George Soros Funded Journalist: "The coronavirus crisis shows it's time to abolish the family"

truthatallcost · Apr 4, 2020

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Nickyjo said:
And he killed Gypsies and homosexuals for what reason? Aside from that, he was a great humanitarian, vegetarian, dog lover, etc.

For one thing, the NSDAP were primarily concerned with eliminating their political enemies, in the same way that Russian Bolsheviks had been from 1917 onwards. When Russia massacred 50,000 Muslims in Crimea, or millions of Christians in Ukraine, these were framed by historians as political purges. Yet they targeted specific ethnic groups and religious groups with genocide. Muslims and Christians resisted the communist revolution, and jews, homosexuals, and Roma people resisted national socialism.
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Hitler was the original hipster, with his vegetarian diet, love of animals, eccentric fashion, and drug intake. :lol:

truthatallcost · Apr 4, 2020

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Fledermaus said:
Citation?

It's taken from a speech given by Hitler, and Albert Speer also confirmed that this was said in private when Hitler addressed his inner circle.

Fledermaus · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
It's taken from a speech given by Hitler, and Albert Speer also confirmed that this was said in private when Hitler addressed his inner circle.

So, no citation.

MSU again?

Fledermaus · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
For one thing, the NSDAP were primarily concerned with eliminating their political enemies, in the same way that Russian Bolsheviks had been from 1917 onwards. When Russia massacred 50,000 Muslims in Crimea, or millions of Christians in Ukraine, these were framed by historians as political purges. Yet they targeted specific ethnic groups and religious groups with genocide. Muslims and Christians resisted the communist revolution, and jews, homosexuals, and Roma people resisted national socialism.
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Hitler was the original hipster, with his vegetarian diet, love of animals, eccentric fashion, and drug intake. :lol:

The Roma?

The Homosexuals?

The Jews?

The Slavs?

They were all "political enemies" deserving liquidation?

Casper · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
Open Democracy' biggest funder is none other than George Soros. I've heard of some bizarre ideas being funding by Gyorgy Schwartz (Soros' real name), but abolition of the family? Every 'crazy right wing conspiracy theory' about Soros is true. He really is the evil, scheming anti-Christ that he's credited as being. Abolishing nuclear families is a communist idea.

A person with a glass half empty when it comes to our fellow citizens. I disagree with their opinion

Tigerace117 · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
My favorite joke about WW2: The British say that had they lost the war, they'd be speaking a foreign language now. Well, they won the war, and they speak 37 foreign languages instead!

Actually, the idiots have stopped using the 'we would be speaking German now' phrase, because they realize how stupid that sounds. Yes, we defeated the one country that was hell-bent on destroying Communism, and the legacy of Karl Marx. Woohoo. Cultural Marxism now permeates every aspect of life in the west. And you complain about how much you dislike paying taxes while funding cultural Marxism to the hilt! That's so funny. Pay those illegal Honduran students tuition Fled.

We defeated the one country which was hell bent on mass murdering millions of innocent civilians.

You seem to have forgotten that part.

Oh wait :roll:

truthatallcost · Apr 4, 2020

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Fledermaus said:
So, no citation.

MSU again?

"Today I will once more be a prophet. If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth and this the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!”

—Speech to the Reichstag
January 30, 1941

Hitler's Threats Against the Jews (1941-1945)

Tigerace117 · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
Hitler did restore the glory of his nation's past, albeit briefly. Hitler said that the holocaust was payback for outside intervention in Germany's affairs, and said that jews would only be killed if international finance funded a war against Germany. Well, we know how that played out; investment bankers never met a war they didn't like. Hitler erred badly in assuming the bankers cared about lower and middle class jews.

Hitler utterly disgraced Germany, destroying everything decent about it to fuel his deluded fantasies and mass murdering millions upon millions of innocent people in the process.

The idea that the Holocaust was “payback” for “international finance funding a war against Germany” is A) utterly disgusting and B) laughably false. First and foremost, no one was obligated to allow Hitler to roll in and conquer any nation(Czechoslovakia, Poland, Netherlands, Norway, Belgium.....the list goes on and on). If your heroes didn’t want to war a war(which they desperately did) then they shouldn’t have brutally invaded their neighbors.

Tigerace117 · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
"Today I will once more be a prophet. If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth and this the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!”

—Speech to the Reichstag
January 30, 1941

Hitler's Threats Against the Jews (1941-1945)

Spoken well after he had already started a world war and invaded most of Western Europe.

truthatallcost · Apr 4, 2020

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Tigerace117 said:
We defeated the one country which was hell bent on mass murdering millions of innocent civilians.

You seem to have forgotten that part.

Oh wait :roll:

Because its nonsense. Russia too murdered millions of innocent civilians, and we didn't bother a single precious hair on Stalin's ape-like head.

truthatallcost · Apr 4, 2020

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Fledermaus said:
The Roma?

The Homosexuals?

The Jews?

The Slavs?

They were all "political enemies" deserving liquidation?

To an equal extent as Crimean Tartars, cossacks, Ukrainian farmers, etc.

Nickyjo · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
My favorite joke about WW2: The British say that had they lost the war, they'd be speaking a foreign language now. Well, they won the war, and they speak 37 foreign languages instead!

++ You have a problem with the British empire? “We are here because you were there,” say immigrants to the UK.

Actually, the idiots have stopped using the 'we would be speaking German now' phrase, because they realize how stupid that sounds. Yes, we defeated the one country that was hell-bent on destroying Communism, and the legacy of Karl Marx. Woohoo. Cultural Marxism now permeates every aspect of life in the west. And you complain about how much you dislike paying taxes while funding cultural Marxism to the hilt! That's so funny. Pay those illegal Honduran students tuition Fled.

++ What, pray, is cultural Marxism? Is it Groucho, Harpo, et al.? Or something subversive like Schindler’s List? Degenerate modern art the Nazi’s condemned? Elvis? Illegal Scandinavian students?

Tigerace117 · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
Because its nonsense. Russia too murdered millions of innocent civilians, and we didn't bother a single precious hair on Stalin's ape-like head.

Russia didn’t overrun most of Europe, round up millions of people, both from their own country and those they conquered—-including numerous children—and mass murder them.

The desperate whataboutism is rather laughable....especially considering that most of Hitler’s killings were committed in Eastern Europe and during his attempt to invade the Soviet Union.

Which, of course, ended with General Zhukov crushing the throat of your heroes and your idol Adolf blowing his brains out.

Nickyjo · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
For one thing, the NSDAP were primarily concerned with eliminating their political enemies, in the same way that Russian Bolsheviks had been from 1917 onwards. When Russia massacred 50,000 Muslims in Crimea, or millions of Christians in Ukraine, these were framed by historians as political purges. Yet they targeted specific ethnic groups and religious groups with genocide. Muslims and Christians resisted the communist revolution, and jews, homosexuals, and Roma people resisted national socialism.

++ Obviously they had it coming. Roma and homosexuals resisted national socialism? Or do you mean homosexual Roma? And strangely, thru a couple of messages, you capitalize Muslims, Christians, Roma, etc., but seem to have a problem with your shift me when it comes to our Jewish brethren. And Hitler killed Christians whose faith had them challenge fascism.

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Hitler was the original hipster, with his vegetarian diet, love of animals, eccentric fashion, and drug intake. :lol:

++ Yeah, he would have been real popular in Greenwich Village and the Haight-Ashbury back in the day.

Nickyjo · Apr 4, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
To an equal extent as Crimean Tartars, cossacks, Ukrainian farmers, etc.

Great! We now agree that Hitler and Stalin were both assholes. Other than that, what’s your point?

truthatallcost · Apr 5, 2020

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Tigerace117 said:
Hitler utterly disgraced Germany, destroying everything decent about it to fuel his deluded fantasies and mass murdering millions upon millions of innocent people in the process.

That's what I was taught in school too Tigerace. But then a Muslim friend of mine gave me a book to read, and I did. The book was written by an American, and it exposed the history of communism that I'd never heard before. I'd seen the Che Guevara t shirts on campus, and had a roommate who had the hammer and sickle flag, but this book blew my mind. It chronicled the foundations of communism, and the 80 million victims of communism. It also demonstrated the many lies and errors that had been told about Germany, and painted a clear picture of the true goal of the NSDAP regime, which was to eradicate communism from Europe.

The idea that the Holocaust was “payback” for “international finance funding a war against Germany” is A) utterly disgusting and B) laughably false. First and foremost, no one was obligated to allow Hitler to roll in and conquer any nation(Czechoslovakia, Poland, Netherlands, Norway, Belgium.....the list goes on and on). If your heroes didn’t want to war a war(which they desperately did) then they shouldn’t have brutally invaded their neighbors.

They also liberated Finland and Poland from Soviet occupation, helped Spain defeat communism, and worked at stamping out the exploitation of the German people.

marke · Apr 5, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
Open Democracy' biggest funder is none other than George Soros. I've heard of some bizarre ideas being funding by Gyorgy Schwartz (Soros' real name), but abolition of the family? Every 'crazy right wing conspiracy theory' about Soros is true. He really is the evil, scheming anti-Christ that he's credited as being. Abolishing nuclear families is a communist idea.

Soros does not invest in just the US. He has operations in many nations around the world with common goals such as the destruction of the family, the degeneration of society, the destruction of capitalism, the forced rejection of God and so forth. He is an evil man who is clearly under the influence of Satan.

truthatallcost · Apr 5, 2020

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Nickyjo said:
++ What, pray, is cultural Marxism? Is it Groucho, Harpo, et al.? Or something subversive like Schindler’s List? Degenerate modern art the Nazi’s condemned? Elvis? Illegal Scandinavian students?

I prefer the term racial Marxism, but that is too difficult for people to understand. The concept of racial Marxism was first explored by one of Marx' followers, Moses Hess. It's essentially the belief that racial identity politics should be the center of a scheme to right the wrongs of history.

Moses Hess - Wikipedia

Tigerace117 · Apr 5, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
That's what I was taught in school too Tigerace. But then a Muslim friend of mine gave me a book to read, and I did. The book was written by an American, and it exposed the history of communism that I'd never heard before. I'd seen the Che Guevara t shirts on campus, and had a roommate who had the hammer and sickle flag, but this book blew my mind. It chronicled the foundations of communism, and the 80 million victims of communism. It also demonstrated the many lies and errors that had been told about Germany, and painted a clear picture of the true goal of the NSDAP regime, which was to eradicate communism from Europe.

They also liberated Finland and Poland from Soviet occupation, helped Spain defeat communism, and worked at stamping out the exploitation of the German people.

“Liberated”

One would have to be pretty freaking ignorant to describe what the Nazis did in Poland as “liberation”.

They slaughtered the Poles in huge numbers, basically enslaved many of the survivors, and routinely committed horrific atrocities.

As for Finland, the bulk of the country was not occupied by the Soviets to begin with, so claiming the Nazis “liberated” them is also laughable.

Spain got to enjoy a couple decades of brutal fascist dictatorship thanks to the Nazi thugs.

The Nazis exploited the **** out of the German people to fuel their war machine.

So in other words you read a lot of garbage and you fell into it because it told you that it was all the fault of the minorities, especially the Jews, that you weren’t succeeding at life.....and like so many other SS fanboys you ate that **** right up.

truthatallcost · Apr 5, 2020

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Tigerace117 said:
Russia didn’t overrun most of Europe, round up millions of people, both from their own country and those they conquered—-including numerous children—and mass murder them.

They didn't need to- they were murdering ethnic German children in 1938, before the holocaust had even begun.

The desperate whataboutism is rather laughable....especially considering that most of Hitler’s killings were committed in Eastern Europe and during his attempt to invade the Soviet Union.

I'm not desperate for you to believe anything Tiger. You can believe that Hitler was bad, and Stalin wasn't, based upon some ridiculous hierarchy for placing higher value on Hitler's victims than Stalin's, thus committing the same prejudice based on race/ethnicty that Hitler did. How ridiculous do you want to be tiger? It's your business, not mine.

Which, of course, ended with General Zhukov crushing the throat of your heroes and your idol Adolf blowing his brains out.

Stalin then stripped Zhukov of his position, and remanded him to menial tasks. Now that's true communism!

We don't have any proof that Hitler committed suicide. I'm not going to say that he didn't, but there's nothing definitive that proves the story is true.

Tigerace117 · Apr 5, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
They didn't need to- they were murdering ethnic German children in 1938, before the holocaust had even begun.

I'm not desperate for you to believe anything Tiger. You can believe that Hitler was bad, and Stalin wasn't, based upon some ridiculous hierarchy for placing higher value on Hitler's victims than Stalin's, thus committing the same prejudice based on race/ethnicty that Hitler did. How ridiculous do you want to be tiger? It's your business, not mine.

Stalin then stripped Zhukov of his position, and remanded him to menial tasks. Now that's true communism!

We don't have any proof that Hitler committed suicide. I'm not going to say that he didn't, but there's nothing definitive that proves the story is true.

We have a ton of proof that Hitler committed suicide, and no actual credible evidence that he didn’t. Your hero shot himself to avoid having to pay for his crimes.

Ah yes, another one of your claims that’s right up there with “Hitler liberated Poland” in terms of absurdity.

Please provide the exact spot that I said Stalin wasn’t bad. I simply pointed out that Hitler was worse....which he was.

Which ended with Zhukov winding up right back in his old position for years before retiring and living a long and peaceful life.

Nickyjo · Apr 5, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
I prefer the term racial Marxism, but that is too difficult for people to understand. The concept of racial Marxism was first explored by one of Marx' followers, Moses Hess. It's essentially the belief that racial identity politics should be the center of a scheme to right the wrongs of history.

Moses Hess - Wikipedia

Racial identity politics have been around in the US since 1619 when the first slaves arrived, and continued for 100 years after emancipation, both preached by white folk. Their recent emergence on the left, among minorities and women activists can be annoying and create problems unnecessarily, but will indeed right some of the wrongs of history, albeit in a limited way. It will fade eventually, perhaps likely to be replaced by class identity politics, much milder than in other countries where class is more acknowledged. Concerns about the 1% are part of it, and in a perverse way, so was the Reagan/Trump appeal to working class whites.

truthatallcost · Apr 5, 2020

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Nickyjo said:
Racial identity politics have been around in the US since 1619 when the first slaves arrived, and continued for 100 years after emancipation, both preached by white folk.

That's not what racial identity politics are. You need to educate yourself.

Identity politics - Wikipedia

Their recent emergence on the left, among minorities and women activists can be annoying and create problems unnecessarily, but will indeed right some of the wrongs of history, albeit in a limited way.

No, left wing identity politics will only sow discord and resentment, and possibly retribution for blaming living white Americans for the injustices committed by dead white people. Forcing equality of outcome on society doesn't lift minorities out of poverty and even the playing field, it just promotes unqualified minorities into positions they shouldn't hold, while demoting qualified people, resulting in lower standards. The Latino train engineer who tried to ram a military hospital ship because he thought it was a foreign ship invading the US springs to mind.

It will fade eventually, perhaps likely to be replaced by class identity politics, much milder than in other countries where class is more acknowledged. Concerns about the 1% are part of it, and in a perverse way, so was the Reagan/Trump appeal to working class whites.

Class identity politics are better known as Marxism.

Tigerace117 · Apr 5, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
That's not what racial identity politics are. You need to educate yourself.

Identity politics - Wikipedia

No, left wing identity politics will only sow discord and resentment, and possibly retribution for blaming living white Americans for the injustices committed by dead white people. Forcing equality of outcome on society doesn't lift minorities out of poverty and even the playing field, it just promotes unqualified minorities into positions they shouldn't hold, while demoting qualified people, resulting in lower standards. The Latino train engineer who tried to ram a military hospital ship because he thought it was a foreign ship invading the US springs to mind.

Class identity politics are better known as Marxism.

Considering you literally claimed Hitler “ liberated” Poland.....you have no room to try and accuse anyone else, even nutjobs, of being “unqualified”.

Nickyjo · Apr 5, 2020

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truthatallcost said:
That's not what racial identity politics are. You need to educate yourself.

Identity politics - Wikipedia

++ Your link’s first paragraph resembles a description of the justification of segregation, identity politics with a different name. Prohibition of interracial marriage was justified by bigots to prevent the “mongrelization” of the white race. Can’t get closer to identity politics than that. And slavers didn’t go to Finland to find cotton pickers to send to Alabama.

No, left wing identity politics will only sow discord and resentment, and possibly retribution for blaming living white Americans for the injustices committed by dead white people. Forcing equality of outcome on society doesn't lift minorities out of poverty and even the playing field, it just promotes unqualified minorities into positions they shouldn't hold, while demoting qualified people, resulting in lower standards. The Latino train engineer who tried to ram a military hospital ship because he thought it was a foreign ship invading the US springs to mind.

++ That’s it? A crazy Latino engineer? That’s all you got? I used to work in the civil rights field, and we would laugh at the notion of promotion of someone solely because of their race. It’s illegal, even if practiced in good faith by clueless supervisors. Identity politics can be annoying, especially when we find ourselves arguing over pronouns, but movements and activism often produce silliness, dating back to the French Revolutionaries who changed the names of months. But it is not wrong to honor the past negative experiences of oppressive treatment. I have been in work situations where women in the office needed to gather separately from the guys to talk about say, an office atmosphere they found sexist.

Class identity politics are better known as Marxism.

++ Hardly true. When Trump’s rich friends were pushing for the recent tax cuts favoring them, permanent ones for corporations, temporary for people, they were practicing class identity politics, not Marxism. When middle class folks like myself push for mortgage interest deductions, a subsidy to me unavailable to poorer renters, we are pushing middle class identity politics, not Das Kapital. When poor people advocate for food stamps, or recently for a lower rate loans to fight economic losses due to the virus, they are pushing poorer class identity politics. Nothing new here. “Class,” however, remains a forbidden word in US politics. And the forbidders have cried “Marxism” when someone uses it