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US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

i will end the war in iraq responsibly, i will listen to the recommendations of my commanders, i will assist the iraqis as they build the institutions of democracy and self government, and i will direct the withdrawal of american forces from the region...

we're going to the large base we spent so much money on!

LOL!
 
i will end the war in iraq responsibly, i will listen to the recommendations of my commanders, i will assist the iraqis as they build the institutions of democracy and self government, and i will direct the withdrawal of american forces from the region...

Your position sounds just like Bush and Obama. :sun
 
Don't have to as leaving doesn't really mean leaving, but instead only going to the large base we spent so much on. Our goal of being based there has been realized.

I thought the SOFA specified that ALL troops must be out of Iraq by the end of the year. Is that not so?
 
I thought the SOFA specified that ALL troops must be out of Iraq by the end of the year. Is that not so?

No, that is not so. They will be using that base they built.
 
LOL!

you don't know what you're talking about---again

President Obama declared the beginning of the end of one of the longest and most divisive wars in American history on Friday as he announced he will withdraw combat forces from Iraq by August 2010 and all remaining U.S. troops by December 2011.

The plan will withdraw most of the 142,000 troops now in Iraq by the summer of next year, leaving 35,000 to 50,000 behind with the limited missions of training and advising Iraq security forces, hunting terrorist cells and protecting U.S. civilian and military personnel. Those "transitional forces" will leave by 2011 in accordance with a strategic agreement negotiated by President George W. Bush before he left office.

"Let me say this as plainly as I can," Obama told the Marines. "By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end."

He added: "I intend to remove all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2011. We will complete this transition to Iraqi responsibility, and we will bring our troops home with the honor that they have earned."

All U.S. troops out of Iraq by 2011, Obama says - SFGate

facts are our friends, facts are very powerful
 
7 April 2011

"I think there is interest in having a continuing presence, but the politics are such that we'll just have to wait and see because the initiative ultimately has to come from the Iraqis," Mr Gates said during a question-and-answer session with some of the 200 soldiers stationed at the Camp Liberty US base.

BBC News - Robert Gates: US Iraq troops 'could stay longer'

Signs are mounting that some U.S. forces could remain in Iraq after President Barack Obama's declared December 31 full withdrawal date.

The latest sign comes from Leon Panetta, Obama's choice to be the next U.S. secretary of defense.

During a Senate confirmation hearing on his nomination on June 9, he said, "I think it's clear to me that Iraq is considering the possibility of making a request for some kind of presence to remain there."

U.S. Troops Look Set To Stay In Iraq Beyond 2011 - Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty © 2011
 
LOL!

you don't know what you're talking about---again



All U.S. troops out of Iraq by 2011, Obama says - SFGate

facts are our friends, facts are very powerful

Ya, no more "troops"... but we will still have :
- mercenaries
- military diplomats
- security forces
- combat assistance brigades
- and more...

But remember what Obama told us, (to paraphrase lightly) we are "waging peace" in these countries. That's why Obama deserves the peace prize still.

We are literally entering a 1984 society where the lexicon is so manipulated that we'll actually start to believe that war is peace, that ignorance is strength and that freedom is slavery.
 
Ya, no more "troops"... but we will still have :
- mercenaries
- military diplomats
- security forces
- combat assistance brigades
- and more...

But remember what Obama told us, (to paraphrase lightly) we are "waging peace" in these countries. That's why Obama deserves the peace prize still.

We are literally entering a 1984 society where the lexicon is so manipulated that we'll actually start to believe that war is peace, that ignorance is strength and that freedom is slavery.

Like many before him, he was careful with the language. And he won't be the last to so deceive. Sadly.
 
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vote obama, 2012!

he won't be the last to deceive!

how utterly pathetic

standards, anyone?
 
Which liar do you prefer?

That's where the Prof's claims falls apart of course. There are no credible presidential candidates that are less hawkish. And he forgets to mention it was the GOP that voted us into the unnecessary war in Iraq in the first place! :sun
 
That's where the Prof's claims falls apart of course. There are no credible presidential candidates that are less hawkish. And he forgets to mention it was the GOP that voted us into the unnecessary war in Iraq in the first place! :sun

He misses a lot. Sadly, we always have to choose between the candidates we have. Sadly, we don't do the job we need to getting better people not only to run, but to make sure they don't need the money to run, thus beholding them to interests. You know, those loppying groups the poor have to keep all their sweet deals they get from the government. ;)
 
No, that is not so. They will be using that base they built.

They built dozens of bases and several super sized ones. But all are located in Iraq aren't they?
 
They built dozens of bases and several super sized ones. But all are located in Iraq aren't they?

I will have to look. Seems I remember a rather large one in Iraq. But I may look into it more later, memory goes when you age. ;)
 
BAGHDAD — On Nov. 17, 2008, U.S. and Iraqi officials signed a security agreement requiring all U.S. troops to leave the country by the end of 2011.

The same day, according to military records, construction crews at Camp Adder, a sprawling U.S. air base in southern Iraq, broke ground on a $61 million series of aircraft shelters. Over the next 14 months, the military started work on an additional $150 million in new base construction in Iraq, representing the culmination of a years-long building effort that continued even after the U.S. formally agreed to leave the country and began laying plans to depart.

In all, the military finished $496 million in base construction projects during 2009, the highest annual figure since the war began and nearly a quarter of the $2.1 billion spent on American bases in Iraq since 2004. An additional $323 million worth of projects are set to be completed this year, according to figures provided by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which oversees base construction.

U.S. base projects continue in Iraq despite plans to leave - News - Stripes
 
BAGHDAD — On Nov. 17, 2008, U.S. and Iraqi officials signed a security agreement requiring all U.S. troops to leave the country by the end of 2011.

The same day, according to military records, construction crews at Camp Adder, a sprawling U.S. air base in southern Iraq, broke ground on a $61 million series of aircraft shelters. Over the next 14 months, the military started work on an additional $150 million in new base construction in Iraq, representing the culmination of a years-long building effort that continued even after the U.S. formally agreed to leave the country and began laying plans to depart.

In all, the military finished $496 million in base construction projects during 2009, the highest annual figure since the war began and nearly a quarter of the $2.1 billion spent on American bases in Iraq since 2004. An additional $323 million worth of projects are set to be completed this year, according to figures provided by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which oversees base construction.

U.S. base projects continue in Iraq despite plans to leave - News - Stripes

Only problem is the people in Iraq and this country want all the troops out by the end of this year, and we are facing unsupportable debt. I know of no more wasteful spending that we can cut.
 
Only problem is the people in Iraq and this country want all the troops out by the end of this year, and we are facing unsupportable debt. I know of no more wasteful spending that we can cut.

If violence is low, and it can be pushed aside to other bothers, I'll be surprised if there is any real public outcry in either place. But, I would prefer we weren't there.
 
If violence is low, and it can be pushed aside to other bothers, I'll be surprised if there is any real public outcry in either place. But, I would prefer we weren't there.

6 June 2011 - "Five US soldiers have been killed in central Iraq, the US military has said.

Iraqi security sources said there had been a rocket attack, with other reports saying the target was on the outskirts of Baghdad.

The BBC's Jim Muir says the US military has suffered its single most serious incident in Iraq in over two years.

Elsewhere in the country on Monday, at least 21 people were killed in twin bomb attacks, one on a mosque, in the northern city of Tikrit."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13666607


I think our debt will be the biggest motivator for American protests. I think there is much more resistance by the Iraqis. Otherwise, the agreement would have been extended by them already at the pressure they have been under for years now by the US for the extension.
 
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Sadly, we don't do the job we need to getting better people not only to run, but to make sure they don't need the money to run, thus beholding them to interests.

pardon?

You know, those loppying groups the poor have to keep all their sweet deals they get from the government.

dept chairs just can't help themselfs

LOL!
 
dept chairs just can't help themselfs

LOL!

Is baiting/flaming all you know how to do?

What is your position on staying in Iraq? Which candidate says they will bring the troops home the quickest? You know, if you are going to post in the thread you could occasionally add something pertinent to the topic. :sun
 
february 27, 2009:

barack the slasher hussein "announced he will withdraw combat forces from iraq by august, 2010 and all remaining us troops by december, 2011"

(link above)

how exciting!

will all remaining troops be out of iraq before or after gitmo closes?

before or after ksm is tried in civil court?

before or after the slasher meets with the leaders of iran?

obama has no idea what he's doing

hope and change, anyone?
 
february 27, 2009:

barack the slasher hussein "announced he will withdraw combat forces from iraq by august, 2010 and all remaining us troops by december, 2011"

(link above)

how exciting!

will all remaining troops be out of iraq before or after gitmo closes?

before or after ksm is tried in civil court?

before or after the slasher meets with the leaders of iran?

obama has no idea what he's doing

hope and change, anyone?


Which party voted for the war in Iraq? And who is the GOP candidate calling for an earlier withdrawal from Iraq? :sun
 
that's why you don't have the facts

Which party voted for the war in Iraq? And who is the GOP candidate calling for an earlier withdrawal from Iraq? :sun
 
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