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Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

TBone said:
THANKS DANAHERA. THANK YOU THANK YOU.

Has congress presented legislation for the pres to sign? Nope, they cannot, so they blame Obama. When and where does it say he has to negotiate with the congress? Send some legislation and we can talk about who is not doing their job.

Congress stay in DC for the 4th of July. Ops they cannot, Exxon is sending them on Junkets.
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Paul Ryan submitted a budget, something the democrats didn't do for fiscal year 2011 and the budget couldn't get passed in the Democrat controlled Senate. The House are the adults in the conversation.
 
Conservative said:
Paul Ryan submitted a budget, something the democrats didn't do for fiscal year 2011 and the budget couldn't get passed in the Democrat controlled Senate. The House are the adults in the conversation.
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That was then. This month, they're the Mad Hatters.
 
Conservative said:
Paul Ryan submitted a budget, something the democrats didn't do for fiscal year 2011 and the budget couldn't get passed in the Democrat controlled Senate. The House are the adults in the conversation.
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Neither side are adults. This is not "My way or the highway" time. It is time for Congress to do their damn job. Right now, they are worse than welfare loafers.
 
BDBoop said:
That was then. This month, they're the Mad Hatters.
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The adults at the table are the House Republicans. Democrats want to cut the record budget 100 billion dollars and still deficit spend. Now if you want to go back to the 2008 Bush budget of 3 trillion dollars instead of the Obama 3.7 trillion and cut 100 billion from it then we can have a discussion.
 
danarhea said:
Neither side are adults. This is not "My way or the highway" time. It is time for Congress to do their damn job. Right now, they are worse than welfare loafers.
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The blame goes to the President. If a deal isn’t done, he will not be re-elected, guaranteed.
 
danarhea said:
Neither side are adults. This is not "My way or the highway" time. It is time for Congress to do their damn job. Right now, they are worse than welfare loafers.
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It is time for the President to lead and he doesn't have a clue how to lead. He delegates responsibility and no leader can do that. They can delegate authority but not responsibility for that is his. Where is the Obama budget? Where is the Obama list of cuts? Where is any serious discussion on the debt? Oh, he had campaign appearances in Pa which were more important. He is a campaigner in chief, not the leader required to be President of the United States.
 
Moderator's Warning:
The personal sniping will cease. Discuss the topic, not each other.
 
Another perspective.

Behind the Scenes of the Deficit Negotiations: $400B in Tax Hikes, $1T in Spending Cuts - Political Punch

During his press conference yesterday, President Obama took an aggressive tone, saying that his daughters were better than Congress in doing their homework before the last minute. But the officials rejected the idea that somehow President Obama’s tone is an issue.

“Every single day they’re banging the **** out of him (the president), Boehner and McConnell,” the official said, then they complain about the president’s tone. “I think it’s bull****, it’s all a ruse.”
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GPS_Flex said:
The blame goes to the President. If a deal isn’t done, he will not be re-elected, guaranteed.
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This is the Republican mantra. They are going to do everything they can to sabotage any possible deal, and sabotage America in the process too.
 
cpwill said:
Warren G Harding.

Calvin Coolidge.

Harry Truman.

Andrew Jackson.



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You overlooked a couple.
 
Amazed said:
This is an idea put forth by one of his Interns...let them run with it....ths pig F***r is running hteir Praty into the ground just like Bush did ours.
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Wow! I thought this was just the ramblings of some nut on a BB. The 14th itself qualifies that the debts are "authroized by law." Since Obama is not authroized to incur debt in the name of the US those debts would not be authorized by law.
 
danarhea said:
This is the Republican mantra. They are going to do everything they can to sabotage any possible deal, and sabotage America in the process too.
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Leadership doesn't allow a leader to delegate responsibility, a leader can delegate authority but not responsibility. The Results are Obama's and unless he is willing to go back to the 2008 budget of 3 trillion instead of taking 100 billion off his 3.7 trillion budget, there can be no compromise that is worthwhile.
 
It's a trial balloon.....and it ain't floatin.


RStringfield said:
Wow! I thought this was just the ramblings of some nut on a BB. The 14th itself qualifies that the debts are "authroized by law." Since Obama is not authroized to incur debt in the name of the US those debts would not be authorized by law.
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danarhea said:
This is the Republican mantra. They are going to do everything they can to sabotage any possible deal, and sabotage America in the process too.
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Wrong! The President and Democrats want to increase spending, raise taxes and make meaningless cuts that won’t solve anything.

You can scream that it is the Republican’s fault all you want but if the US begins to default on its debts, things are going to get Greece like here in the US and there is no chance in hell Obama gets re-elected.
 
danarhea said:
But it DOES require us to honor ALL debt that we have incurred. If Congress violates that provision, then the president has a good case to do it himself. Call it the Executive branch acting on a national emergency.
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He has no such case. The `14th CLEARLY says...

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

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This is argument is completely without merit and I doubt the courts would have much trouble with it.
 
What should we care? The congress doesn't care, so I can't be bothered, either.
 
BDBoop said:
What should we care? The congress doesn't care, so I can't be bothered, either.
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Is part of congress not caring, when Mitch McConnel took the liar n chief at his word and invited him up, only to be publicly snubed, and Obama fly off to Philly to campaign? Yeah ok...


J-mac
 
The Bamsters response..."It's not a conversation worth having."

One termer.

We're coming.



j-mac said:
Is part of congress not caring, when Mitch McConnel took the liar n chief at his word and invited him up, only to be publicly snubed, and Obama fly off to Philly to campaign? Yeah ok...


J-mac
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Ockham said:
Cool. Where are they mentioned in the Constitution ... I'd like to see it.
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Check Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 to see how the Constitution authorizes Cabinet departments. Final details are then left up to Congress and the President about what the actual departments will be.

For the Federal Reserve, look at the same clause that Alexander Hamilton used to defend the constitutionality of the Bank of the United States, and that is Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

What makes the Departments of Treasury, State, and Defense (previously War) constitutional?

If you believe the two departments you mentioned are unconstitutional, then all departments are unconstitutional. By that logic the United States has not followed the Constitution before even the Bill of Rights were added to it.
 
danarhea said:
But it DOES require us to honor ALL debt that we have incurred. If Congress violates that provision, then the president has a good case to do it himself. Call it the Executive branch acting on a national emergency.
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That's a bright idea, let the President over step his Constitutional boundaries to "deal with" an Emergency...

The HOUSE creates the budget, the Senate approves it, he signs it. The Senate and the WH have made it clear they won't sign anything that doesn't have deficit spending and tax hikes. The HOUSE has said "we won't do that".
 
Amazed said:
The Bamsters response..."It's not a conversation worth having."

One termer.

We're coming.
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Oh yeah, I know...Obama doesnt want to hear anything that he disagrees with. Even if that means he purposely is responsible for destroying this country. That just helps along his ultimate plan I think...


J-mac
 
MrVicchio said:
That's a bright idea, let the President over step his Constitutional boundaries to "deal with" an Emergency...

The HOUSE creates the budget, the Senate approves it, he signs it. The Senate and the WH have made it clear they won't sign anything that doesn't have deficit spending and tax hikes. The HOUSE has said "we won't do that".
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Now that I know how their stance will end up, I feel much better about them showing their collective ass.
 
MrVicchio said:
That's a bright idea, let the President over step his Constitutional boundaries to "deal with" an Emergency...

The HOUSE creates the budget, the Senate approves it, he signs it. The Senate and the WH have made it clear they won't sign anything that doesn't have deficit spending and tax hikes. The HOUSE has said "we won't do that".
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Then the House is breaking the law.
 
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