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Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping impact

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Good. Patriotism should include protecting the environment.

If there's a forest fire most anywhere it would trump whatever nefarious effects of the smoke... Seriously, if environmentalism continues getting carried away as it's been, where's the end???

Like many things, depends on how it turns out. Filing paperwork to set off a few bottle rockets is unreasonable but if a city puts on a giant show I don't see why they shouldn't consider the local area in terms of pollution.

Ya... it'll be reasonable first, as an "assessment" and then there will be a drastic exageration of the impact and eventually each state will only be allowed 10 bottle rockets on the fourth of july, and there will be a massive climate luxury tax so those 10 bottle rockets will cost more then the entire shows we see today...

I know where it's at, the fact it's HAPPENING AT ALL...

Is what is amazing.

Ya I know... and it'll probably get worse before it gets better.

Ever been to Disneyland at about 10:15 at night?? For about 9 months out of the year.. They have a firework display that is rather large every single night.. I lived in Westminister for a number years.. I used to climb up onto my friends roof and we would sit and watch it..

People light fireworks off for other things besides the 4th of July.. Just saying..

In either case.. I just go to the indian reservations now..

Ya, BIG DEAL... any ashes settle to the ground, and the smoke dissipates... not to mention that in the hundreds of years that people have been using fireworks there's yet to be any significant impact, except for those accidents like in that video.

I'd imagine there are a lot of toxic substances in some fireworks in order to give off the colors that they do.

If it's a big show then local air, water, and land quality will be affected as the debris settles.

This doesn't seem all the unreasonable.

Ok, you care about that, but meanwhile you'll allow companies to put things like anti-freeze into food products to offset other toxic chemicals (in very low-doses)... no comment on the GMO studies that cause up to 100% sterility by the third generation of consumption, no comments when it comes to true toxic pollution, no worries for radiation... but a little bit of ash and some smoke and these people all got their boxers in a bunch.

enviromentalism is a movement that requires-as a byproduct-government control of private property

it soon becomes taken over by those who see government control of private property as the main goal rather than a byproduct

Yes, and I hope that doesn't wind up happening... or we'll end up in a :


(BTW, this ad was a british government sponsored ad)
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

You said "this country" in an attempt to link this small town's fireworks law to the EPA...

FAIL.


Wherein did I say the EPA?

The fail sir, is in your lap, or rather on your face.
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

Good. Patriotism should include protecting the environment.

Like hell it should. If I want to burn football field sized American flag into the ground on my own property it's none of your business.

Don't make ridiculous statements.
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

enviromentalism is a movement that requires-as a byproduct-government control of private property

it soon becomes taken over by those who see government control of private property as the main goal rather than a byproduct

Bingo!!!!!!!!!!
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

You imagine, you have no clue. Fireworks displays have been going on for DECADES, don't you think we'd of noticed any real impact by now?

Oh, wait, better to force an environmental impact statement, "just in case" right?

:roll:

Thanks for the unwarranted rudeness. You wonder why people here question your intentions, yet you revert right back to snarkiness at the first opportunity. I wasn't trying to be offensive, I was just giving my opinion. Maybe I am ignorant, who knows? Am I not allowed to state what I am thinking now?

I wasn't trying to suggest that they have a HUGE impact... I was just saying why do something that is toxic when we don't have to?

Everything we do has non-toxic alternatives. If we put our minds to it, we can create equivalents to the things we have now, except they won't harm anything: not us or nature.
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

Thanks for the unwarranted rudeness. You wonder why people here question your intentions, yet you revert right back to snarkiness at the first opportunity. I wasn't trying to be offensive, I was just giving my opinion. Maybe I am ignorant, who knows? Am I not allowed to state what I am thinking now?
Maybe you should consider your comments before posting them more, engage some common sense?
I wasn't trying to suggest that they have a HUGE impact...
Now we'll know, after wasting tens of thousands of tax payers dollars, to know how "huge" the impact is.
I was just saying why do something that is toxic when we don't have to?
When you turn on a light, start a car, breathe, you are adding CO2 to the planet, you are polluting the Mother Gaia...
Everything we do has non-toxic alternatives. If we put our minds to it, we can create equivalents to the things we have now, except they won't harm anything: not us or nature.

Spend billions for research into "Green Fireworks"? To what end? Mitigate a non-problem?
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

Thanks for the unwarranted rudeness. You wonder why people here question your intentions, yet you revert right back to snarkiness at the first opportunity. I wasn't trying to be offensive, I was just giving my opinion. Maybe I am ignorant, who knows? Am I not allowed to state what I am thinking now?

I wasn't trying to suggest that they have a HUGE impact... I was just saying why do something that is toxic when we don't have to?

Everything we do has non-toxic alternatives. If we put our minds to it, we can create equivalents to the things we have now, except they won't harm anything: not us or nature.

Ya, but there's not as much money in doing things like that... you just lost the vote of anyone that owns stock (except for investor-hippies)
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

Thanks for the unwarranted rudeness. You wonder why people here question your intentions, yet you revert right back to snarkiness at the first opportunity. I wasn't trying to be offensive, I was just giving my opinion. Maybe I am ignorant, who knows? Am I not allowed to state what I am thinking now?

I wasn't trying to suggest that they have a HUGE impact... I was just saying why do something that is toxic when we don't have to?

Everything we do has non-toxic alternatives. If we put our minds to it, we can create equivalents to the things we have now, except they won't harm anything: not us or nature.

Yeah...we could just all live in caves.

Seriously...if its not broke...don't attempt to fix it or you will end up breaking it.
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

Do a quick EA and then a simple Finding of No Significant Impact (FONSI):- Done.
 
Re: Fireworks shows need new environmental review Court ruling could have sweeping im

Good. Patriotism should include protecting the environment.

So, putting small businesses out of business is now patriotic? :lamo
 
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