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Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

Zyphlin said:
EXACTLY.

The Republican "we don't want to raise the debt ceiling" is nothing but political posturing and strategy.

Simiarly, Barack Obama's "DO YOUR JOB" is the exact same thing.

Its not leadership, its not honest dialog, its not caring...its pure partisan politics and strategy in trying to paint the enemy as the ones causing issues to try and force pressure for your side to get more. Nothing more, nothing different, nothing new.

This will come down, similar to the budget debate, to the last moments and something rather unsatisfying to both sides will be passed. Nothing signiifcant either way is going to get done on this issue till 2012.
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I agree. Ultimately, my guess is that the deal will be something less than the $2.4 trillion figure initially sought to lift the debt ceiling, probably between $1 trillion-$2 trillion. There will be no tax hikes/tax policy changes (Republicans will claim that they honored their commitment not to raise taxes). There will be no significant changes to the mandatory spending programs (Democrats will argue that they protected those programs). There may be some "savings" from eliminating waste/increasing efficiency/utilizing technology (Republicans would argue that the process for reforming mandatory spending programs had started), however if the past is representative, those "savings" would likely be overestimated. A majority of actual cuts may involve discretionary spending programs. The more difficult changes will be expressed in terms of goals/targets for which policy details would need to be developed in the future (not a certainty, of course). In effect, a self-inflicted crisis would be averted, but the really big decisions would again have been postponed. As a result, at least IMO, the actual fiscal consolidation component would be short in credibility.
 
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Hate to break it to The Obama - Congress IS doing its job.
Much to His chagrin, Congress is not beholden to the whims and fancies of The Secular Messiah.
 
DashingAmerican said:
Why would they be moved by his words? It's, mostly, a bunch of hapless politicians not really doing their jobs, being told to be leaders by a president that lacks leadership.
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I'm not moved at all because he's the leader of the problem. He gets on TV and makes these little anecdotal stories about his daughters homework. I'd respect the man if he said this and for the past year or 6 months, has been rolling up his sleeves and doing everything possible to get this deficit issue fixed, compromise, whatever. Instead he's detached, critical, and is sitting on the sideline trying to position himself "above it all", which is BS.
 
GPS_Flex said:
Debt is good if those you borrow from have 100% certainty that you will repay it because you get an interest rate that is so low you can invest in infrastructure and get a great return on your money. That is the kind of debt Regan was talking about and yes, this kind of debt is good.

Today we are on the brink of losing our stellar credit rating because government spending is out of control and entitlement program expenditures are out of control. When the debt becomes such a high percentage of the GDP, it is no longer a good thing.

It is like water. Water is good unless you get too much of it all at once and can no longer control it.
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So what you are saying is debt is good as long as the money is going to programs you like. It is bad when it is going to programs you don't like. You can't have it both ways. So it was alright that Reagan Bush and Bush built up so much debt that Obama who i do not defend has no money to spend then you bitch at him when he raise the debt. Hmmmm go figure. I guess what it amounts to is debt is good if the Republican conservatives do it but not for anyone else. hehehehehehe you're funny.
 
Prof. Peabody said:
Please Liberals tell the American Taxpayer you need more tax money while the Government literally burns hundreds of Billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse. Tell 'em of how you can't stop the fraud and it's easier to just charge US MORE tax instead of stopping the folks ripping us off.
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Are you trying to say that The Republicans never added to the debt? Think back. LOL do you hire out as a stand up.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
In my opinion, this is really just the start of the Obama/Biden 2012 campaign.
Expect more of this tough guy talk and appeals to emotion, until he's reelected.
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Many Presidents have done the same thing. So is it worse when Obama does it or is it just like any of the others who have said very similar things. The people by their votes should be saying to congress do your job or good bye. For two years the Republicans were the just say no to everything party at the cost of a nation. That was a good thing? Please
 
PzKfW IVe said:
Hate to break it to The Obama - Congress IS doing its job.
Much to His chagrin, Congress is not beholden to the whims and fancies of The Secular Messiah.
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Their job is going on vacation on your wallet while the nation falls apart.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
Many Presidents have done the same thing. So is it worse when Obama does it or is it just like any of the others who have said very similar things. The people by their votes should be saying to congress do your job or good bye. For two years the Republicans were the just say no to everything party at the cost of a nation. That was a good thing? Please
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I just don't buy the campaign crap.
I hate the tough guy image and emotional clap trap, no matter who engages in it.

These stories with the image posturing are the honey potion of the plebiscite.

See you even buy the "the party of no" talking point, it's hilarious the crap people believe.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
For two years the Republicans were the just say no to everything party at the cost of a nation. That was a good thing? Please
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The only thing that may have saved the country was the GOP opposing The Obama's policies to the point where few, if any, were passed into law w/o significan revision - if at all.
 
It's impossible for this guy to act tough and be taken seriously.

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ReverendHellh0und said:
Funny, didn't Obama "choose" to keep tax breaks for the likes of GE and GM?
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And GWB's tax cuts for the rich.
Not only did He choose to keep them, He forced the Dems to extend them.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I just don't buy the campaign crap.
I hate the tough guy image and emotional clap trap, no matter who engages in it.

These stories with the image posturing are the honey potion of the plebiscite.

See you even buy the "the party of no" talking point, it's hilarious the crap people believe.
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the reason why Obama's lies and distortions work is because this country has far too many people who vote without having to really pay taxes and far too many people who suck on the public teat and think that others have a duty to supply the milk

this situation allows asses like Obama to often win elections while flushing America down the toilet

the dems need lots of dependent entitlement addicts so that party has done everything possible to create as many of those people as possible

and the GOP realizes there are so many addicts they have become cowardly and unable to cut the entitlement addiction off because there are too many addicts voting
 
TurtleDude said:
that's funny coming from the clown who has had what-29 FUND RAISERS in the last few months and is going to places like Africa when there is work to be done.

His demogaugery is at full throttle right now-his moronic rants about the "uber rich" (Ie anyone making more than 200K a year) still being able to afford a jet is just priceless.

This clown is a two bit assclown who was not ready to be president and apparently has learned very little while in office
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I think Halperin nailed it

The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Mark Halperin Calls Obama "A Dick"
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
In my opinion, this is really just the start of the Obama/Biden 2012 campaign.
Expect more of this tough guy talk and appeals to emotion, until he's reelected.
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I've already got my vomit bucket ready.
 
MrVicchio said:
So basically you're just here to tell us we're completely fubar, and mock anyone that you decide too for no other reason that you are "not on either side"
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Actually no, I'm not. I AM saying that many people seem to have reached a point were there are only two possible sources for any problem and thus two possible solutions. It's school yard politics. Gotcha politics. And it solves nothing and goes nowhere.

We are living in extremely complex times. The issues we face as citizens, states and nations have been decades and years in the making. I don't have solutions, but I know the solutions are not going to come from partisanship. Never happen. To look at an issue and say "There's only one solution, my party's solution", is myopic at best, especially when your party (Democrat or GOP) was very much involved in creating and perpetuating the issue at hand. I know, I know the standard answer to that is "Yeah, but ________ (pick the opposition, leader of party) did it _____________ (first or worse)." That takes back to the circle of blame and partnership and it all goes round and round. The only people who benefit are elected officials and the people and corporations that keep power players in office. Around and around it goes again.

People seem to have come to the belief that there is only one solution to all complex problems and that solution is whatever is the opposite to solution of the other party. That is idiocy. How about both parties are wrong? How about both parties are correct? How about solutions that don't belong to either party?
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I just don't buy the campaign crap.
I hate the tough guy image and emotional clap trap, no matter who engages in it.

These stories with the image posturing are the honey potion of the plebiscite.

See you even buy the "the party of no" talking point, it's hilarious the crap people believe.
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I guess if you didn't watch Congress in action over those two years you may not think they were the party of no. They could aptly be called the filibuster party as well. Tell me that they didn't filibuster more than any other Congress in memory. I thought you had a United States going on there. It seems like you have the right and left or the Republicans and Democrats but you have zero unity in your Congress. They are a global joke and not just one side. One politician is pretty much like the next. They talk a different talk until they hit the doors then they all turn out the same. Look at the jokes that are running for President this time sorry they are Republicans but on either side they would be laughed out of politics just 30 or 40 years ago. Yes your Congress is a do nothing just say no Congress. Not one of them. They are an insult to intelligence. I do not defend either side. They are all a joke and the electorate that continues to put them in office are the biggest joke of all. Talk about a nation wallowing at the shallow end of the gene pool.
 
PzKfW IVe said:
The only thing that may have saved the country was the GOP opposing The Obama's policies to the point where few, if any, were passed into law w/o significan revision - if at all.
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Oh stop with the silliness. The nation was in a mess when he came into office and don't lie and say it wasn't. He has not helped much if any but the economy is going to spin as it spins no matter who is in office at this point.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
I guess if you didn't watch Congress in action over those two years you may not think they were the party of no. They could aptly be called the filibuster party as well. Tell me that they didn't filibuster more than any other Congress in memory. I thought you had a United States going on there. It seems like you have the right and left or the Republicans and Democrats but you have zero unity in your Congress. They are a global joke and not just one side. One politician is pretty much like the next. They talk a different talk until they hit the doors then they all turn out the same. Look at the jokes that are running for President this time sorry they are Republicans but on either side they would be laughed out of politics just 30 or 40 years ago. Yes your Congress is a do nothing just say no Congress. Not one of them. They are an insult to intelligence. I do not defend either side. They are all a joke and the electorate that continues to put them in office are the biggest joke of all. Talk about a nation wallowing at the shallow end of the gene pool.
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Stop buying the liberal rhetoric and leftwing website information. What exactly did the GOP filibuster that would have made things better than they are today? Obama had overwhelming control of the Congress including a period of time with a filibuster proof Congress and generated the results we see today, 14.7 million unemployed Americans, a 3 million reduction in the labor force with growing population, less than 2% GDP growth and 4 trillion added to the debt. You conveniently blame Republicans when it was the Democrats that generated this record.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
Oh stop with the silliness. The nation was in a mess when he came into office and don't lie and say it wasn't. He has not helped much if any but the economy is going to spin as it spins no matter who is in office at this point.
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The Democrats controlled the legislative process from Jan 2007 to the end of the Bush term and had total control from 2009-2011 and the results today are worse than when they took office. That is reality that you want to ignore. Actual data confirms my statement and yet you divert from reality.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
Oh stop with the silliness. The nation was in a mess when he came into office and don't lie and say it wasn't. He has not helped much if any but the economy is going to spin as it spins no matter who is in office at this point.
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That doesn't really negate anything I said.
My point is that if The Obama had, to this point, been able to do everything He would like to do, we'd be worse off.
 
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