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yawn.............
Yup, you have seen that you have been beaten, so you resort to this^.
Thanx for playing.
yawn.............
Nonsense. One cannot create rights, one can merely respect rights.
I agree but this becomes semantics. the 44 states that do not allow gay marriage is argued to be a violation of rights, which I largely agree is a loss of rights. but based on your semantic definition, it isn't.
Unless your really old it's gonna happen in your lifetime. I'd say within this decade.
that's great.
someone can yell & scream all they like about this right and that right, but unless society recognizes such a right, its meaningless.
lol, two things: First, I am really old. :mrgreen: Second, it won't happen as long as there is a 5-4 conservative majority on SCOTUS.
lol, two things: First, I am really old. :mrgreen: Second, it won't happen as long as there is a 5-4 conservative majority on SCOTUS.
Well... if this is what you prefer American...
Religions are more than welcome to and can legally discriminate against, same-sex marriages. At least according to NY State law.
the biggest effects will be on:
1 employers. If they provide any spousal coverage, they will be forced to offer coverage to gay spouses - even if it violates their individual views on the issue.
2 social security - the costs will certainly increase from opening up benefit sharing.
I really think #1 should be handled legislatively granting private sector employers the freedom to discriminate.
I really think #1 should be handled legislatively granting private sector employers the freedom to discriminate.
Yup, you have seen that you have been beaten, so you resort to this^.
Thanx for playing.
what happens if all the employers in a state decide they don't want to hire Jews?
are Jews supposed to just die?
this is insane and goes against everything american.
lol. is this a serious question?
its an honest question.
if you believe that employers have the right to discriminate, what is an ethnicity or racial group supposed to do if all the employers in a state decide to not hire anyone from that group?
Hence me laughing at this absurdity.
many companies in NY used to have a "no-Jew" policy.
do you think that is just, right, and fair?
many is way way different thing then all.
I think it is stupid.
yet as a whole, they did rather well for themselves in the states long before we
I am saddened when I hear Libertarianism defend the right to discriminate against people based on something they have no choice over, rather then defending those who are suffering the discrimination.
So I just watched this movie. It is on Netflix for streaming if anyone is curious. It didn't show me anything new though. I think everything presented in that documentary, everyone has already seen / heard of. Or at least things similar to it. The little cartoon about facts about gay people, I am sure people have heard before. The rest is just stories of people who have a gay family member. Not to say this movie didn't make me close to tears at points, I just don't think I would spend another hour and a half of my life to rewatch it or suggest anyone watch it, if they have heard ANYTHING about the gay rights movement. It also does not really address people quoting scripture other than saying, "I read it differently". Don't be a literalist.
That being said, I am in support of gay marriage and am thrilled to hear the NY passed this bill.
What is next, a new twist on puppy love? Oh wait there was the guy in Washington State who was caught doing a horse little more than a year ago.
Is that coming to a court near you?
We do have NABLA out there wanting to have sex with kids.
The Governor said he'll sign it now so that's a done deal.
After New York Vote, Bachmann Suggests Constitutional Amendment Against Gay Marriage - FoxNews.com
Michelle Bachmann wants to leave gay-marriage to each individual state....and yet she also wants a Constitutional Amendment banning gay marrriage.
Now that's what I call, a flip-flop.