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What Has The GOP Done For Workers

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Came across this article and loved it.
This time i will site my source because apparently Socialists are all "thiefs".
Anyways im not a Democrat or whatever just like this article....
But Democrats in my book are the lesser of two evils tho.


What has GOP done for workers?
By Clint C. Gold

Not too long ago, my wife and I attended a TV football party in south Tulsa. With a lopsided score, the conversation turned to a livelier subject -- politics. The crowd was, of course, top-heavy with Republicans. With each point expressed their faces became more flushed, eyes bulging a little more and veins popping in their foreheads as they railed against the liberal programs.

Finally a lone, liberal voice asked: "Will you people name me one bill your party ever passed to help the working man of this country?" The question created much din and clamor, and someone sputtered, "Well, what have the Democrats done?"

The liberal responded with a few programs and was interrupted by howling and disdain. He noted that he had not promised they would like the programs and he asked to complete his statement -- a difficult task to ask of Republicans.

He spoke of Social Security; Medicare-Medicaid; Peace Corps; unemployment insurance; welfare (for the poor and corporate); civil rights; student grant and loan programs; safety laws (OSHA); environmental laws; prevailing wage laws; right to collective bargaining (which brought about paid medical insurance, paid vacations, pensions, etc.); workers' compensation; Marshall Plan; flood-disaster insurance; School Lunch Program; women's rights.

He spoke of the Fair Labor Standards Act, which established a minimum wage, instituted child labor laws, and set up time-and-a-half pay for over a 40-hour week.

He mentioned FHA-HUD with its public housing, urban renewal and 44 million residential homes (before WWII almost 70 percent of our nation were renters; by the 1970s this had been reversed).

And farm-conservation subsidies -- USDA programs, Farmers Home Administration (the bankers didn't want to make rural loans), small flood-control lakes (more than 3,000 in Oklahoma alone), rural water districts, rural electricity (REA).

The GI Bill was passed, which the Republicans at the time bitterly opposed. They were salivating over millions of returning veterans to hire as cheap labor. More than 8 million have used college benefits, creating millions of entrepreneurs; most of us had never dreamed of college. For the unemployed GI, there was $20 a week for 52 weeks to help get started (a lot of money in those days). The Veterans Administration provided more than 2 million home loans. For the bankers at the football party, it was pointed out that the liberals saved their industry with the creation of FDIC and FSLIC, insuring their deposits, and saved Wall Street with the establishment of the Securities Exchange Commission.

The oil men came on bended knees to FDR at a time when East Texas oil was 4 cents a barrel and begged him to save their industry. He did; prorationing overturned the rule of capture and the days of flush production were over. Prorating has served this great industry (and nation) well.

And the list went on and on, but of course this group didn't let him get halfway through. He noted they were weary, inattentive, so again he challenged them to offer up any Republican legislation examples.

"I'm sure your party has authored one or two comparable bills from time to time, but I can't think of any, and apparently you can't either. What it boils down to is this: the liberals dragged you into the 20th century scratching and screaming with your heels in the mud, fighting anything that's progressive, everything that's made this country great. You Republicans have never understood that the spending power of blue-collar workers, obtained through Democrats and unions, is what really made this country great. You really believe "The Good Life" was obtained from your own endeavors. You cloak your greed in religion and patriotism, railing against any form of tax, never comprehending that these programs have benefited all of us and our country."

Well, I almost didn't make it out of the house. My wife and I didn't even get to see the end of the football game.

If Reps. Steve Largent or J.C. Watts had been there, perhaps politics would never have come up, only the game plan ... pity.

Clint C. Gold is former mayor of Moore and a retired savings and loan executive.
“Alright. Lets just imagine here, lets imagine a world without liberals; imagine this world without the civil rights movement, the equal rights movement, child labor laws, clean air and water standards, social security, birth control, school lunch programs, labor unions, rural electrification, overtime pay, women suffrage, desegregation, the peace movement, minimum safety net for the nations neediest, medicare, and medicaid, peace corps, right to collective bargaining , student loan programs, GI healthcare, workers' compensation, farm-conservation subsidies, GI Bill, do i need to say more ?”—This is a response to when conservatives always say, “Imagine a world without liberals how better it would be.” “
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  1. Helvidius's Avatar
    This would be an interesting thread topic. Obviously, the story is extremely biased and broad, but it would stimulate interesting conversation. Not sure why the story credits just Democrats with the Civil Rights Act, but whatever. I would also like to point out the Dems have controlled Congress for a large amount of the 1900s.

    EPA was passed during the Nixon administration and FDA was passed during Teddy's time in office.
  2. lpast's Avatar
    What has republicans done for the working man...nothing lately
  3. TheDemSocialist's Avatar
    Now a thread.
  4. Councilman's Avatar
    Take right now as an example. They are trying to keep the Democrats and Obama from completely destroying the economy, along with it the Nation, and Obama from trashing the Constitution.

    Without strong Conservative values this Nation would have no morals at all, as is nearly is in San Francisco already. You should try mot to be so one way and try to work with people instead of wanting to fight them.
  5. Helvidius's Avatar
    What is the thread under?
  6. zimmer's Avatar
    He spoke of Social Security; Medicare-Medicaid; Peace Corps; unemployment insurance; welfare (for the poor and corporate);
    Ponzi/Madoff Schemes that have proven our ticket to ruin.

    civil rights;
    Republicans have been on the right side of this from the beginning. We have voted in favor of civil rights long before their was a "movement".

    student grant and loan programs;
    Socialist waste. Pay for your own education. Go to the bank to get a loan if you need one.

    safety laws (OSHA);
    An overbearing bit of government that adds huge costs to business.

    environmental laws;
    Filled with costs to business... it's a state and locality issue, not a Federal issue.

    prevailing wage laws;
    Minimum wage is a scourge that costs jobs and artificially inflates wages... and costs.

    right to collective bargaining (which brought about paid medical insurance, paid vacations, pensions, etc.)
    Yeah... look at how well that has served our schools and the state budgets. OUCH!

    ; workers' compensation
    ; There is nothing stopping unions from setting up their own comp system.

    Marshall Plan;
    A loan from one government to another or others is a loan they should pay back.

    flood-disaster insurance;
    That is why we have insurance and re-insurance companies. They weigh risk, even of Super Cats.

    School Lunch Program
    Another waste of taxpayers money. It's not government's job to play Mommy Dearest. Private charities could manage this better... should there be a need because parents are incompetent.

    women's rights.
    trying to take credit of a republican issue again?
    Here, you can learn how the Republican Party and Republican women were the primary force behind the women's suffrage movement and the passage of the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution; how Republican women made history by being the first women to serve in important roles; and, how Republican women today continue to explore uncharted territory on behalf of all women.
    National Federation of Republican Women

    He mentioned FHA-HUD with its public housing, urban renewal and 44 million residential homes (before WWII almost 70 percent of our nation were renters; by the 1970s this had been reversed).
    Yeah, look at what Cumo, Clinton and Carter did? Fannie & Freddie. There is nothing wrong with renting... if you do not want or cannot afford to buy a house.

    And farm-conservation subsidies -- USDA programs, Farmers Home Administration (the bankers didn't want to make rural loans), small flood-control lakes (more than 3,000 in Oklahoma alone), rural water districts, rural electricity (REA).
    Family farms have been slaughtered due to tax rules... socialist tax rules.

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  7. lpast's Avatar
    I guess people should work for a buck an hour right zimmer....another words work make someone rich and starve to death in the process....sorry but screwdat...there MUST be a minimum wage to keep the greedy skunks from taking it all
  8. TheDemSocialist's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius
    What is the thread under?
    General Discusssion
  9. TheDemSocialist's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer
    Ponzi/Madoff Schemes that have proven our ticket to ruin.
    Social security is not broke.


    Republicans have been on the right side of this from the beginning. We have voted in favor of civil rights long before their was a "movement".
    You do realize this was when the Republicans were "liberal" and the Democrats were "conservative". You do realize these two have switched several times throughout history?

    Socialist waste. Pay for your own education. Go to the bank to get a loan if you need one.
    Right! If you want an education and recieved good grades and what not in high school and you want to go to college but you just cant afford it we will go with Zimmers way and just say "WELL TO F*CKING BAD!"


    An overbearing bit of government that adds huge costs to business.
    Right protecting workers at work is terrible. Trying to stop work-related injuries, illnesses, and occupational fatality by issuing and enforcing standards for workplace safety and health is just awful. I mean we should let kids work in factories again. Big GOV!!!


    Filled with costs to business... it's a state and locality issue, not a Federal issue.
    Yea eff the environment. I want the world to look like LA's smog times 60! Like who needs the o-zone anyways?

    Minimum wage is a scourge that costs jobs and artificially inflates wages... and costs.
    Right...


    Instead we should let all the employers tell us how much we should make and then it will all go back down to lik 25 cents an hour.
    Remember all those people striking for wages and what not throughout the early and mid 1900's? Yea throw all their work down the drain.

    Yeah... look at how well that has served our schools and the state budgets. OUCH!
    Right sense collective bargaining somehow destroyed state budgets?

    ; There is nothing stopping unions from setting up their own comp system.
    I thought organized labor was bad?

    A loan from one government to another or others is a loan they should pay back.
    I would think its just doing a good deed

    That is why we have insurance and re-insurance companies. They weigh risk, even of Super Cats.
    Sense we all know insurance companies are just soo good to us all the time.

    Another waste of taxpayers money. It's not government's job to play Mommy Dearest. Private charities could manage this better... should there be a need because parents are incompetent.
    Oh my god

    trying to take credit of a republican issue again?
    I dont think Susan B Anthony would be a conservative...



    Yeah, look at what Cumo, Clinton and Carter did? Fannie & Freddie. There is nothing wrong with renting... if you do not want or cannot afford to buy a house.
    I forgot anything the government does for the people is just terribly wrong.

    Family farms have been slaughtered due to tax rules... socialist tax rules.
    Get out of FAIRY TALE LAND!
  10. zimmer's Avatar
    Skimmed your bit above quick.

    About Susan B. Anthony:

    It is really no wonder she was a Republican, they have always been on the side of ending slavery, and she was fighting for her Rights under The Constitution. Fit like hand in glove. Don't take my word for it, take her votes at face value and you'll see:
    On November 18, 1872, Anthony was arrested by a U.S. Deputy Marshal for voting illegally in the 1872 Presidential Election two weeks earlier. She had written to Stanton on the night of the election that she had "positively voted the Republican ticket—straight...".

    "Where, under our Declaration of Independence, does the Saxon man get his power to deprive all women and Negroes of their inalienable rights?"

    Susan B. Anthony - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The remainder I'll get to later.

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    Updated 06-14-11 at 01:34 PM by zimmer
  11. TheDemSocialist's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer
    Skimmed your bit above quick.

    About Susan B. Anthony:

    It is really no wonder she was a Republican, they have always been on the side of ending slavery, and she was fighting for her Rights under The Constitution. Fit like hand in glove. Don't take my word for it, take her votes at face value and you'll see:

    The remainder I'll get to later.

    .
    You do realize the Republicans were considered liberal and the Democrats were considered conservative at the time right...
  12. American's Avatar
    Since when was it ordained that the job of government, or any official, to do things for certain people (e.g., workers)? The entire premise is obvious, to paint conservatives in a negative light by presuming the object of government is to benefit "workers" to be true from the start.
  13. zimmer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lpast
    I guess people should work for a buck an hour right zimmer....another words work make someone rich and starve to death in the process....sorry but screwdat...there MUST be a minimum wage to keep the greedy skunks from taking it all
    Yeah... we would see a lot of people lining up for a buck an hour jobs today. Oi vey.

    There need not be an artificial minimum wage. Artificially inflating wages, at some point makes other shores more attractive to invest in.

    If someone is paying below market value, the company or individual will have difficulty finding people, and people to stay with said company. Training and hunting for people would make it cheaper to pay decent workers more... but that is the choice of both employee and employer. Each should be free to choose. I have worked for nothing. For zero... for months... to gain experience... experience that proved hugely profitable later down the line. Warren Buffet offered to work for free too early in his career. As he jokes, the owner said no... the owner (Ben Graham) made a financial analysis and came to the conclusion he would be over paid.

    When wages are artificially increased due to the whim of a Congressman, it makes it more difficult for companies to hire more people. In fact, people lose jobs.

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    Updated 06-30-11 at 04:35 AM by zimmer

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