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President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Before Obama was even elected president, the debt was already growing at a rate of about 1½ trillion a year.

I'd like to spend more time slapping you around as usual, but today is a holiday and I'm taking the rest of the day off. Have to prepare for family and friends who will be arriving shortly for BBQ and boating on the lake.

Have a great 4th everyone!
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Debt is cumulative and comes from the deficits, The only item in the budget which is part of that debt is debt service which went down in 2010 vs. 2008 due to lower interest rates because of the declining economy. Obama budgets are record budgets have have added record debt, no President in U.S. history has ever added 4 trillion to the debt in 3 years. That is the record that will be on the ballot in 2012
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Before Obama was even elected president, the debt was already growing at a rate of about 1½ trillion a year.

I'd like to spend more time slapping you around as usual, but today is a holiday and I'm taking the rest of the day off. Have to prepare for family and friends who will be arriving shortly for BBQ and boating on the lake.

Have a great 4th everyone!
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Do you ever think that you’re on a never ending merry go round and cant get off? :2wave:
 
donc said:
Do you ever think that you’re on a never ending merry go round and cant get off? :2wave:
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Please explain to me what affect debt growing each year had on the Obama budgets? You seem to think that the trend is irreversible because it is what it is. What prompted Obama to propose record budgets knowing what the revenue stream is? That seems to be something that no liberal wants to address?
 
Conservative said:
Did I hear you making that claim in 2008 when Democrats controlled the entire Congress, not just the House, and Geithner was head of the NY Fed? Where was your outrage then?

Nice partisan rhetoric that ignores reality. The debt ceiling when Bush was President was never equal to our annual GDP like it almost is now. Bush spent too much money with the help of Congress but somehow that justifies Obama putting Bush spending on steroids?
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Please name for me any Democrat who has said his primary goal was to insure the Republican would not be re-elected as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has done.
 
pbrauer said:
Please name for me any Democrat who has said his primary goal was to insure the Republican would not be re-elected as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has done.
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Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the entire Democrat Party. You have a very selective memory just like you ignore the results the Democrat Congress generated in 2008.
 
Conservative said:
Debt is cumulative and comes from the deficits, The only item in the budget which is part of that debt is debt service which went down in 2010 vs. 2008 due to lower interest rates because of the declining economy. Obama budgets are record budgets have have added record debt, no President in U.S. history has ever added 4 trillion to the debt in 3 years. That is the record that will be on the ballot in 2012
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Fiscal Year 2009 was Bush's budget, it had a 1 1/2 Trillion deficit.
 
Conservative said:
Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the entire Democrat Party. You have a very selective memory just like you ignore the results the Democrat Congress generated in 2008.
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Prove it. ..
 
pbrauer said:
Fiscal Year 2009 was Bush's budget, it had a 1 1/2 Trillion deficit.
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So what affect did the 800 billion Obama Stimlus passed in Feb. 2009, the 350 billion TARP fund left for Obama to spend, and the 100 billion Afghanistan supplemental passed in June 2009 have on fiscal year 2009 budget? You seem to ignore this and raise the same issue over and over again. Why?
 
pbrauer said:
Prove it. ..
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Why? The even did worse, calling Bush a liar and comparing him to Hitler. Obama will be a one term President because of his record. He had total control of the Congress for two years and generated the results that will be on the ballot in 2012. Those results not his rhetoric and smile will lead to his defeat. He should be a one term President.
 
Conservative said:
So what affect did the 800 billion Obama Stimlus passed in Feb. 2009, the 350 billion TARP fund left for Obama to spend, and the 100 billion Afghanistan supplemental passed in June 2009 have on fiscal year 2009 budget? You seem to ignore this and raise the same issue over and over again. Why?
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Approximately 1/3 of the stimulus was tax cuts implemented by reducing the withholding on paychecks. And as I've said before, your governor accepted billions so he could balance his budget.
 
Ockham said:
You're clear indication you do NOT want to discuss facts is evident, so I'll just bypass rest of your ignorant words. Your attempt to curve the spotlight off of Obama and onto Congress may work other places, but 400+ congress people are not playing golf 13 weekends in a row and are NOT taking vacation at Camp David.

I'd say "nice try" but it was actually a feeble try.:coffeepap
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If you want to discuss the FACTS, then lets discuss the fact that President Obama is WAY behind King George Bush I, King George Bush II and Ronald "Why can't I move the White House to California" Reagan.

The number of "vacation" days that President Obama has taken doesn't even come close to the President of the last 2 terms.
 
pbrauer said:
Approximately 1/3 of the stimulus was tax cuts implemented by reducing the withholding on paychecks. And as I've said before, your governor accepted billions so he could balance his budget.
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LOL, since liberals believe that tax cuts cause deficits then much of the stimlus caused deficits in 2009. you have been asked how much Obama contributed to the 2009 deficit and went silent, just like you ignored the many responses I have given you to the question of Perry taking Taxpayer money as if the taxpayers of TX don't deserve some of their money back to fund federally mandated programs such as expansion of Medicaid and unemployent insurance.
 
toddwv said:
Yeah but Bush didn't have two wars an economy that was in the ****ter...oh, wait...
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What do the two wars have to do with the Obama budgets? He ran on ending those wars and yet his defense budgets are higher than Bush's just like his deficits. As for the economy, looks to me like Obama liked Bush's numbers so much that he not only took them but added to them. 14.7 million unemployed compared to Bush's 12.6, 4 trillion in debt in 3 years to Bush's 5 in 8 years and Obama didn't have 9/11. Guess having a selective memory caused you to ignore the Obama record?
 
Conservative said:
Please explain to me what affect debt growing each year had on the Obama budgets? You seem to think that the trend is irreversible because it is what it is. What prompted Obama to propose record budgets knowing what the revenue stream is? That seems to be something that no liberal wants to address?
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Ad nauseam comes to mind when i look at one of your post.:2wave:
 
donc said:
Ad nauseam comes to mind when i look at one of your post.:2wave:
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Ignoring content comes to mind every time I read one of yours? You see, in your world the smile and rhetoric trumps results, history, and actual performance.
 
Conservative said:
So tell me what were the Democrats doing in 2008 with total control of the Congress? U-6 in December 2007 was 8.8%. so it went from 8.8% to 14.1% with Democrat control of Congress. Were they working hard to regain the WH and sabotaging the economy? What part did Geithner and Summers have in TARP?
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If you need help making a point, I suggest you look elsewhere.
 
Conservative said:
It is you that needs a civics lesson, Congress makes the laws that create the atmosphere that does control the economy. The President with his anti business agenda is doing his part as well to destroy the economy. He either doesn't understand the economy or has a masterplan to make this country into a liberal socialist utopia country that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. Cradle to grave coverage is the Obama goal.
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After hearing so many "conservatives" argue that "Congress doesn't create jobs", it's a nice change to hear a Conservative acknowledge that Congress does create jobs.
 
sangha said:
After hearing so many "conservatives" argue that "Congress doesn't create jobs", it's a nice change to hear a Conservative acknowledge that Congress does create jobs.
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Democrat Congress the last two years didn't create any jobs as evidenced by the increase in unemployment by 2.1 million and reduction in the labor force by 2.4 million. That is the Obama and Democrat Congress record that Obama supporters want to ignore
 
Conservative said:
Now isn't that wonderful? Tell that to the 14.7 million unemployed Americans that Obama is doing a great job. Percentage change means nothing because the base is different as were the economic conditions. Name for me on, Just one Republican President who had 14.7 million unemployed Americans two years after the end of a recession? You cannot do it, so play your silly games for attention.
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Posters have named a republican who had 14.7m unemployed. But keep asking. It's really making you look smart. Nothing is more persuasive than someone repeatedly asking a question that has already been answered
 
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