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Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

liblady said:
what you are doing here is repeating, ad naseum, the same argument republicans have made for generations. repetition doesn't make it true. and personal insults certainly should be above moderators, especially since i was not responding to you.
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the phrase: "you can dish it out, but you can't take it" comes to mind :lamo

so, you gonna tell us how many degrees you have or not? ;)
 
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These days washington seems to be filled with white men who make black people uneasy, like Newt the slasher, Bill the waffler and Jesse the crank -- Helms, that is, not Jackson. But the scariest of all the hobgoblins may well be a fellow African American, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. In the four years since George Bush chose him to fill the "black seat" vacated by Thurgood Marshall, Thomas has emerged as the high court's most aggressive advocate of rolling back the gains Marshall fought so hard for. The maddening irony is that Thomas owes his seat to precisely the kind of racial preference he goes to such lengths to excoriate. And as long as he is on the court, no other black need apply: Thomas fills a quota of one.

Read more: UNCLE TOM JUSTICE - TIME
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'Bush's Blacks: Race Traitors?' -- Part One of Two
August 8, 2002

For over one hundred years, the African-American middle class has largely supported what I call "liberal integrationism," the organized attempt to assimilate into the U.S. mainstream to achieve a "color blind" society.

Through groups such as the NAACP, liberal integrationists have allied themselves usually with the Democratic Party, and have pursued reform strategies such as affirmative action and minority economic set-asides, that promoted capital formation and the long-term expansion of the middle class within the black community. This liberal approach to racial policy, however, has never been universally accepted within the black bourgeoisie as a class.
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The Free Press -- Independent News Media from Columbus, Ohio

The NAACP has become increasingly irrelevant in recent years, by refusing, for example, to condemn overtly racist remarks by members of the New Black Panther party.

Now the organization can claim the additional distinction of being hypocritical. It has refused to address racially charged comments leveled at black Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas by liberal protesters last month.

The Daily Caller reports having sent the NAACP a video in which protesters of the Koch Brothers meeting in Palm Springs hurl vicious racial slurs and threats at Thomas. Among the comments are calls to “string up” the high court justice, to “send him back into the fields,” and to “cut off all his toes and feed them to him one-by-one.”

A request for a reaction by the NAACP was met with silence. The Caller indicates that it received an email from Hilary Shelton, a spokesman, which read:

Last summer, the NAACP passed a resolution calling for a civil political discourse. We continue to call on all Americans to abandon vitriolic language. It serves as a distraction from the real issues our society need to address and distorts the challenges we as Americans have to confront to make our nation greater still.
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The NAACP Has “No Comment” on Racist Remarks Leveled at Clarence Thomas « The Greenroom
 
OscarB63 said:
see the edit. all you proved is that you will believe any BS study if it agrees with your position


and I notice you failed to answer the question. miss elite well educated libby, how many degrees do YOU have?
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so, pew is bull****?

CNN.com - Elections 2006

my income and education are none of your business and have nothing to do with me proving you wrong and you running like a 6 legged rabbit. you are one of the few people who tend to spew all your (questionable) personal details all over this forum.
 
liblady said:
my income and education are none of your business..
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income, certainly that is none of our business. but education? Well, when you claim to be part of a group that you also claim is inherently smarter than another, you really should prove it.
 
Councilman said:
If a Conservative were to do this about a Liberal Black Candidate the scatology would hit the fan but quick.
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And if a conservative were to do this about a liberal black candidate and the "scatology" hit the fan you'd be seeing a crap ton of conservatives whining and crying and whinging about "playing the race card".

Instead, Republicans get to engage in the scatology this time while ignoring their previous whining and bitching about the "race card"
 
Your Star said:
I think the irrational people are just louder then the rational people, and the MSM helps with this illusion because all they could care about is playing the most scandalous, outrageous stories that irrational people flock too. Rational opinions, and thoughts from both sides don't get good ratings.
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i do not disagree.
 
OscarB63 said:
they tend to be a bit possessive about their hypocrisy ;)
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Really? Then they're really going to get upset at a bunch of conservatives whining and bitching and crying while reaching for their race cards to toss into the fray. I'm guessing such possessive people don't take kindly to others honing in on their hypocrisy.
 
Whovian said:
income, certainly that is none of our business. but education? Well, when you claim to be part of a group that you also claim is inherently smarter than another, you really should prove it.
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um.......i believe i said better educated. oh, and more wealthy. should i also post stats about conservative states? they trend poorer and less educated, in case you weren't aware. that certainly does not mean one republican is less educated than one liberal, but on the whole, well, you get the point.

i could say anything , as oscar and others do, so what's the point? my sources, (and there are many more) are my proof. personally, i have not claimed to be better educated than anyone here, that i recall. are you as proficient at avoidance as oscar?
 
liblady said:
so, pew is bull****?
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a sampling of 2,000 to represent 300,000,000 is what is bull****.


my income and education are none of your business
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IOW, you know I, a republican, am better educated and make more money than you, a liberal. ;).

you are one of the few people who tend to spew all your (questionable) personal details all over this forum.
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oh, boohoo.... wasn't it you, just a few posts ago crying about personal attacks? and yet when your back is up against the wall, what do you resort to? surprise, surprise.... a personal attack. too ****in funny
 
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Zyphlin said:
Contrary to popular belief something can be both of those at the same time.
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True, should have clarified. But what Stewart said wasn't racist, Cain's race had nothing to do with the bit.
 
OscarB63 said:
obama and watermelon = racist due to the stereotype that blacks like watermelon

is it not then homophobic to have a picture of Bill Clinton on a $3 bill? or have you never heard the phrase "as queer as a 3 dollar bill"?
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Wait, are there some kind of rumors that Bill Clinton is gay that I don't know about?

Wouldn't it be more accurate to put like...Barney Frank's or Larry Craig's picture on it?
 
Hugh_Akston said:
Anyone who is not a liberal who points out that the left plays the race card constantly is "playing the race card"?
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No, people who immedietely jump up and claim "He's making fun of him cause he's black, he's RACIST!" when a liberal makes fun of a black Republican candidate is "playing the race card" is playing the race card. Then turning around and going .... "WELL UM! THE LEFT WOULD DO IT!" is essentially excusing their playing of the race card by whining and bitching about the fact that the left plays the race card and that somehow justifies it.
 
OscarB63 said:
yeah buddy. I'm sure their sampling of 2000 people is representative of a population of over 300 million.

and just how many degrees do you have? and how much money do you make? ;)
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Perhaps when you can discuss scientific studies on a reasonable and informed level then you can start throwing out insults to peoples intelligence and level of schooling. Until such a point, how about you stick to the topic and points rather than ridiculous dismissals and dodges like this? What do you say?
 
Zyphlin said:
Perhaps when you can discuss scientific studies on a reasonable and informed level then you can start throwing out insults to peoples intelligence and level of schooling. Until such a point, how about you stick to the topic and points rather than ridiculous dismissals and dodges like this? What do you say?
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perhaps when someone links a reasonable and informed study, I will.
 
OscarB63 said:
a sampling of 2,000 to represent 300,000,000 is what is bull****.




IOW, you know I, a republican, am better educated and make more money than you, a liberal. ;).



oh, boohoo.... wasn't it you, just a few posts ago crying about personal attacks? and yet when your back is up against the wall, what do you resort to? surprise, surprise.... a personal attack. too ****in funny
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that's cool, oscar, too bad money and education don't change crass to class.
 
liblady said:
um.......i believe i said better educated. oh, and more wealthy. should i also post stats about conservative states? they trend poorer and less educated, in case you weren't aware. that certainly does not mean one republican is less educated than one liberal, but on the whole, well, you get the point.

i could say anything , as oscar and others do, so what's the point? my sources, (and there are many more) are my proof. personally, i have not claimed to be better educated than anyone here, that i recall. are you as proficient at avoidance as oscar?
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Makers and Takers
Peter Schweizer, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, delineates the thesis of his fine study in his title: Makers and Takers: Why Conservatives Work Harder, Feel Happier, Have Closer Families, Take Fewer Drugs, Give More Generously, Value Honesty More, Are Less Materialistic and Envious, Whine Less . . . and Even Hug Their Children More than Liberals
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The allure of liberalism is easily explained: it enables one to occupy a moral high ground, to feel good about oneself, simply by demanding the government care for everyone. “Today’s liberalism is completely wrapped up with the notion of itself. The legacy of the sixties’ ‘if it feels good do it’ ethos is alive and well” (p. 31). One study of students in elite universities revealed that “those who were very liberal or radical tended to have a ‘narcissistic pathology,’ which included ‘grandiosity, envy, a lack of empathy, illusion of personal perfection, and a sense of entitlement’” (p. 41)
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When asked if “parents should sacrifice their own well-being for those of their children, those on the left were nearly twice as likely to say ‘no’ (28 percent to 15 percent) when compared to conservatives’” (p. 34). Echoing one of their paladins, Hillary Clinton, liberals insist child-rearing is a societal, not a parental endeavor. “Supporting government programs to ‘help the children’ is a convenient way for liberals to ‘love’ children without demanding anything of themselves’” (p. 40).
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Liberals do less good, quite frankly, because they are “more envious and less hardworking than conservatives” (p. 81). They routinely denounce the “greed” and “consumption” of conservatives, but in fact they (like Bill and Hillary Clinton) take advantage of every opportunity and institutional perk open to them in a capitalist culture. “Time after time, reputable surveys show that liberals are more interested in money, think about it more often, and value it more highly than conservatives” (p. 87). But whereas 80 percent of Republicans believe hard work and perseverance enable one to succeed, only “14 percent” of the Democrats surveyed thought “that people can get ahead by working hard” (p. 93).
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The mirage of liberal intelligence is magnified by their dominance in universities and media outlets, but “authoritative studies show that conservatives are actually better informed, more knowledgeable, and better educated than liberals” (p. 162)
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you should read this book.
 
liblady said:
that's cool, oscar, too bad money and education don't change crass to class.
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and yet again, all you have is a personal attack :shrug:
 
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