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Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

Then it's the intent of Cain bashers too. Liberals hate conservatives, but they especially hate black conservatives or women conservatives. If foodstamps or basketball can't be uttered together with Obama (He is a foodstamp president who plays basketball) then Cain and Don't like to read can't be uttered together without being called racist. (no proof Cain doesn't like to read)
I don't hate anybody. Politics isn't serious enough to hate anybody over. Stop making baseless generalizations.
 
Comments like these are why the Republican Party sucks so hard at getting minority votes.

I live in the deep south and lived in the midwest for the vast majority of my life. Racism is present, I have never denied this, but is not as prevalent as some of you are making it out to be. Those who are racist are vastly outnumbered by those that aren't. But at every turn, certain folks (like yourself apparently) like to attempt to tie racism to anyone who is Republican or conservative. The Republicans actually do more for minorities than the democrats do, but that's for a different discussion.

Bottom line, Cain did not call Stewart a racist. Stewart is a comedian who has people fooled into thinking he is a journalist (Those he has fooled fall in line left of center - imagine that!). The point here is that if a conservative had done a comedic skit about Obama and used an "Amos & Andy" voice to do so, he would have been blasted, and I would have been one of the ones blasting them for it. Instead, we don't have a single liberal stating anywhere in this thread (unless I missed it somewhere), that Stewart's schtick went too far. It's the same old double standard that we see from the left all the time, but we're used to it. Where is the NAACP on this?
 
I live in the deep south and lived in the midwest for the vast majority of my life. Racism is present, I have never denied this, but is not as prevalent as some of you are making it out to be. Those who are racist are vastly outnumbered by those that aren't. But at every turn, certain folks (like yourself apparently) like to attempt to tie racism to anyone who is Republican or conservative. The Republicans actually do more for minorities than the democrats do, but that's for a different discussion.
I've defended Republicans and the Tea Party against claims of racism on this very board, so you can step off your judgmental, ignorant soapbox. And it's also clear that in this thread those who are throwing out baseless claims of racism are Republicans and conservatives. As for your Republicans do more for minorities than Democrats - BS and I'm not interested in hearing it. And for the record, racism is quite prevalent and as long as conservatives continue to deny the validity of people's experiences with it, they will continue to fall short on the minority vote.

Bottom line, Cain did not call Stewart a racist. Stewart is a comedian who has people fooled into thinking he is a journalist (Those he has fooled fall in line left of center - imagine that!). The point here is that if a conservative had done a comedic skit about Obama and used an "Amos & Andy" voice to do so, he would have been blasted, and I would have been one of the ones blasting them for it. Instead, we don't have a single liberal stating anywhere in this thread (unless I missed it somewhere), that Stewart's schtick went too far. It's the same old double standard that we see from the left all the time, but we're used to it. Where is the NAACP on this?
I never said Cain called him a racist. It's conservatives on this board who are making that implication.

Moreover, that you think Stewart is "fooling" anyone into thinking he is a journalist shows you ignorance of Stewart, his audience and probably many liberals/Democrats. He is a comedian like Stephen Colbert who makes fun of politics. You would be hard pressed to find people who think he's a "journalist" so your comments are irrelevant at best.

Since you've made your ignorance of Stewart apparent, it's not surprising to me that you think liberals refusal to sate that Stewart went too far is a sign of hypocrisy. If you were more familiar with Stewart, you would realize the absurdity of suggesting that his impression was racist. By your logic, his impression of Russians is anti-Russian, his impression of women are sexist and so on. Although you make fun of those non-existent people who have been "fooled" into thinking he's a journalist, you've fooled yourself into thinking Stewart in anything more than a comedian who is an equal opportunity mocker of the political elite.

You are right about one thing, however. If a Republican had done the same impression, but for Obama, it would not have been as funny, but that's for one reason and one reason only: there aren't any Republicans equivalents to Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert so just as the impression would have received criticism if it had been done by Anderson Cooper, it would have received criticism if done to Obama by someone like Glenn Beck.
 
Moreover, that you think Stewart is "fooling" anyone into thinking he is a journalist shows you ignorance of Stewart, his audience and probably many liberals/Democrats. He is a comedian like Stephen Colbert who makes fun of politics. You would be hard pressed to find people who think he's a "journalist" so your comments are irrelevant at best.

Oopsie!

Online Poll: Jon Stewart Is America's Most Trusted Newsman

Since you've made your ignorance of Stewart apparent, it's not surprising to me that you think liberals refusal to sate that Stewart went too far is a sign of hypocrisy. If you were more familiar with Stewart, you would realize the absurdity of suggesting that his impression was racist. By your logic, his impression of Russians is anti-Russian, his impression of women are sexist and so on. Although you make fun of those non-existent people who have been "fooled" into thinking he's a journalist, you've fooled yourself into thinking Stewart in anything more than a comedian who is an equal opportunity mocker of the political elite.

You are right about one thing, however. If a Republican had done the same impression, but for Obama, it would not have been as funny, but that's for one reason and one reason only: there aren't any Republicans equivalents to Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert so just as the impression would have received criticism if it had been done by Anderson Cooper, it would have received criticism if done to Obama by someone like Glenn Beck.

Yawn... I am very familiar with Jon Stewart. The point I made went over your head, obviously. :roll:
 
Wow. An unscientific online poll. Problem#1. Here's another problem with your "proof". Trusting a comedian is not the same thing as thinking of him as a serious journalist. There is an unsubtle difference. He does, in fact, have to take actual news in order to make fun of it.

Yawn... I am very familiar with Jon Stewart. The point I made went over your head, obviously. :roll:
Not over my head. It's just incredibly stupid. It's simple - you aren't as familiar with Jon Stewart as you think because you wouldn't have made any of the arguments that you made. Nothing about his impression was even remotely racist - it was pretty funny though.
 
Wow. An unscientific online poll. Problem#1. Here's another problem with your "proof". Trusting a comedian is not the same thing as thinking of him as a serious journalist. There is an unsubtle difference. He does, in fact, have to take actual news in order to make fun of it.


Not over my head. It's just incredibly stupid. It's simple - you aren't as familiar with Jon Stewart as you think because you wouldn't have made any of the arguments that you made. Nothing about his impression was even remotely racist - it was pretty funny though.

Can you show me where I said what he did was racist? Can you see how some would view it as racist? Can you see where the double standard applies (had a conservative done this they would have been blasted by the left)? You are reaching here to argue a point I did not make. I pointed out the hypocrisy and you want to argue about a red herring.
 
Can you show me where I said what he did was racist? Can you see how some would view it as racist? Can you see where the double standard applies (had a conservative done this they would have been blasted by the left)? You are reaching here to argue a point I did not make. I pointed out the hypocrisy and you want to argue about a red herring.

I never claimed that you think what he did was racist. I said that the idea that it's racist is ridiculous. Why would liberals come out and say that Stewart went to far when he clearly didn't go to far? And yes, I can see how some would consider it racist only as much as I can see how some would consider mocking any black person racist. Stewart mocks any politician, or really any person, who he thinks has said or done something stupid. And no, I cannot see the double standard because we're talking about Jon Stewart, a comedian, who does impressions of EVERYBODY including Obama.

If Anderson Cooper had done the impression, the reaction would be more negative because Cooper is a serious journalist so your claims that conservatives would be blasted is irrelevant because Cooper would have been blasted as well. Show me a prominent conservative satirist and I'll show you a conservative who can get away with it.
 
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What John Steward was not racist. Are people really that stupid to believe that he was racist because Fox ran clip after clip calling him racist?
Some people are just dumb.
 
I've said everything that needs to be said and now you look ridiculous for asking "who thinks Stewart's impression was racist", when you liked a post that said Stewart's claim was racist.

No, you're looking ridiculous by lieing on me.
 
I don't think Stewart thought he was being racist in that bit, but that is the problem that arises when libs label any disagreement with Obama as race based. Stewart is just a jack add comiedian that like most libs thinks he is smarter than anyone else in the room, and fancies himself a quasi political pundent until he gets busted saying something stupid, then he's just a comiedian again. What a putz....


J-mac
 
I don't think Stewart thought he was being racist in that bit, but that is the problem that arises when libs label any disagreement with Obama as race based. Stewart is just a jack add comiedian that like most libs thinks he is smarter than anyone else in the room, and fancies himself a quasi political pundent until he gets busted saying something stupid, then he's just a comiedian again. What a putz....

J-mac
Nope, he's a comedian who did the same thing to Cain as he does to everyone else. He didn't get "caught" unless by caught you mean doing the same thing every night at 11.
 
Nope, he's a comedian who did the same thing to Cain as he does to everyone else. He didn't get "caught" unless by caught you mean doing the same thing every night at 11.


Stewart is a joke. The "I'm a comiedian" thing is a dodge. And his targets are far more conservative than liberal purposely.

J-mac
 
Stewart is a joke. The "I'm a comiedian" thing is a dodge. And his targets are far more conservative than liberal purposely.

J-mac

Yea cuz he is a liberal and he shows it and he is a comedian. I guess conservatives and republicans are pretty easy to make fun of. But i give him this he does cirticize and does bits on liberals, Dems, and Obama quite a bit...
 
Let's face it most of the Hollyweird types are mindless partisan Liberals who talk a good game but never play by the rules.

Stewart is no different than the rest of the followers of Obama who are always plying follow the leader because that old inability to have independent original thoughts.

It's why every time we see an attack on Sarah Palin it's the same one we heard from another Liberal an hour ago and they are all distortions and lies, but never original. You would think they would at least change the wording but that would be too complicated.
 
The thing a lot of you all seem to be missing is this. The target of most of Stewart and Colbert's ire is not politicians, nor any political figures. It's the news media. Yes, it's mostly Fox, because Fox is basically a circus and should be treated that way. But mostly he's making fun of the news. Notice that he only tends to mock politicians for stuff they say... on the news! It's the portrayal that's lampooned, not the people. Stewart doesn't say "Sarah Palin is stupid." He says "Man, this big bus with the constitution on it is pretty absurd, don't you think?"

Jon Stewart doesn't really discuss policy that often. Sometimes he'll mock decisions that are silly. But he basically only pokes fun at someone when they do something stupid, as opposed to something he doesn't agree with. A well-enacted conservative move would escape his ire. A reasoned and well-researched piece on Fox would not draw his attention.

Sorry conservatives, you guys just happen to do more of the absolutely absurd things. The worst that democrats do is spend money in inefficient ways. Well, second worst. Sometimes the best named guy ever will show people pictures of his crotch. Republicans talk about building walls to keep Mexicans out. Which of those two do you think is funnier?
 
Let's face it most of the Hollyweird types are mindless partisan Liberals who talk a good game but never play by the rules.

Stewart is no different than the rest of the followers of Obama who are always plying follow the leader because that old inability to have independent original thoughts.

It's why every time we see an attack on Sarah Palin it's the same one we heard from another Liberal an hour ago and they are all distortions and lies, but never original. You would think they would at least change the wording but that would be too complicated.
You're theory would be valid if Stewart didn't make fun of liberals and Democrats including Obama on his show.
 
Let's face it most of the Hollyweird types are mindless partisan Liberals who talk a good game but never play by the rules.

Stewart is no different than the rest of the followers of Obama who are always plying follow the leader because that old inability to have independent original thoughts.

It's why every time we see an attack on Sarah Palin it's the same one we heard from another Liberal an hour ago and they are all distortions and lies, but never original. You would think they would at least change the wording but that would be too complicated.

Your assesment is of a two-side coin, flip the coin and behold...
 
I think Mr. Cain is being way too charitable to Stewart because there is no doubt as I see it that this was totally Racist........

I wouldn't call it racist, but I would definitely call Stewart a hypocrite.

I don't care about race based jokes: People are too sensitive these days and can't laugh at themselves. I hate political correctness. And since I feel that way, I would be a hypocrite to call Stewart a racist.

But Stewart IS a hypocrite of the first order, because his ilk always calls Repuiblicans racists and then he turns around and does the Al Jolson Black Face Slapstick.
 
I wouldn't call it racist, but I would definitely call Stewart a hypocrite.

I don't care about race based jokes: People are too sensitive these days and can't laugh at themselves. I hate political correctness. And since I feel that way, I would be a hypocrite to call Stewart a racist.

But Stewart IS a hypocrite of the first order, because his ilk always calls Repuiblicans racists and then he turns around and does the Al Jolson Black Face Slapstick.

He is not responsible for "his ilk". If you can find examples of him being a hypocrite, that is one thing, but he cannot be a hypocrite based on other people's actions.
 
He is not responsible for "his ilk". If you can find examples of him being a hypocrite, that is one thing, but he cannot be a hypocrite based on other people's actions.

Oh, he is such a lefty, I would bet he shares the same views about the Right that his friends on the Left do. I mean, come on.
 
Oh, he is such a lefty, I would bet he shares the same views about the Right that his friends on the Left do. I mean, come on.

Believe it or not, most people are not robots or clones, all with identical views. I know, it's shocking, but true!

Or do you share all the same views as beck, Limbaugh, Romney, Bachmann?
 
Believe it or not, most people are not robots or clones, all with identical views. I know, it's shocking, but true!

Or do you share all the same views as beck, Limbaugh, Romney, Bachmann?

If you mean their views about the Left, YES.
 
How do they differ in regards to how they view the Left? Some specificity please.

Beck things the left is all part of some grand conspiracy to destroy America.

Limbaugh thinks the left is kinda amusing but dangerous.

Romney thinks they are well meaning opposition and he agrees with them in many areas.

Bachmann thinks the left is all trying to turn the US gay.
 
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