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O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

Hence jury nullification. "Screw you white society! We ain't gonna convict no black fella jes cuz he cut up two white folk."
It is allowed. It is not always just.

Okay, the score is 59687-1. Do you get why they cheered? I don't disagree that justice may not have been their motivation, but rather revenge. I get why they would want revenge, though. It's not nice, but it's human and completely understandable. This does not prove that all black people are racists who just want to kill whitey, which is really the point behind bellyaching about the OJ verdict and the reaction.

It always appeared to be a miscarriage of justice. It's not the first, last or most important. It was just one of the first that went a black man's way.
 
And republicans wonder why they are labeled as racists.
One cannot speak the truth? A majority black jury decided a famous black man was not going to be convicted of murdering two white folk. And that was that. Jury nullification. Why is this so difficult to accept?
 
Okay, the score is 59687-1. Do you get why they cheered? I don't disagree that justice may not have been their motivation, but rather revenge. I get why they would want revenge, though. It's not nice, but it's human and completely understandable.
Therefore the jury let the murderer go free. Jury nullification. Simple. Not illegal.

This does not prove that all black people are racists who just want to kill whitey, which is really the point behind bellyaching about the OJ verdict and the reaction.
Well, no. Most black people prefer to assault, rape, maim, and murder other blacks.

It always appeared to be a miscarriage of justice. It's not the first, last or most important. It was just one of the first that went a black man's way.
Don't know. Can't say. It would have been better for jury nullification to prevent an injustice rather than to perpetrate one.
 
The OJ simpson trial proved that money can buy a trial and that Criminal Defense is mostly a big created BS story. You cant really blame blacks for feeling how they did about the simpson trial, theyve watched lots and lots of bigshot whiteboys beat the wheel with expensive sleazy lawyers
 
And republicans wonder why they are labeled as racists.

No-we realize its a common ploy from the left to call anyone who doesn't buy into the real racism the left practices (ie enabling social pathologies and making excuses for some blacks who don't succeed without watered down standards) "racist"

the left uses the term so much it has lost its meaning and much of the racism today comes from "minorities"
 
And republicans wonder why they are labeled as racists.

This was a real dumb thing to say. This thread denotes nothing about racism and even less about Republicans.
 
One cannot speak the truth? A majority black jury decided a famous black man was not going to be convicted of murdering two white folk. And that was that. Jury nullification. Why is this so difficult to accept?

Jury decisions are not decided by a majority of jurors. They were unanimous in their decision. They have to be or they are a hung jury.

I remember being shocked at the verdict. The 'spread your fingers out in the base of the glove so that you can't pull it onto your hand' demonstration was pure foolery. Anyone with a modicum of spacial skills could see that it was big enough for his hand.

But, I wasn't there. It's not the same as watching it on TV.

This 'confession' to Oprah story has not surfaced in any of the mainstream media outlets. There must be a reason for that.
 
This was a real dumb thing to say. This thread denotes nothing about racism and even less about Republicans.

It wasn't a dumb thing to say. I reviewed all the comments that were said in this thread. And some of the most racial comments were said from conservatives from southern states. You cry and moan about the injustice of the OJ trial okay fine. But how loud would that cry be if Nicole was black? OJ was guilty no doubt about it, but don't sit here and preach about injustice when deep in your heart you are really upset about a black man getting away with murdering a "precious white woman". Where was that same anger when those cops beat the hell out of Rodney King on camera and all got acquitted by a all white jury. Not a peep from the white community. And I can go down through history. Medgar Evers was slain right in front of his house by Byron De La Beckwith and guess what he was found innocent and white community celebrated. Emmitt Till was another. The list can go on and on.

So please spare me the fake injustice cry. People only care about justice when it is in favor of them.
 
Too bad he can't be held and executed for it.

I would like to thow this in faces of the jury that allowed him to walk because he is black.

It was LA. They would have destroyed the city, again. The judge knew it, the jury knew it. He was very guilty, and the blood evidence cynched it. Didn't need the too small glove, or the incompetent handling of the blood. His blood was in all the places, and theirs in his. Ron Goldman's blood was in his car for crissake.
 
if you're referring to me...the only time i've ever voted, it was for a democrat. bill clinton.
so try again.


Um it says you lean Independent, so no I'm not talking about you. I was referring to some comments that were said about black people in this thread by southern conservatives.
 
It was LA. They would have destroyed the city, again. The judge knew it, the jury knew it. He was very guilty, and the blood evidence cynched it. Didn't need the too small glove, or the incompetent handling of the blood. His blood was in all the places, and theirs in his. Ron Goldman's blood was in his car for crissake.

That's an interesting take ... so OJ got away with murder out of fear his conviction would have caused riots by the black community. So all any ethnic, religious or interest group needs to do then to get their way in this country, is to threaten mass destruction to get anything they want. I didn't realize it was so easy to manipulate our system and way of life. I'm wondering why activists haven't used this method (if true) to overturn cities, take over areas of land or to manipulate our justice system more often, as it sounds rather easy to do.
 
Um it says you lean Independent, so no I'm not talking about you. I was referring to some comments that were said about black people in this thread by southern conservatives.

Is that because southern conservatives are primarily racists?
 
One cannot speak the truth? A majority black jury decided a famous black man was not going to be convicted of murdering two white folk. And that was that. Jury nullification. Why is this so difficult to accept?

So did you feel the same about the Rodney King trial? Or he clearly deserve it because he is black.
 
Is that because southern conservatives are primarily racists?

I would say it is extremely rare that they have anything positive to say about minorities. And please prove me wrong.
 
Even if the NE made all this up and this Oprah interview never takes place... don't we all STILL know he did it? I mean - are there still detractors out there?

O.J. was the most famous guilty person that the LAPD ever framed. If the LAPD hadn't tried to alter the evidence and had just presented the case with the evidence it had, they probably would have convicted him. Unfortunately, the LAPD tried to fill holes in its case by manufacturing evidence...and as a result, created reasonable doubt through their efforts.
 
It was LA. They would have destroyed the city, again. The judge knew it, the jury knew it. He was very guilty, and the blood evidence cynched it. Didn't need the too small glove, or the incompetent handling of the blood. His blood was in all the places, and theirs in his. Ron Goldman's blood was in his car for crissake.

You mean the "blood evidence" with the preservative in it, that LAPD smeared on evidence without realizing that the preservative in the blood would show that OJ was not the person who put it there?

Don't get me wrong....OJ was guilty....but the Simpson case is a classic example of police action at its worst and what can happen as a result. OJ wasn't acquitted because of fears of a riot....he was acquitted because the LAPD created reasonable doubt.
 
Um it says you lean Independent, so no I'm not talking about you. I was referring to some comments that were said about black people in this thread by southern conservatives.

then perhaps you should've used the quote function instead of making such an ignorant broadbrush generalization.
 
I would say it is extremely rare that they have anything positive to say about minorities. And please prove me wrong.

This isn't about proof, it's about your mentality. You seem to think all southern conservatives or a vast majority of them are racists. That puts things into perspective for me, when responding (or not) to you in the future. Any other thoughts generally about wide swaths of people or groups which you have an opinion on? Are all Jews dirty zionists for example? I'm just trying to gauge where you're heads at.
 
This isn't about proof, it's about your mentality. You seem to think all southern conservatives or a vast majority of them are racists. That puts things into perspective for me, when responding (or not) to you in the future. Any other thoughts generally about wide swaths of people or groups which you have an opinion on? Are all Jews dirty zionists for example? I'm just trying to gauge where you're heads at.


First of all, I didn't say that most white people are racist, I said that most conservative "southern" whites don't have a positive view about minorities. I not just pulling this out of my a$$ either. I spent half of my childhood in Canton MS and most of my family are from there. I'm currently living in Dallas, TX. I've seen it first hand as a black man. My father has and still do experience it. Hell my white friends in Texas (Yes white friends) told me where not to travel in Texas.

You criticize me but let me ask you something. Would you go the south central LA and visit. Clearly you would be okay because you don't think the vast majority of blacks and hispanics hate white people and are thugs there right?
 
First of all, I didn't say that most white people are racist, I said that most conservative "southern" whites don't have a positive view about minorities.
Define "don't have a positive view about minorities", because it leads a reader to believe your using the politically correct accusation of "racist".

I not just pulling this out of my a$$ either. I spent half of my childhood in Canton MS and most of my family are from there. I'm currently living in Dallas, TX. I've seen it first hand as a black man. My father has and still do experience it. Hell my white friends in Texas (Yes white friends) told me where not to travel in Texas.
Yes I'm sure you have, and so have I seen racism before - a white man living in the North Eastern U.S. There's a difference between your personal experiences and then extending your personal experiences to all southern conservatives, or ANY general group. Because you may have had a bad time of it, or have been personally affected by racism directed towards you does not give you the right to then lay a blanket generalization to first a racial group and then throw in a political group on top of it.


You criticize me but let me ask you something. Would you go the south central LA and visit. Clearly you would be okay because you don't think the vast majority of blacks and hispanics hate white people and are thugs there right?
I've been to South Central LA, in fact I was there during the riots. I would go there today if I had a purpose for going there - clearly SC LA is not a vacation paradise nor does it pawn itself off as a tourist / vacation spot. If I want to see urban decay, I have Camden NJ to visit. And no, I don't think any generalized group is bad, evil or racist. Individuals certainly can be some or all of those things. I don't think Jews are dirty penny pinchers, I don't think blacks and hispanics are thugs and I don't think southern conservatives are all racist, and I happen to be middle aged, did my share of traveling, and met some folks along the way. What you are describing is a sterotype - and don't get me wrong, there are people who fit the stereotype, but don't lump everyone into it. It make you sound ... well... racist.
 
If no other post confirmed your assessment, the below post most certainly does.





OJ wasn't found guilty simply because the evidence wasn't compelling enough to convict him - PERIOD. Had less to to do about with him being Black than it did about the evidence as presented in the case. While race did play a role, it wasn't the primary factor in acquitting him.

Sure, there were some Black people who cheered for him, but you have to understand the racial atmosphere that was prevalent in LA at the time. With all the local police cracking down on gang violence (and as we know most LA gang membership consists of Blacks and Hispanics), and the subsequent racial profiling that ensued - some of it unwarranted - it's no wonder many Blacks felt vindicated in some measure. However, if you watched the trail or read any of the books covering the matter, you'd know that as far as the trial was concerned, race wasn't the prominent issue of concern during the trial, but rather the evidence itself, or rather the lack thereof.

He could never be placed at the murder scene at the time of their deaths.

No murder weapon was ever found.

The DNA evidence was inconclusive.

The blood splatter patterns under expert testimony was rendered inconsistent with how blood normally splatters when people are murdered in the manner described by the prosecutors.

The physical evidence presented - the gloves - did not come close to fitting the alleged murderer.

The evidence was circumstantial, but not conclusive. As such, the jury rendered a not guilty verdict.

Again, I believed the man either did it or knew who did, but a jury of his peers hearing the testimony and reviewing the evidence thought otherwise. And for the record, I am BLACK!!! So, you can throw that absurd racial partiality crap out the window.
The glove bit was turned into a circus, and the glove didn't fit because of what it had been through, and because OJ hadn't taken his arthritis meds. Tell us what was inconclusive about the DNA. Goldman's blood and DNA were all over everything.
 
That's an interesting take ... so OJ got away with murder out of fear his conviction would have caused riots by the black community. So all any ethnic, religious or interest group needs to do then to get their way in this country, is to threaten mass destruction to get anything they want. I didn't realize it was so easy to manipulate our system and way of life. I'm wondering why activists haven't used this method (if true) to overturn cities, take over areas of land or to manipulate our justice system more often, as it sounds rather easy to do.

Just LA, and I thought because of the Rodney King thing. There was a lot of destruction from that verdict, even if it was the wrong verdict. King even had to come out and ask the people to get along.
 
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