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Fights break out at Carson Beach

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Fights break out at Carson Beach - The Boston Globe

Fights broke out among rival gang members on Carson Beach in South Boston yesterday and spilled out across the city, triggering a massive law enforcement response from at least five agencies to stem the violence.

Tweet 25 people Tweeted this.ShareThis .Police said the gang members are part of a group of more than 1,000 youths who have used social media sites like Facebook to plan unruly gatherings on the beach on three of the past four nights. The beach falls under the jurisdiction of the State Police, who have been unable to prevent the violence.

The response yesterday resembled crowd-control tactics reserved for major sporting victories.

State Police were already on edge, after a trooper was accosted Sunday night by members of the group. The trooper chased one of the youths, who ran, clutching the waistband of his shorts “consistent with the manner in which a person with a gun would hold it,’’ said David Procopio, a spokesman for the State Police.
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And if that weren't enough.......

Steve Rothaus' Gay South Florida

Poet Gunned Down In N. Miami « CBS Miami

Myrtle Beach police inundated with crime during 8-hour window - Local - TheSunNews.com

Police Break Up Fights at Charlotte Beach - Rochester, News, Weather, Sports, and Events - 13WHAM.com

Victim's family, city leaders have questions after uptown shooting | WCNC.com Charlotte

Unruly crowds shut down Wave Country | The Tennessean | tennessean.com

Uptown chaos causes DNC concern - WBTV 3 News, Weather, Sports, and Traffic for Charlotte, NC-

Add all this to the increasing danger of walking into a fast-food restaurant to order a cheeseburger, and all hell is breaking loose.

I was in Miami recently, and the nightly news is just filled with daily violence all over the city. It's got to be one of the most dangerous cities in the world.

What in Sam Hill is going on with people?
 
Don't you recognize a socialist utopia when you see one? ;)
 
Arlington has gone to hell in a handbasket over the last 10 years. It's crazy to see the decline.

When I was in high school the mayor of Arlington was a complete tool who insisted that we didn't have a gang problem. Meanwhile, there are knife fights between rival gangs at one high school, another gang fight involved metal pipes and 2x4s at my high school, the mall turned into nothing more than gang patrols (it got to the point that the police department installed a satellite office with holding cells in the mall. When they decided to build the new Cowboys stadium here they bought out the people in the worst neighborhood in the city (with the highest crime rate) at twice the value of their homes, so they just spread out and brought the crime with them. Now you can't drive through my parents neighborhood without seeing competing gang tags on the street signs or sides of people's fences.

Cops in Arlington were threatened at their homes following their decision not to charge the off-duty Houston cop who shot and killed a young man who had a weapon and refused to "drop it" as instructed. Cops were told "don't wear your uniforms to/from work, don't take off-duty jobs". The angry group who were responsible for the threats and concerns protested at the Arlington jail, blocking in police officers who were trying to leave for patrol or after their shifts had ended. Some of the protesters were violent. The police chief and mayor said not to arrest any of the protesters. Cops arrested some of the violent ones anyway and were disciplined for it.
 
tessaesque said:
Arlington has gone to hell in a handbasket over the last 10 years. It's crazy to see the decline.

When I was in high school the mayor of Arlington was a complete tool who insisted that we didn't have a gang problem. Meanwhile, there are knife fights between rival gangs at one high school, another gang fight involved metal pipes and 2x4s at my high school, the mall turned into nothing more than gang patrols (it got to the point that the police department installed a satellite office with holding cells in the mall. When they decided to build the new Cowboys stadium here they bought out the people in the worst neighborhood in the city (with the highest crime rate) at twice the value of their homes, so they just spread out and brought the crime with them. Now you can't drive through my parents neighborhood without seeing competing gang tags on the street signs or sides of people's fences.

Cops in Arlington were threatened at their homes following their decision not to charge the off-duty Houston cop who shot and killed a young man who had a weapon and refused to "drop it" as instructed. Cops were told "don't wear your uniforms to/from work, don't take off-duty jobs". The angry group who were responsible for the threats and concerns protested at the Arlington jail, blocking in police officers who were trying to leave for patrol or after their shifts had ended. Some of the protesters were violent. The police chief and mayor said not to arrest any of the protesters. Cops arrested some of the violent ones anyway and were disciplined for it.
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I lived in Arlington for over 10 years before I migrated to the north side of the metroplex. I don't even recognize the place when I go through there anymore.
 
Erod said:
I lived in Arlington for over 10 years before I migrated to the north side of the metroplex. I don't even recognize the place when I go through there anymore.
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I grew up in Irving, then moved to Euless before leaving the state for 4 years. When I moved to Arlington later I was shocked at how nice it was, overall. Parks Mall was pristine back then. My dad could drop me off at 15 and I could wander the mall with $200, all by myself...and that was perfectly safe. Now, at 26, I wouldn't wander that mall alone with a bottle of mace. And the most influential family in the city (Vandergriffs) would rather fight over how close a Hooters is to a high school than worry about the crime rates and general decay of the city they essentially put on the map.

I live on the southwest side of Plano now (technically Far North Dallas) and I can't believe how much nicer it is....and the cost of living is less, which is even more amazing.
 
This reminds me of the shark scare a few years ago. Even though there were statistically less shark attacks, the media, decided to make shark attacks a huge deal, seemingly like they were happening every day. They werent.
 
American said:
Don't you recognize a socialist utopia when you see one? ;)
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Random gang violence is the fault of liberals, you heard it here first!
 
I lived in a big city for a while, about 20 years ago. I moved back to the country. I have never really regretted it, and this sort of thing just reinforces to me that I made the right choice.

Screw that crap.
 
Goshin said:
I lived in a big city for a while, about 20 years ago. I moved back to the country. I have never really regretted it, and this sort of thing just reinforces to me that I made the right choice.

Screw that crap.
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That's fair. Some people prefer city life, others prefer the country. I personally grew up in a small town and hated it. From 20 on, I've lived in the city (with the exception of a two-year stint in small-town Nebraska, which I also didn't enjoy).

None of that negates the fact that violent crime is down significantly - especially from the levels it was at during the height of the crack epidemic.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I'll remember you said it first. It's also pure unprovable crap.
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Yet you are now able to behold the results of the "War on Poverty", creation of 'The Welfare State", and "The Nannie State", and "The Entitlement State". Essentially the government subsidy of bad choices and irresponsibility.

When you pay for folks to be non-accountable, you will get more of it.

Its provable .... and you heard it here first ;)

Behold your social utopia liberals.
 
tessaesque said:
I grew up in Irving, then moved to Euless before leaving the state for 4 years. When I moved to Arlington later I was shocked at how nice it was, overall. Parks Mall was pristine back then. My dad could drop me off at 15 and I could wander the mall with $200, all by myself...and that was perfectly safe. Now, at 26, I wouldn't wander that mall alone with a bottle of mace. And the most influential family in the city (Vandergriffs) would rather fight over how close a Hooters is to a high school than worry about the crime rates and general decay of the city they essentially put on the map.

I live on the southwest side of Plano now (technically Far North Dallas) and I can't believe how much nicer it is....and the cost of living is less, which is even more amazing.
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Been to Plano. Nice area.
 
FilmFestGuy said:
We are safer now from violent crime than we have been in nearly 40 years.
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certainly not for chicago schoolkids

"in chicago, nearly 700 children were hit by gunfire last year---an average of almost two a day---and 66 of them died"

Chicago's Schools, Police Work To Stem Violence : NPR

the "wave of violence" drowning chicago's schools has been going on for years, cnn used to cover it a lot

Minority youngsters dying weekly on Chicago's streets - CNN

36 Chicago area students killed sets record - Washington Times

Twenty CPS Students Killed Already This Year

which only makes obama's promotion of arne duncan from ceo of chicago's school system to secretary of education bizarre

today: Chicago Police Brace for 'Flash Mob' Attacks - WSJ.com
 
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I grew up in the San Diego area and it was a great place to live but it now has gang problems like every other big City.

I have also lived in the San Francisco Bay Area, Dallas, TX, and Portland, OR to name a few of the Metropolitan and a couple of small towns as well and I believe these problems start with Mom, Dad, and move on to the school systems and the economy.

Percentages of crime have gone down but the the violence is still there and people don't deal with it like we used to, and because the Family isn't there the gang is. Children need companionship and role models they don't have, like I did and my children did.

I see kids from broke homes that lack direction and find themselves in trouble all the time.

There is no quick fix to these problems but unless we address them head no and honestly, and forget the PC BS.
 
 
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It's everywhere. Has to be orchestrated..
Woman Believes Beach Violence Covered Up | NBC Chicago
Woman Believes Beach Violence Covered Up
City officials say incidents handled promptly
By Dick Johnson | Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 |

...........Schwartz believes the story of what really happened that day is being purposely downplayed in the name of saving Chicago's summer tourist business and the reputations of the city's new mayor and police superintendent.
Both Garry McCarthy and Rahm Emanuel have said the people suffering from heat exhaustion was the only reason for closing the beach. A city spokesman says the violence calls were handled promptly, and deny there's any attempt to spin the facts.
But they haven't convinced everyone.
"There were other calls that I heard on the tapes reporting the same incident I saw," Schwartz said. "I know we didn’t all have the same hallucination. Denial is not protecting anyone. I expect them to acknowledge the truth and do something about it."
Police presence has been boosted significantly at the beach since Memorial Day.
MORE in link, and video.

Could be off topic a bit, maybe not..
 
You need to take your guns. Protect yourself. Shoot to kill.
 
today: Gray deploys firefighters to protect summer youth workers | Freeman Klopott | DC | Washington Examiner

The Vincent Gray administration is deploying firefighters to street corners to help protect members of the city's Summer Youth Employment Program on payday.

Youths enrolled in the program have routinely been mugged on paydays in summers past. The city has tried different tactics to keep kids working government-sponsored jobs from being targeted, including dropping paychecks for debit cards.
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