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Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

When I said, we will reelect Obama, I mean the country will, not liberals. You are correct that liberals do not choose our candidates, neither does the far-right. If we did we would not have the moderate Obama as president, we would have a liberal as president now.

It is the moderates predominately, and the left or right just tend to tip it in one direction or another. That is why we have moderates as President time after time, like both our candidates in 2008, and will again next year with Romney vs Obama. Moderates are not going for your far-right (secede from the Union) Perry, which is why he has had the good sense not even to enter the race.

Yep, keep thinking that pablum please.

j-mac
 
Students protected from cuts

The Appleton School District just saved more than $3 million on its health insurance plan simply by going out to bid for the first time in six years, according to the Appleton Post Crescent. And without a doubt, it was Gov. Scott Walker’s collective bargaining changes and state budget cuts that prompted the savings.

Another Wisconsin school district with large savings due to taking advantage of the changes offered in Act 10. If only Milwaukee school districts had not rushed through their contract, think how much money and teacher's jobs they could have saved.
 
Students protected from cuts



Another Wisconsin school district with large savings due to taking advantage of the changes offered in Act 10. If only Milwaukee school districts had not rushed through their contract, think how much money and teacher's jobs they could have saved.

Curious. This is an editoral, so it doesn't mean the facts are correct. But assuming they are, does success in one place equal overall success?
 
Curious. This is an editoral, so it doesn't mean the facts are correct. But assuming they are, does success in one place equal overall success?

A better question, Does failure in one place mean overall failure?

I think it's fairly obvious that it would be easy for MPS to save similar money if they had not rushed through the union contract - by swithing from WEA insurance and requiring teachers contributions to health insurance premium and pensions. We know that if the unions just agreed to one of those three (contributions to pensions) over 200 teaching jobs would be saved in MPS.

Walker gave the districts the tools to handle the budget cuts. Those places that are using the tools are saving boat loads of money and keeping class sizes the same or decreasing them. Those places that decided they wanted to protect the unions are suffering the consequences of those decisions. Short term it will be painful for them. Long term it will be good for them.
 
does success in one place equal overall success?

you're talking about freeing up school districts for the first time in years to go shopping around for coverage, thus allowing the collective school system to SAVE three million dollars?

ie, you have to ask?

weird
 
A better question, Does failure in one place mean overall failure?

I think it's fairly obvious that it would be easy for MPS to save similar money if they had not rushed through the union contract - by swithing from WEA insurance and requiring teachers contributions to health insurance premium and pensions. We know that if the unions just agreed to one of those three (contributions to pensions) over 200 teaching jobs would be saved in MPS.

Walker gave the districts the tools to handle the budget cuts. Those places that are using the tools are saving boat loads of money and keeping class sizes the same or decreasing them. Those places that decided they wanted to protect the unions are suffering the consequences of those decisions. Short term it will be painful for them. Long term it will be good for them.

The answer to both questions would be nice.

I would like to see a sound analysis, prefeable from someone without a dog in the fight. I'll see what I can find, and if you have something I would love to look at it.
 
The answer to both questions would be nice.

I would like to see a sound analysis, prefeable from someone without a dog in the fight. I'll see what I can find, and if you have something I would love to look at it.

Look no further then the MPS superintendent indicating that if the MPS teachers union just contributed 5.8% to their pensions many of the layoffs would not occur and the unions decision not to cooperate to save jobs of the cheaper, less senior teachers.
 
I would like to see a sound analysis

you need an analysis to see the advantages to a public school district of being allowed to shop around for health coverage, saving millions?

you need a study to show that requiring teachers to contribute more to their pensions and health care shores up district budgets which might otherwise be forced to pink slip teachers (like robert bobb in detroit)?

astonishing
 
Look no further then the MPS superintendent indicating that if the MPS teachers union just contributed 5.8% to their pensions many of the layoffs would not occur and the unions decision not to cooperate to save jobs of the cheaper, less senior teachers.

I hope you're smarter than the prof and don't think I'm speaking just about the pension. And I wouldn't take just the superintendent's indication as the gospel. That said, a quick search showed a lot demouncing the cuts. It will take a while to dog through them. As it is the internet, there is no doubt we can find something to suit any position. But I'll try and find something objective.
 
you need to search the internet to discover the effects of requiring teachers to contribute to their bennies?

LOL!

mister bobb doesn't google---he just rips up those contracts and pink slips the entire district while simultaneously auctioning off the middle schools to the highest private bidder

Personally I prefer Detroit's choice to Milwaukee's

you know, if it weren't for walker undoing collective bargaining in wisconsin, kaukauna and appleton would still be underwater and paying unnecessary millions of taxpayer dollars for employee coverage

good thinking
 
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you need to search the internet to discover the effects of requiring teachers to contribute to their bennies?

LOL!

mister bobb doesn't google---he just rips up those contracts and pink slips the entire district while simultaneously auctioning off the middle schools to the highest private bidder



you know, if it weren't for walker undoing collective bargaining in wisconsin, kaukauna and appleton would still be underwater and paying unnecessary millions of taxpayer dollars for employee coverage

good thinking

Go find how many districts are making cuts to teacher levels directly due to this bill and how many have actually saved money and aren't making those cuts.

As far as I know, and I follow it fairly closely, Milwakee is the only one that has had issues - because they rushed a contract agreement through. Most other districts are seeing signifcant savings due to the tools provided in Act10 and once Milwaukee is up for a new contract (2 years, I believe) they will see savings too and be able to hire back.
 
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