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Hope Never Dies - An Obama - Bidan Detective Novel

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Yep, out today. Hope Never Dies by Andrew Shaffer.

S[FONT=&quot]tep aside Holmes and Watson; back off Poirot and Hastings. A new pair of amateur sleuths are hitting town this month: [/FONT]Barack Obama [FONT=&quot]and Joe Biden.
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Andrew Shaffer’s Hope Never Dies opens as Biden, his narrator, mopes around the house shortly after the 2016 presidential election. Obama is “on the vacation to end all vacations”, and his former vice president is scrolling through old text messages they sent each other, feeling left behind as he watches paparazzi videos of the 44th president kayaking with Justin Trudeau and base jumping with Bradley Cooper. Then, in a satisfyingly noirish scene, he hears “flint striking metal”, and sees “a slim figure in his black hand-tailored suit” in the trees:[/FONT]
“His white dress shirt was unbuttoned at the neck. He took a long drag off his cigarette and exhaled smoke with leisure. Barack Obama was never in a hurry.”​
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It doesn't appear to be political. I might actually buy and read this book. Might be fun for a change.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Yep, out today. Hope Never Dies by Andrew Shaffer.

- The Guardian
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It doesn't appear to be political. I might actually buy and read this book. Might be fun for a change.
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”His white dress shirt was unbuttoned at the neck. He took a long drag off his cigarette and exhaled smoke with leisure. Barack Obama was never in a hurry....
... even with Michelle lurking not far behind...
 
Risky Thicket said:
Yep, out today. Hope Never Dies by Andrew Shaffer.

- The Guardian
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It doesn't appear to be political. I might actually buy and read this book. Might be fun for a change.
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And here I hoped you were announcing the possibility of a Biden-Obama 2020 ticket!

That being said, I read Obama, and he's a surprisingly decent writer. Whether he & Joe got what it takes to pull-off a quality detective novel, remains to be seen. But it's interesting they are giving it a try.
 
chuckiechan said:
”His white dress shirt was unbuttoned at the neck. He took a long drag off his cigarette and exhaled smoke with leisure. Barack Obama was never in a hurry....
... even with Michelle lurking not far behind...
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:) We shall see. I bought the book. It does not appear to be a serious read. I hope it isn't. I'll let everyone know.
 
Chomsky said:
And here I hoped you were announcing the possibility of a Biden-Obama 2020 ticket!

That being said, I read Obama, and he's a surprisingly decent writer. Whether he & Joe got what it takes to pull-off a quality detective novel, remains to be seen. But it's interesting they are giving it a try.
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They could sell millions of copies of a book of blank pages to their fans.
 
washunut said:
They could sell millions of copies of a book of blank pages to their fans.
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Ah I remember it well, when we had a literate President who was not a philistine.
 
Alright, I've just got to post the cover illustration!


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washunut said:
They could sell millions of copies of a book of blank pages to their fans.
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You mean like, Dreams from my Father? Or, The Audacity of Hope?

The Covfefe now in office can't even produce a Tweet worth printing, much less a novel.
 
washunut said:
You remember FDR?
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Nope

But as a Trump supporter Im supsised you can even recall and give a shout out to the greatest progressive of the modern age. Great he was, long live his agenda. One of my favorite Presidents !! A man born to the part.
 
ataraxia said:
With this cover, I can't tell if Obama is the superhero and Biden is the sidekick, or the other way around.
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It's a great cover. I think the thing is going to sell by that cover alone!
 
Andrew Shaffer’s Hope Never Dies opens as Biden, his narrator, mopes around the house shortly after the 2016 presidential election. Obama is “on the vacation to end all vacations”, and his former vice president is scrolling through old text messages they sent each other, feeling left behind as he watches paparazzi videos of the 44th president kayaking with Justin Trudeau and base jumping with Bradley Cooper. Then, in a satisfyingly noirish scene, he hears “flint striking metal”, and sees “a slim figure in his black hand-tailored suit” in the trees:

“His white dress shirt was unbuttoned at the neck. He took a long drag off his cigarette and exhaled smoke with leisure. Barack Obama was never in a hurry.”
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It looks like Obama will be Holmes, and Biden will be Watson.

The more I see, the more I'm buying this thing!
 
ataraxia said:
With this cover, I can't tell if Obama is the superhero and Biden is the sidekick, or the other way around.
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Update: My post #14 here above, answers that.
 
Alright, sell me on Joe Biden.
I'm open to ideas.
Has he evolved any since the days when he was enjoying his days heading up the failed war on drugs and policing for profit, aka "civil asset forfeiture"?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Alright, sell me on Joe Biden.
I'm open to ideas.
Has he evolved any since the days when he was enjoying his days heading up the failed war on drugs and policing for profit, aka "civil asset forfeiture"?
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In a way though, this is ingenious.

The main proponents' character development has already been done in real-life. The book need not do it, but merely need find the plot line. The narration can be slim in the often early more boring developmental stuff, and nicely move right into the action from the get-go. Plus humor can immediately be interjected around the characters' idiosyncrasies. All due to the public's already great familiarity with the characters.

The above can be seen even from the very cover, with the unflinchingly charge-forward-first blue-collar ethos Biden spiritedly piloting his Vette, while the highly intelligent, cool-in-leadership, and impeccably attired Obama directs him.

I think typecasting Obama & Biden as Holmes & Watson, makes excellent use of their publicly perceived real-life attributes.
 
Chomsky said:
In a way though, this is ingenious.

The main proponents' character development has already been done in real-life. The book need not do it, but merely need find the plot line. The narration can be slim in the often early more boring developmental stuff, and nicely move right into the action from the get-go. Plus humor can immediately be interjected around the characters' idiosyncrasies. All due to the public's already great familiarity with the characters.

The above can be seen even from the very cover, with the unflinchingly charge-forward-first blue-collar ethos Biden spiritedly piloting his Vette, while the highly intelligent, cool-in-leadership, and impeccably attired Obama directs him.

I think typecasting Obama & Biden as Holmes & Watson, makes excellent use of their publicly perceived real-life attributes.
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I meant sell me on President Joe.
I know he's thought to be a generally smart and nice fellow.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I meant sell me on President Joe.
I know he's thought to be a generally smart and nice fellow.
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Ah, well I'm not necessarily recommending him for 2020, though I would vote for him if he made it to the general.

I think he's getting too old, and his time was 2016. In 2016 he would have taken it from Trump, I have little doubt. As to selling you further, I suspect you have your personal opinions of him, but searching for the ideal policy maker means nothing if they can't attain office. Biden had the ability to prevail. He may even still, though I'm not sure and don't think he's the guy to run. But, maybe.

Just remember this when contrasting policy, though:

"If the guy with one's ideal policies doesn't prevail, we get four more years of Trump & GOP policy."

Evaluated in that light, I say Biden's O.K. with me.
 
Risky Thicket said:
:) We shall see. I bought the book. It does not appear to be a serious read. I hope it isn't. I'll let everyone know.
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It shouldnt be. Books like these are usually classified as satire. I know of a fellow indie writer who did a Trump anthology.
 
Chomsky said:
Ah, well I'm not necessarily recommending him for 2020, though I would vote for him if he made it to the general.

I think he's getting too old, and his time was 2016. In 2016 he would have taken it from Trump, I have little doubt. As to selling you further, I suspect you have your personal opinions of him, but searching for the ideal policy maker means nothing if they can't attain office. Biden had the ability to prevail. He may even still, though I'm not sure and don't think he's the guy to run. But, maybe.

Just remember this when contrasting policy, though:

"If the guy with one's ideal policies doesn't prevail, we get four more years of Trump & GOP policy."

Evaluated in that light, I say Biden's O.K. with me.
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He's 75 years old, that is a lot younger than Bernie, and only six years older than Reagan when he was elected.
As long as he has evolved somewhat, and isn't still pushing the kind of nonsense the Clinton administration pushed, and as long as he advances an agenda which is liberal enough to push us away from the edge of the cliff we're teetering on now, I might be satisfied.
Not overjoyed, I'd still like to see someone more fresh, but I could be satisfied.
Maybe he could fulfill one term which could lead the way toward someone else in the party that has the strength and wisdom we need.

I'm just thinking about "the art of the possible", which you yourself referred to just now when you said "searching for the ideal policy maker means nothing if they can't attain office."

PS: The book sounds interesting, I'll have to check to see if it's on Kindle. :)
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
He's 75 years old, that is a lot younger than Bernie, and only six years older than Reagan when he was elected.
As long as he has evolved somewhat, and isn't still pushing the kind of nonsense the Clinton administration pushed, and as long as he advances an agenda which is liberal enough to push us away from the edge of the cliff we're teetering on now, I might be satisfied.
Not overjoyed, I'd still like to see someone more fresh, but I could be satisfied.
Maybe he could fulfill one term which could lead the way toward someone else in the party that has the strength and wisdom we need.

I'm just thinking about "the art of the possible", which you yourself referred to just now when you said "searching for the ideal policy maker means nothing if they can't attain office."

PS: The book sounds interesting, I'll have to check to see if it's on Kindle. :)
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"the art of the possible"

Very well said! Even more appropriate in this instance I believe, than my usual:

"don't let perfect be the enemy of good"

:thumbs:
 
Chomsky said:
Ah, well I'm not necessarily recommending him for 2020, though I would vote for him if he made it to the general.

I think he's getting too old, and his time was 2016. In 2016 he would have taken it from Trump, I have little doubt. As to selling you further, I suspect you have your personal opinions of him, but searching for the ideal policy maker means nothing if they can't attain office. Biden had the ability to prevail. He may even still, though I'm not sure and don't think he's the guy to run. But, maybe.

Just remember this when contrasting policy, though:

"If the guy with one's ideal policies doesn't prevail, we get four more years of Trump & GOP policy."

Evaluated in that light, I say Biden's O.K. with me.
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At this point in the Trump presidency, even this guy's looking OK to me as the next POTUS:

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