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As Corporate Profits Soar, Workers are Making Less!

The super rich of this country are not Americans. They belong to a very different international community and they have no loyalties to our country. I don't know how long it will take people to figure it out, but lower taxes does not equate to a freer market.

Lower taxes would equate to a freer market if taxes were lowered by the same proportion for everyone, not just a select few. Doing the latter is called corporate welfare or re-distributing wealth.

But why should anyone have loyalty to America only? Isn't it better to just have loyalty to basic values, like freedom, honesty, fairness?

There's nothing special about the US.
 
You're supposed to ignore inconvenient facts like that.

After all, companies just can't remain competitive if they are forced to pay their workers decent wages and benefits.

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So who is buying the products of these companies, if workers don't have enough money to buy food? Of course these companies don't include the dog food and can opener companies, since Republicans have made sure prices remain low enough for the elderly to eat.
 
No, that is the way it actually works. Rich person gets more money sends/invest/gives workers higher wages, that spent/invested money increases demand, demand increase job, more jobs means more more demand of most goods, etc... This only works if the money flows down eventually, instead of circulating at the top. If the section with the most money don't do anything with it, trickle down ever happens. Right now, the section with most money is the top 10% and they aren't spending.

Totally inaccurate. The effect on the market for jobs of lower taxes on corporations depends on the nature of the tax (i. e. lowering excise taxes vs. lowering income taxes).

Just lowering the income tax rates for businesses does not necessarily translate to more jobs. Businesses operating in their current state typically hire based on the point at which the marginal cost of an additional employee equals that employee's marginal revenue, and no more. The income tax rate doesn't change that point.

And any excess funds will be invested in areas that yield the greatest return, and that may not necessarily be in expansion in areas that hire more labor.

The notion of "trickle down" economics is just more propoganda for the dumbed down masses.
 
Corporate profits are soaring for GE and other cronies who are backing this dictatorial regime who get special breaks and Obamacare exemptions from this totalitarian regime. When you dont have to pay taxes your profits will soar. Meanwhile small business's who make over 200,000 (gross) are shackeled with more & more dictatorial regulations and taxes that are bankrupting them one by one, thus the high unemployment rate.

Even if corporations are making more (beside the cronies) which I really doubt, who in there right mind thinks that even higher taxes and even more regulations (we already have the 2nd highest corporate rate in the world) are going to improve things for workers? Get your Damn grubby hands of my damn wallet and stay the hell out of my household you totalitarian Liberals. Face it your idealogy has failed completly.
Look at the damn economy, Jobs, housing market, cost of energy ect ect.

The proof is there for us all to see but idealogy (no matter how utterly incoherant) is more important to these Liberals than truth or facts.
 
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Corporate profits are soaring for GE and other cronies who are backing this dictatorial regime who get special breaks and Obamacare exemptions from this totalitarian regime. When you dont have to pay taxes your profits will soar. Meanwhile small business's who make over 200,000 (gross) are shackeled with more & more dictatorial regulations and taxes that are bankrupting them one by one, thus the high unemployment rate.

Even if corporations are making more (beside the cronies) which I really doubt, who in there right mind thinks that even higher taxes and even more regulations (we already have the 2nd highest corporate rate in the world) are going to improve things for workers? Get your Damn grubby hands of my damn wallet and stay the hell out of my household you totalitarian Liberals. Face it your idealogy has failed completly.
Look at the damn economy, Jobs, housing market, cost of energy ect ect.

The proof is there for us all to see but idealogy (no matter how utterly incoherant) is more important to these Liberals than truth or facts.

Soooooo not following what you just said. The rhetoric appears to have choked out the points.
 
So who is buying the products of these companies, if workers don't have enough money to buy food? Of course these companies don't include the dog food and can opener companies, since Republicans have made sure prices remain low enough for the elderly to eat.

Did you already forget the "Walmart Shoppers are running out of money" thread?
 
Corporate profits are soaring for GE and other cronies who are backing this dictatorial regime who get special breaks and Obamacare exemptions from this totalitarian regime. When you dont have to pay taxes your profits will soar. Meanwhile small business's who make over 200,000 (gross) are shackeled with more & more dictatorial regulations and taxes that are bankrupting them one by one, thus the high unemployment rate.

Even if corporations are making more (beside the cronies) which I really doubt, who in there right mind thinks that even higher taxes and even more regulations (we already have the 2nd highest corporate rate in the world) are going to improve things for workers? Get your Damn grubby hands of my damn wallet and stay the hell out of my household you totalitarian Liberals. Face it your idealogy has failed completly.
Look at the damn economy, Jobs, housing market, cost of energy ect ect.

The proof is there for us all to see but idealogy (no matter how utterly incoherant) is more important to these Liberals than truth or facts.

Care to supply some information with LINKS to support your claims?
 
Soooooo not following what you just said. The rhetoric appears to have choked out the points.
Goverment (Liberal) policy has more to do with the average worker not making more than corporations being greedy, Obama pissed away a Trillon dollar stimulous that created no jobs, the regulations his EPA & other goverment agencies are choking off & bankrupting business. I could go on & on but instead of addressing the issues you throw out an incoherant post accusing me of throwing out rhetoric, so whats the point of trying to explain it to you.
 
Goverment (Liberal) policy has more to do with the average worker not making more than corporations being greedy, Obama pissed away a Trillon dollar stimulous that created no jobs, the regulations his EPA & other goverment agencies are choking off & bankrupting business. I could go on & on but instead of addressing the issues you throw out an incoherant post accusing me of throwing out rhetoric, so whats the point of trying to explain it to you.

Quick question. If it was incoherent, then how do you know what I said.
 
Care to supply some information with LINKS to support your claims?
Where the hell have you been, living under a rock for the last few years? GE paid no taxes in 2010 and had a several billion dollar profit, King Obama has been handing out exemptions to Obamacare to his favorite constituents like candy at a parade, ect ect. this has all been in the news recently, apparently you havent been paying attention & I dont have all day here to post them all because there are so many.

As far as the regulations on small bussiness and such, I can give you one recent example. Go to Mark Levins website under audio & download his 6-13 program & listen to the callers that call in and explain some of the crap they are forcing painters to go thru. There is so much out there if you want to find it.
 
Quick question. If it was incoherent, then how do you know what I said.
The premise of the thread that workers are all suffering because of corporate profits (except the cronies) is whats incoherant, so is the goverment policy which IMO is causing it. If you support whats going on than in my mind its incoherant.
 
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Where the hell have you been, living under a rock for the last few years? GE paid no taxes in 2010 and had a several billion dollar profit, King Obama has been handing out exemptions to Obamacare to his favorite constituents like candy at a parade, ect ect. this has all been in the news recently, apparently you havent been paying attention & I dont have all day here to post them all because there are so many.

As far as the regulations on small bussiness and such, I can give you one recent example. Go to Mark Levins website under audio & download his 6-13 program & listen to the callers that call in and explain some of the crap they are forcing painters to go thru. There is so much out there if you want to find it.

Mark Levin? Is that where you get your information about economics and government policy...via a RADIO SPIN JOCKEY?

Ever try reading?

BTW...I don't know who your pissed at, but using DP to vent your anger at people who don't have any more power over government than you do...this ain't the place to do it.

Ya Dig?

Your rants might be received better if you were offering your arguments with source information and links to support your claims.

Quite frankly, even though you apparently want to execute every liberal in the world, great, but do it some place else.

DP has members with a broad range of political affiliations and philosophies, but slams and name calling...just don't cut it.

Please be civil in your posts.
 
Mark Levin? Is that where you get your information about economics and government policy...via a RADIO SPIN JOCKEY?

Ever try reading?

That won't fly. Just dismissing someone because they are on the radio does not mean their views, facts or argument is not valid. You must identify what is "SPIN" and prove it with evidence. Utilize the facts only and refute them.
 
Mark Levin? Is that where you get your information about economics and government policy...via a RADIO SPIN JOCKEY?

Let me help you out just a bit: Mark Levin

Levin has served as a top advisor to several members of President Ronald Reagan's Cabinet - including as Chief of Staff to the Attorney General of the United States. In 2001, the American Conservative Union named Levin the recipient of the prestigious Ronald Reagan Award. He currently practices law in the private sector, heading up the prestigious Landmark Legal Foundation in Washington DC.

Landmark Legal is a regular friend of the court in important legal proceedings in our Federal Court system. Whether you like him or not he is a force to be reckoned with, on air and in the courts.

Please be civil in your posts.
Sounds reasonable.
 
Mark Levin? Is that where you get your information about economics and government policy...via a RADIO SPIN JOCKEY?

The cheapest and oldest debating ploy is to kill the messenger rather than debating the acts at hand. This is juvenile.

Ever try reading?

Ever try listening?
 
The cheapest and oldest debating ploy is to kill the messenger rather than debating the acts at hand. This is juvenile.



Ever try listening?

If Mr. Iron wants to be civil in his post...he might encourage a debate. But, he is PISSED and going off on people in DP who are just as powerless as he is when it comes to our lovely government and economic policies.
 
If Mr. Iron wants to be civil in his post...he might encourage a debate. But, he is PISSED and going off on people in DP who are just as powerless as he is when it comes to our lovely government and economic policies.

He'll have to speak for himself.
 
He'll have to speak for himself.

IRON said:
Even if corporations are making more (beside the cronies) which I really doubt, who in there right mind thinks that even higher taxes and even more regulations (we already have the 2nd highest corporate rate in the world) are going to improve things for workers? Get your Damn grubby hands of my damn wallet and stay the hell out of my household you totalitarian Liberals. Face it your ideology has failed completely.
Look at the damn economy, Jobs, housing market, cost of energy ect ect.

The proof is there for us all to see but ideology (no matter how utterly incoherent) is more important to these Liberals than truth or facts.

You a mind reader, Grant? What proof is for all to see...according to Mr. Iron! Proof of what?

I don't care about liberal this and conservative that. Government ain't our friend, no matter what the party or political philosophy.

Where do I start the debate? I see Mr. Iron is mad as hell and his reasons for our broken economy is TOTALITARIAN LIBERALS. Oh really? What the hell does that mean?

What it means to me is...where is he getting all of this totalitarian liberal...country wrecking nonsense. Oh, I forgot. A radio guy.

Both side of the political spectrum are responsible for everything that's affected our country's ups and many downs since George Washington. They are ALL Guilty!
 
Let me help you out just a bit: Mark Levin



Landmark Legal is a regular friend of the court in important legal proceedings in our Federal Court system. Whether you like him or not he is a force to be reckoned with, on air and in the courts.


Sounds reasonable.

In the end...he's a radio commentary guy. He voices opinions, you know like all of his broadcast peers. He, like all of the others in his business. They are really happy when folks can't or don't discern fact from opinion. It all sounds so real. But when they are called on their BS. Then they acknowledge that their comments were opinion. Some will even say that their job is to entertain.

I've seen Mark Levin speak. I clearly get the gist of what is background is and his political philosophies. But that doesn't make him the do all to end all political expert. He's a legal guy. That was his relationship to the Reagan admin.
 
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You a mind reader, Grant? What proof is for all to see...according to Mr. Iron! Proof of what?

I have no idea what you're talking about.
I don't care about liberal this and conservative that. Government ain't our friend, no matter what the party or political philosophy.

You should care because some political philosophies are a great deal different than others.
Where do I start the debate? I see Mr. Iron is mad as hell and his reasons for our broken economy is TOTALITARIAN LIBERALS. Oh really? What the hell does that mean?

It means Liberals who tend toward Totalitarianism.We've seen that repeatedly in the past, and today.
What it means to me is...where is he getting all of this totalitarian liberal...country wrecking nonsense. Oh, I forgot. A radio guy.

You forget easily it seems.

But yes, Levin is a radio guy, a TV guy and a book guy. He's been in many types of media. Does it matter that one of them is radio?
 
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Good, neither did I concerning "Iron Yanks" rants. That was my point to him. That's why I asked him to provide sources for his claims.

I can't read his mind, and I'd bet you can't either. His argument was loaded full of raging opinions that he was posing to be as universal facts.

You should care because some political philosophies are a great deal different than others.

So your philosophy rules and has more value than all others?

It means Liberals who tend toward Totalitarianism.We've seen that repeatedly in the past, and today.

B.S. Complete and total B.S. This country has never experienced totalitarianism under either political party. Corruption and Cronyism...oh hell yes. Both are totally guilty!

If you want to continue making that claim...then I invite you to prove it.

But yes, Levin is a radio guy, a TV guy and a book guy. He's been in many types of media. Does it matter that one of them is radio?

Once again...so-called pundit type broadcast personalities LOVE when people are either ignorant and can't discern the difference between opinion and fact. And they value fans who just won't care if their content is opinion or fact. But both types have one thing in common. They will believe opinions to be facts.

Do you believe everything you hear from Mark Levin...without question or reservation? And the same question applies to any other "political pundit" that you might adore.
 
In the end...he's a radio commentary guy.
How does he differ from any author? Especially since he is the author of several important books?

But that doesn't make him the do all to end all political expert. He's a legal guy. That was his relationship to the Reagan admin.
Was that argument offered? I don't think so. i have listened to him frequently. I look forward to hearing his viewpoint. His perspective is similar to my own. This government, by contract, is a constitutionally-limited government. It is breaking the contract. We need to put in politicians who will return to the contract.
 
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