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Y'know, china didn't just lie to the u.s.

The only way you know what happened is Xi Jinping told you. Doctors who tried to warn the word arrested, any Facebook page by anyone in Wuhan taken down, reporters banned and refusal to allow inspection of the Wuhan biological virus weapons lab prohibited are what convinces you that he is telling you the truth, correct? Is that what you mean by handling in better - a total blame on information proves that what a dictator for life says?

What I think is the likely truth is that the death count in China from covid-19 is huge - and if it is not then it's not that big of deal because lots and lots of Chinese ignored the quarantine with many videos (until China forced the removed) showed that. Chinese government drones with cameras and speakers trying to get people to put on their masks and go home.

Actually there are and were many facebook pages from people in Wuhan as well as some video documentaries about living there during the lockdown. I doubt that you would be interested in them though because they don't exactly support your story.

Here's one story from someone living there. Novel heroes: Belgian living in Wuhan shares lockdown experience - Chinadaily.com.cn Clearly he's lying though.
 
Ah.......close to fake news then. Ok.

Has any "real news" source that you trust given you the exact text of these cited intelligence reports?
 
Not to mention trying at all costs to keep our relations with China "friendly," and never asking any questions about their manipulation of WHO.

I voted for Hillary in the last election, but now I think she would've mucked up the pandemic in spectacular fashion.

She sent your vote back to the manufacturer.

Check your back mail.

I'm sure you'll find it there. In 2016 CCP Boyz in Beijing wanted ABH: Anyone But Hillary. Same as Putin wanted ABH. Each of 'em got his wish.
 
However, he should have started working on replenishing the national emergency supply stockpile that was drained from back in 2009 during the H1N1 pandemic from the start of his presidency...certainly at least in mid January when real information regarding the Coronavirus was being released.

I wonder if Trump even knew that it was never replenished like it should have been? If he was told in December well that was months if not years too late.

Then no state or any local healthcare facilities even had enough supplies for their workers. These are the people that should have known and been prepared. The ball was not just dropped but kicked around for a decade. Clearly all our healthcare leaders have their heads stuck so far up their backsides this is the results. And why should they care. They were safe and it was naturally the healthcare workers that would get sick not the leaders. Our entire health care from the CDC to the leaders of each and every local hospital was completely unprepared but Trump should have known. Right.

Plus the real kicker is where is the information on these coronaviruses that have been threatening a pandemic for 20 years now. I cannot believe we were so clueless about something so dangerous for so long. Research takes months if not years. Experiments and test take time to find accurate results. No snapping of the fingers will suffice. It can't be done in days or even weeks.
 
Has any "real news" source that you trust given you the exact text of these cited intelligence reports?

US intel does not publicize its intelligence reports to the Potus: the PDB.

If you want to see those reports you'd have to check with the Kremlin which is where Trump sends 'em.

You might get on it soonest before they come back altered.
 
Has any "real news" source that you trust given you the exact text of these cited intelligence reports?

If that's the logic you want to hold the wall again then you win.
 
She sent your vote back to the manufacturer.

Check your back mail.

I'm sure you'll find it there. In 2016 CCP Boyz in Beijing wanted ABH: Anyone But Hillary. Same as Putin wanted ABH. Each of 'em got his wish.

Enjoy your simplistic delusion, if you can.
 
US intel does not publicize its intelligence reports to the Potus: the PDB.

If you want to see those reports you'd have to check with the Kremlin which is where Trump sends 'em.

You might get on it soonest before they come back altered.

Trump has recently stated that the intelligence reports did not warn of the virus's true abilities, as a counter to the baseless assumption that they did so. Thus he may have every motive to declassify them soonest, and then, we shall see.
 
If that's the logic you want to hold the wall again then you win.

So it's "logical" to depend on hearsay regarding what the reports supposedly said?
 
So it's "logical" to depend on hearsay regarding what the reports supposedly said?

You're right. Let's just continue to say it never happened.
 
I was in Europe when the virus first hit. Europeans knew way back in February this was killing people. French news was on top of infected people both famous and otherwise. There were Iranians on my flight entirely covered in plastic.

Anyone claiming Trump couldn't have done anything back then and didn't know what I knew by simply being in Europe is a fool.

This thing was killing people at a rate so fast the Chinese had no choice but to report it to someone.


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Enjoy your simplistic delusion, if you can.

Au contraire mon ami, I was my usual concise self in the post. Anybody But (Name) is a regular reality in politics and elections at all levels.






Trump has recently stated that the intelligence reports did not warn of the virus's true abilities, as a counter to the baseless assumption that they did so. Thus he may have every motive to declassify them soonest, and then, we shall see.

You forgot to blow out the wish candles on your Trump angel cake special.
 
For those on the left who think this virus is a serious threat, I guess you're so happy that it was Trump in the whitehouse and not anyone from your side, after all, if we went by ANY of the leftwing gov't officials or medical officials, we'd all be dead now.

But then there is the cognitive dissonance thing, so I guess not. It was Nancy telling the president to close the border in December and of course he ignored her, it was Faucci telling the president how serious the virus was and Trump saying, nah, let's open up in late January. It was Cuomo saying close everything down in early March when Trump was telling seniors to go about their business and to come party in Chinatown and go to theatres.

Revised history is so much fun.


It's impossible to figure out how many people Trump's reaction saved, but if you're a leftist, then you must believe it is in the millions. If you're like me, I don't think he saved any, cuz the virus is less deadly than the flu for the majority of the population, and those that really need to be protected from this thing, the elderly, were not as governors locked them in with the virus and killed them.

I'm still waiting for the left to worship at Trumps feet for his response on this. But that's too much to ask, their ability to believe in the exact opposite of what happened is uncanny, I'm jealous of that kind of cognitive ability.
 
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I was in Europe when the virus first hit. Europeans knew way back in February this was killing people. French news was on top of infected people both famous and otherwise. There were Iranians on my flight entirely covered in plastic.

Anyone claiming Trump couldn't have done anything back then and didn't know what I knew by simply being in Europe is a fool.

This thing was killing people at a rate so fast the Chinese had no choice but to report it to someone.


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They did a really good job of keeping a lid on it for close to a full month, not least by jailing Li Wenliang, the whistleblower.
 
Au contraire mon ami, I was my usual concise self in the post. Anybody But (Name) is a regular reality in politics and elections at all levels.








You forgot to blow out the wish candles on your Trump angel cake special.

Simplistic is not the same as concise.

I don't trust either side to give the full truth, but the Dems used to try to back up their claims with evidence. Not no more, no how.
 
Simplistic is not the same as concise.

I don't trust either side to give the full truth, but the Dems used to try to back up their claims with evidence. Not no more, no how.

Trump uses rope a dope.

With enormous success as we see.

That's after he's used up the last of the clorox.

It's that simple and concise. Or didn't you know. :)
 
They did a really good job of keeping a lid on it for close to a full month, not least by jailing Li Wenliang, the whistleblower.
Your focus on the Chinese does not negate that Trump knew this was going to kill people by at least hundreds at best and kept telling everyone it would be around 15.

We are now at 70k.

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Trump uses rope a dope.

With enormous success as we see.

That's after he's used up the last of the clorox.

It's that simple and concise. Or didn't you know. :)

Like I said, no interest in evidence.
 
Your focus on the Chinese does not negate that Trump knew this was going to kill people by at least hundreds at best and kept telling everyone it would be around 15.

We are now at 70k.

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That's true, he absolutely should have started a panic without adequate evidence, rather than giving the best case scenario to keep things calm.

To get back to the thread's subject, we will never know what he or any other world leader might have done better, if the damn Communists had shown a modicum of humanity.
 
Like I said, no interest in evidence.

Each time you guys are presented with evidence your next post demands to see the evidence. :lamo

Rinse and Repeat.

Which means you people are not serious. The only thing that matters to y'all is Making America Russia Instead.

That's it and by any means no matter how long it will take.

Busted.
 
That's true, he absolutely should have started a panic without adequate evidence,

There were 3 thousand deaths on February 28. Would preparing for the virus at that point have been 'creating a panic'? Is that what people do when they're informed that the government is dealing with a deadly disease? Is that what happened under Obama? Lol he told people about ebola than did nothing cause he didn't want to cause a panic'?

If you live in Alabama, and I tell you of a hurricane currently in Florida, do you go into panic mode? Is that how this all works?

You're being a goofball all so you can defend Trump.

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