose to the point of skeletal remains. The skull and tape were both OUTSIDE of the bags when found. The tape was not attached to any portion of the body, bags, or clothing. The only thing that directly linked the tape to the crime seen was a patch of hair (referred to during the trial as a "hair mat"). When tested, two DNA samples were recovered, one belonging to the lab tech who tested the strip and one belonging to an unknown 3rd party not related to the chain of evidence. Based on the condition of the bones it was ASSUMED that the tape had been placed on Caylee's face, but nobody could confirm that with any certainty.

As far as the jury not caring, or failing to return the "correct verdict"....I would suggest you read the evidence reports that were released and check out the trial transcripts. The evidence presented couldn't put Casey at the scene of the body dumping, couldn't provide a COD, couldn't provide a corroborated motive, couldn't prove premeditation, etc. Somebody said (and rightly so), "It's awfully weird that Casey spent 31 days hooking up and hanging out when her child was missing" and decided to try and build a case based on that observation. They failed. So now, all we have is strange behavior over 31 days and a skeleton. That's it. That is not enough for me to hand down a guilty verdict and possible death sentence.

Then again, it was brought to my attention that I'm a pragmatist, not an emotional responder.
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Im not an emotional responder either...Ive been involved with enough murder cases to know precisely how it works...but theres no purpose in continuing this :) she got away with murder....I just hope she doesnt profit like OJ didnt
 
it now seems to me that if no cause of death could be determined, legally...the jury may have made the correct call.

however, jury nullification sometimes has its place. i think this would have been one of those times.
 
lpast said:
Im not an emotional responder either...Ive been involved with enough murder cases to know precisely how it works...but theres no purpose in continuing this :) she got away with murder....I just hope she doesnt profit like OJ didnt
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Then show me a SINGLE piece of evidence that POSITIVELY linked her to the death of her daughter, and prove that her daughter was murdered and didn't die accidentally. A dead child does not a murder make.

What, you can't do that? I didn't think so. She didn't get away with murder.
 
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dontworrybehappy said:
Then show me a SINGLE piece of evidence that POSITIVELY linked her to the death of her daughter, and prove that her daughter was murdered and didn't die accidentally.

What, you can't do that? I didn't think so. She didn't get away with murder.
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She might have gotten away with murder, however the prosecution didn't prove that to the jury's satisfaction. So their not guilty of capital murder verdict was the correct one.
 
The Barbarian said:
I hate to break this to you, but high profile cases like this .. increases a lawyers stock by 10 fold when an innocent verdict comes back .. so yes while this case may not have made him much money, it will pay for itself many times over . .
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And what happens when they lose?

Winning isn't guranteed, though some may disagree

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Release date: July 13th. Casey will officially be a free woman next Wednesday.
 
Caine said:
So, arrange a deal for life in return for a plea.....
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That is very often what occurs in these cases. However, prosecutor's often refuse to accept LWOP pleas and would rather seek death. In LA there is a case in which the defendant offered to plead guilty for LWOP, the DA handling the case recommended it, the surviving family of the victims wanted the deal because they didn't want to have to go through the ordeal of a trial....but the Supervising DA in charge of the capital case unit refused to accept the plea, saying death was the only appropriate penalty. If you ask, 95% of capital defense lawyers would say that they would consider it a "victory" in securing an LWOP sentence in exchange for a plea.
 
The Barbarian said:
I hate to break this to you, but high profile cases like this .. increases a lawyers stock by 10 fold when an innocent verdict comes back .. so yes while this case may not have made him much money, it will pay for itself many times over . .
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You may be right in this particular case, but most capital cases aren't as "high profile" as this one. Most people who handle DP cases simply go about their regular business, regardless of the verdict and handle their next case. Their usually are not book deals, etc.
 
Mach said:
Actually, there is evidence of how she died, and why. Hell, you reject the evidence for evolution, not surprising there are issues with evidence in your estimation.

The chloroform, the car, the 31 days unreported, the partying, the tape/bag, the hair, the cover up, the diary.
It's evidence. All evidence points to Casey murdering her daughter. No evidence points any other way. It's plausible to fantasize that she got a boyfriend to do it and she was just an accomplice, or that her father accidentally did it and they are just covering up. But those have no far less evidence to support them. Hence, you go with the evidence.
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The medical examiner could not determine cause of death. All we got from the prosecution was theories. There was no proof how she died what the motive was or who did it. We also do not know if it was murder or an accident
 
ptif219 said:
The medical examiner could not determine cause of death. All we got from the prosecution was theories. There was no proof how she died what the motive was or who did it. We also do not know if it was murder or an accident
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oh, i think we do. people report accidental deaths. and we know her mother did not care one whit that caylee was dead, don't we?
 
liblady said:
oh, i think we do. people report accidental deaths. and we know her mother did not care one whit that caylee was dead, don't we?
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we don't "know" anything. and some people DO NOT report accidental deaths - they get scared and cover them up. for all you know, casey, while still being the sociopath she appears to be, got pissed one day and hit caylee and she died as a result of a hit not intended to kill her, so she covered it up. none of us "knows" anything.
 
liblady said:
oh, i think we do. people report accidental deaths. and we know her mother did not care one whit that caylee was dead, don't we?
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No, we don't. What we know is that Casey reacted abnormally after the disappearance of her daughter. From a psychological standpoint, self-destructive behavior is commonly linked to the grief process. That's why you see a some people drink more and party more after a bad break-up, while some people eat more and mope around listening to love songs and watching rom-coms. Both actions are self-defeated and rarely help get over a trauma, but they happen. We have no idea what was going through Casey's mind during those 31 days. We can pretend to assume based on our ideas of "normal" and how we might handle a similar situation...but we can't be sure.

I thought FOR SURE that my boyfriend's sister would break up with her boyfriend when he cheated on her for the third time. I thought it was absolutely ridiculous that she would stay with him and I knew if I were in her shoes I'd not only leave, but make his life miserable in the process. Instead, she stayed. And has convinced the guy to go to counselling with her. Just goes to show that my hypothetical reaction wasn't the same as her legitimate reaction. If we were all automatons we could know with certainty what Casey did or didn't do. But we aren't, so we can't.
 
ptif219 said:
No we don't. That is opinion not fact
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true. but i'll stick with my opinion. did you read the the jurors were sick about having to reach that verdict? not guilty does NOT mean innocent.
 
Here are some links of what is in the works

Casey Anthony lawsuit: Casey Anthony ordered to appear for questioning in civil lawsuit by Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez - OrlandoSentinel.com

But Anthony already has many bills to pay, including a $70,000 tax lien by the Internal Revenue Service from a $200,000 payment from ABC for rights to family videos. She also owes investigative and court costs associated with earlier check-fraud convictions.

Prosecutors on Wednesday filed a motion asking the court to tax Casey Anthony for "special costs" related to the case's investigation and prosecution.

The motion signed by Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick asks Chief Judge Belvin Perry to order that Casey Anthony "pay reimbursement for the special costs of investigation and prosecution."

State Rep. wants "Caylee's Law" in Florida | www.wokv.com


State Representative Bill Hayger from South Florida says Anthony should have faced more serious prison time for not reporting her 2-year-old daughter missing after a month.

"One of the reactions I had after the verdict is that under current law in Florida, it is not a violation of the law for a parent to fail to report a missing child who is obviously in danger," says Hayger.

So Hayger is crafting Caylee's Law.
 
theplaydrive said:
we don't "know" anything. and some people DO NOT report accidental deaths - they get scared and cover them up. for all you know, casey, while still being the sociopath she appears to be, got pissed one day and hit caylee and she died as a result of a hit not intended to kill her, so she covered it up. none of us "knows" anything.
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yes, and then they go out and party hard.
 
liblady said:
yes, and then they go out and party hard.
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If you look at the calendar created by police she went out exactly 5 times in 31 days. Hardly "partying hard" for a 22 year old.
 
ptif219 said:
Here are some links of what is in the works

Casey Anthony lawsuit: Casey Anthony ordered to appear for questioning in civil lawsuit by Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez - OrlandoSentinel.com

But Anthony already has many bills to pay, including a $70,000 tax lien by the Internal Revenue Service from a $200,000 payment from ABC for rights to family videos. She also owes investigative and court costs associated with earlier check-fraud convictions.

Prosecutors on Wednesday filed a motion asking the court to tax Casey Anthony for "special costs" related to the case's investigation and prosecution.

The motion signed by Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick asks Chief Judge Belvin Perry to order that Casey Anthony "pay reimbursement for the special costs of investigation and prosecution."

State Rep. wants "Caylee's Law" in Florida | www.wokv.com


State Representative Bill Hayger from South Florida says Anthony should have faced more serious prison time for not reporting her 2-year-old daughter missing after a month.

"One of the reactions I had after the verdict is that under current law in Florida, it is not a violation of the law for a parent to fail to report a missing child who is obviously in danger," says Hayger.

So Hayger is crafting Caylee's Law.
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Unconstitutional. The 5th Amend protects individuals from being forced to testify against themselves. If someone kills their child, their call to the police is evidence which the State can use against them. Therefore, they can not be compelled to report the crimes they have committed.
 
tessaesque said:
If you look at the calendar created by police she went out exactly 5 times in 31 days. Hardly "partying hard" for a 22 year old.
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It's amazing how those most certain of their conclusions are also the ones who get the most facts wrong.
 
I am still baffled by the number of people who are actually defending this sociopath.
 
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