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The Glenn Beck Boycott Gaining Traction - FOX News Losing Money

Boo Radley said:
I never said they were evil. You really do need to put that play book down. And they themselves claim they have to mark prices up to cover those who can't pay. It's not a secret.

WASHINGTON — The average U.S. family and their employers paid an extra $1,017 in health care premiums last year to compensate for the uninsured, according to a study to be released Thursday by an advocacy group for health care consumers.

Families USA, which supports expanded health care coverage, found that about 37% of health care costs for people without insurance — or a total of $42.7 billion — went unpaid last year. That cost eventually was shifted to the insured through higher premiums, according to the group.

Study: Insured pay 'hidden tax' for uninsured health care - USATODAY.com

More Than 25 Million Americans Underinsured, Study Finds

More than 25 million Americans with health insurance did not have sufficient coverage for their medical expenses in 2007, according to a study released Tuesday in the journal Health Affairs.

Online NewsHour: Analysis | Underinsured Numbers Increase | June 10, 2008 | PBS

Results
Faster growth in health care costs had greater adverse effects on economic outcomes for industries with larger percentages of workers who had ESI. We found that a 10 percent increase in excess growth in health care costs would have resulted in 120,803 fewer jobs, US$28,022 million in lost gross output, and US$14,082 million in lost value added in 2005. These declines represent 0.17 to 0.18 percent of employment, gross output, and value added in 2005.

Conclusions
Excess growth in health care costs is adversely affecting the economic performance of U.S. industries.

RAND | RAND Health | Employer-Sponsored Insurance, Health Care Cost Growth, and the Economic Performance of U.S. Industries
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This is ridiculous and Ground Hog day all over again. i am done with this. You are putting your faith in a govt. that has never done anything effeciently or improved quality. Good luck as you are going to need it.:2wave::2wave:
 
Conservative said:
This is ridiculous and Ground Hog day all over again. i am done with this. You are putting your faith in a govt. that has never done anything effeciently or improved quality. Good luck as you are going to need it.:2wave::2wave:
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In other words, you're willing to accept the high cost of doing nothing, but not in seeking possible solutions. You prefer to stick to stereotyping generalizations than get specific. You're free to do that of course, but it's not convincing. ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
In other words, you're willing to accept the high cost of doing nothing, but not in seeking possible solutions. You prefer to stick to stereotyping generalizations than get specific. You're free to do that of course, but it's not convincing. ;)
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Doing what the govt did is worse than doing nothing. There was a better way to handle the problem and the majority in this country know it. You want so badly to believe what you are told that you bought this POS on the basis that it was a good first step. Spending trillions better be more than a good first step it better solve the problem and it will not.
 
Conservative said:
I know why the borders will not be closed, political. Politicians are more interested in keeping their jobs than doing their jobs. That is exactly what happened here as politicians used the issue to appeal to people like you and you bought their rhetoric while ignoring the content of the message. There is nothing in this bill that lowers what companies pay and in fact will drive up costs to companies. .
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Well while you playing logical hop scotch (and suspect there might be some cheap scotch involved) consider:

In contrast, legalization of low-skilled immigrant workers would yield significant income gains for American workers and households. Legalization would eliminate smugglers' fees and other costs faced by illegal immigrants. It would also allow immigrants to have higher productivity and create more openings for Americans in higherskilled occupations. The positive impact for U.S. households of legalization under an optimal visa tax would be 1.27 percent of GDP or $180 billion.

Restriction or Legalization? Measuring the Economic Benefits of Immigration Reform | Peter B. Dixon and Maureen T. Rimmer | Cato Institute: Trade Policy Analysis
 
Conservative said:
Doing what the govt did is worse than doing nothing. There was a better way to handle the problem and the majority in this country know it. You want so badly to believe what you are told that you bought this POS on the basis that it was a good first step. Spending trillions better be more than a good first step it better solve the problem and it will not.
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I am unconvinced it was better than doing nothing. I would like to see evidence to support your claim. I have laid out for you the problem before reform. It was hurting us long before we attempted anything.

Remember, the CBO says in the long run this will lower the debt. So, there is some reason to consider the possibility, if not accept that as outright fact. ;)
 
winston53660 said:
Well while you playing logical hop scotch (and suspect there might be some cheap scotch involved) consider:

In contrast, legalization of low-skilled immigrant workers would yield significant income gains for American workers and households. Legalization would eliminate smugglers' fees and other costs faced by illegal immigrants. It would also allow immigrants to have higher productivity and create more openings for Americans in higherskilled occupations. The positive impact for U.S. households of legalization under an optimal visa tax would be 1.27 percent of GDP or $180 billion.

Restriction or Legalization? Measuring the Economic Benefits of Immigration Reform | Peter B. Dixon and Maureen T. Rimmer | Cato Institute: Trade Policy Analysis
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I have no problem with legal immigration but what is there now is ILLEGAL, a word that liberals refuse to acknowledge or even us. Instead they use undocumented. This country was built on legal immigration and the rule of law, not just selective laws.
 
Boo Radley said:
I am unconvinced it was better than doing nothing. I would like to see evidence to support your claim. I have laid out for you the problem before reform. It was hurting us long before we attempted anything.

Remember, the CBO says in the long run this will lower the debt. So, there is some reason to consider the possibility, if not accept that as outright fact. ;)
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I asked you but you ignored the accuracy of the CBO especially twenty years out. You are putting too much faith in CBO projections that have a track record of being very inaccurate when projections are beyond 2 years and this bill doesn't go into effect for 4. Why you believe them is beyond me.
 
Conservative said:
I asked you but you ignored the accuracy of the CBO especially twenty years out. You are putting too much faith in CBO projections that have a track record of being very inaccurate when projections are beyond 2 years and this bill doesn't go into effect for 4. Why you believe them is beyond me.
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No, I didn't ignore it. I told you both sides use it, and it does a fairly good job of assessing the information they have. I don't expect perfection, nor should you. What it does do is show that it is possible. As I said before, I suspect more will have to be done before it is probable. That however doesn't mean we scrape the effort.
 
Boo Radley said:
No, I didn't ignore it. I told you both sides use it, and it does a fairly good job of assessing the information they have. I don't expect perfection, nor should you. What it does do is show that it is possible. As I said before, I suspect more will have to be done before it is probable. That however doesn't mean we scrape the effort.
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Both sides use it and both sides are wrong to pass that information provided as fact or what is going to happen. CBO on its own website tells you how accurate they are so I suggest you go there and read for yourself.
 
Confirmed - Glenn Beck has just lost Nestle's. On the bright side for him, his gold commercials are still running. How is that working out for him? Let's find out...............

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Conservative said:
Both sides use it and both sides are wrong to pass that information provided as fact or what is going to happen. CBO on its own website tells you how accurate they are so I suggest you go there and read for yourself.
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I don't think anyone is using it as fact, but as reasonable possibilities. It's far better if they say it's possible than if they say it isn't.
 
danarhea said:
Confirmed - Glenn Beck has just lost Nestle's. On the bright side for him, his gold commercials are still running. How is that working out for him? Let's find out...............

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Why don't you tell me how Beck is doing,

Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, April 28, 2010

5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,262,000 viewers (689,000) (1,060,000)
Situation Room—543,000 viewers (141,000) (268,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 523,000 viewers (122,000) (218,000)
Fast Money – 207,000 viewers (53,000) (91,000)
Showbiz Tonight —181,000 viewers (73,000) (93,000)

Where is that liberal claim of valuing freedom of speech? Seems that you and others love freedom of speech as long as the speech supports your point of view. This Administration and people like you are driving more and more people to Beck and Fox News. Fox News by the way is showing record profits so good luck with the boycott
 
Beck is free to be a nutter. And others are free to call him on it. And just because nutter sells doesn't mean it isn't nutter. :lol: ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
Beck is free to be a nutter. And others are free to call him on it. And just because nutter sells doesn't mean it isn't nutter. :lol: ;)
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Don't watch him and don't buy from his sponsors. Apparently Fox is happy with his ratings and thus what he is bringing to the company. Pointing out daily how many sponsors he has lost or promoting putting him out of business says a lot about liberals. I posted the most recent cable ratings that show over four times the number of viewers as his closest competitor. Looks good to me and if I were his boss that is what I would look at.
 
Conservative said:
Don't watch him and don't buy from his sponsors. Apparently Fox is happy with his ratings and thus what he is bringing to the company. Pointing out daily how many sponsors he has lost or promoting putting him out of business says a lot about liberals. I posted the most recent cable ratings that show over four times the number of viewers as his closest competitor. Looks good to me and if I were his boss that is what I would look at.
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Again, freedom of speech works both ways. People are free to call him what he is. Ratings mean nothing on this subject.
 
Boo Radley said:
Again, freedom of speech works both ways. People are free to call him what he is. Ratings mean nothing on this subject.
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Don't know much about media either I see, ratings mean everything and determine ad rates. People can indeed call him whatever they want as can I and I call him successful.
 
Conservative said:
Don't know much about media either I see, ratings mean everything and determine ad rates. People can indeed call him whatever they want as can I and I call him successful.
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Demographics count too oh wise one.
 
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