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What Makes Chris Matthews' Latest Comments So Sickening

Franco was not remotely a “hero”.

“ From the very beginning of World War II, Spain favoured the Axis Powers. Apart from ideology, Spain had a debt to Germany of $212 million for supplies of matériel during the Civil War. Indeed, in June 1940, after the Fall of France, the Spanish Ambassador to Berlin had presented a memorandum in which Franco declared he was "ready under certain conditions to enter the war on the side of Germany and Italy". Franco had cautiously decided to enter the war on the Axis side in June 1940, and to prepare his people for war, an anti-British and anti-French campaign was launched in the Spanish media that demanded French Morocco, Cameroon and the return of Gibraltar.[5] On 19 June 1940, Franco pressed along a message to Hitler saying he wanted to enter the war, but Hitler was annoyed at Franco's demand for the French colony of Cameroon, which had been German before World War I, and which Hitler was planning on taking back.[6]

“As long as Spain permitted it, the Abwehr – the German intelligence organisation – was able to operate in Spain and Spanish Morocco, often with cooperation of the Nationalist government. Gibraltar's installations were a prime target for sabotage, using sympathetic anti-British Spanish workers. One such attack occurred in June 1943, when a bomb caused a fire and explosions in the dockyard. The British were generally more successful after this and managed to use turned agents and sympathetic anti-Fascist Spaniards to uncover subsequent attacks. A total of 43 sabotage attempts were prevented in this way. By January 1944, a Gibraltarian and two Spanish workers, convicted of attempted sabotage, had been executed.[26]
The Abwehr also financed, trained and equipped saboteurs to attack British naval assets. The Germans contacted a Spanish staff officer from Campo de Gibraltar, Lieutenant Colonel Eleuterio Sánchez Rubio, a Spanish army officer, member of the Falange and coordinator of the intelligence operations in the Campo,[27] to establish a network of saboteurs with access to Gibraltar. Sánchez Rubio designated Emilio Plazas Tejera, also a member of Falange, as operations chief of the organisation.[28] The Spanish agents sank the armed trawler HMT Erin, and destroyed the auxiliary minesweeper HMT Honju, which resulted in the deaths of six British seamen on 18 January 1942.[29][30][31] Plazas was assisted by the Spanish naval commander of Puente Mayorga, Manuel Romero Hume, who allowed him to beach a rowboat there.[26]

The Abwehr also maintained observation posts along both sides of the Straits of Gibraltar, reporting on shipping movements. A German agent in Cádiz was the target of a successful Allied disinformation operation, Operation Mincemeat, prior to the invasion of Sicily in 1943”

“ Despite lacking cash, oil and other supplies, Francoist Spain was able to supply some essential materials to Germany. There was a series of secret war-time trade agreements between the two countries. The principal resource was wolfram (or tungsten) ore from German-owned mines in Spain. Tungsten was essential to Germany for its advanced precision engineering and therefore for armament production. Despite Allied attempts to buy all available supplies, which rocketed in price, and diplomatic efforts to influence Spain, supplies to Germany continued until August 1944.

Payment for wolfram was effectively set against the Spanish debt to Germany. Other minerals included iron ore, zinc, lead and mercury. Spain also acted as a conduit for goods from South America, for example, industrial diamonds and platinum. After the war, evidence was found of significant gold transactions between Germany and Spain, ceasing only in May 1945. It was believed that these were derived from Nazi looting of occupied lands, but attempts by the Allies to obtain control of the gold and return it were largely frustrated.”

Spain during World War II - Wikipedia

Yeah, so what?

He stopped communism in Spain and became a founding NATO member. Communism was always the bigger threat then Germany. Sweden and Finland were practically Nazi allies for all intents and purposes.

Germany was defeated, and that was right, but the tragedy was we didn’t take advantage of our war footing to crush the USSR
 
Yeah, so what?

He stopped communism in Spain and became a founding NATO member. Communism was always the bigger threat then Germany. Sweden and Finland were practically Nazi allies for all intents and purposes.

So he actively assisted the Nazis as much as he was humanly able and fully planned on entering the war to help them, with only his sheer greed preventing him from doing so.

And no, he was not a “founding NATO member”....the Allies knew full well about his actions to aid Hitler and weren’t amused. Spain was only allowed to join NATO and the international community after it had conducted significant reforms.

Finland was more of a co-belligerent rather than an ally.....a rather important difference. They refused to assist further Nazi strikes far deeper into the USSR than their pre Winter War border. The Swedes, like your hero, supplied the Nazis with raw materials, but unlike Franco they also provided safe haven for resistance operatives after striking Nazi outposts in Norway.

There’s a reason plenty of people who thought like you were imprisoned for the duration and only released after fascism had been stamped out.
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?




Matthews NEVER mentioned Nazism or Hitler. Rather, Germany overrunning France was the greatest military upset surprise on national scale in modern history.

Doesn't Bernie Sanders realize than many, many parents and grandparents of American citizens were murdered by Castro? How could Sanders go on such a tirade of how-dare-anyone-not-praise-Castro and embarrass himself in front of the nation. Is he even aware what Castro murdered many relatives of Cuban Americans? Oh that's right, they don't count to a white segregationist like old white Bernie Sanders. Only HIS relatives matter. Everyone else's can be murdered IF non-white in his book.

Besides, as Bernie Sanders would explain, both Castro and Hitler had some great social programs - free childcare, unemployment insurance, old age economic protection, free drug addiction programs. He just wanted to institute these wonderful programs for people in other countries. In fact, what Sanders promises is what Castro, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao promised. So did the "Democratic Socialists" who destroyed Venezuela to the point now of mass starvation ala Bernie Sander's Democratic Socialism promises. That is the revolution he wants. To totally destroy the US economy to cause a revolution. Murder a few tens of millions of Americans and they will come to accept the exist solely to serve the state - meaning him.

According to Sanders, things like mass murder aren't what matters anyway. It only matters if the person did something good in their lives. I bet he'd assure you that the 9-11 attackers did some good things in their lives too. So Castro, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the 9-11 attackers - everyone - all should be remembered and spoken of fondly. I confident Sanders will keep explaining this about Castro, Mao, Stalin, Hitler etc.
 
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Matthews NEVER mentioned Nazism or Hitler. Rather, Germany overrunning France was the greatest military upset surprise on national scale in modern history.

Doesn't Bernie Sanders realize than many, many parents and grandparents of American citizens were murdered by Castro? How could Sanders go on such a tirade of how-dare-anyone-not-praise-Castro and embarrass himself in front of the nation. Is he even aware what Castro murdered many relatives of Cuban Americans? Oh that's right, they don't count to a white segregationist like old white Bernie Sanders. Only HIS relatives matter. Everyone else's can be murdered IF non-white in his book.

Besides, as Bernie Sanders would explain, both Castro and Hitler had some great social programs - free childcare, unemployment insurance, old age economic protection, free drug addiction programs. He just wanted to institute these wonderful programs for people in other countries. In fact, what Sanders promises is what Castro, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao promised. So did the "Democratic Socialists" who destroyed Venezuela to the point now of mass starvation ala Bernie Sander's Democratic Socialism promises. That is the revolution he wants. To totally destroy the US economy to cause a revolution. Murder a few tens of millions of Americans and they will come to accept the exist solely to serve the state - meaning him.

According to Sanders, things like mass murder aren't what matters anyway. It only matters if the person did something good in their lives. I bet he'd assure you that the 9-11 attackers did some good things in their lives too. So Castro, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the 9-11 attackers - everyone - all should be remembered and spoken of fondly. I confident Sanders will keep explaining this about Castro, Mao, Stalin, Hitler etc.

Joko, my Grandfather is an old Union democrat guy, he thinks Fidel Castro is actually a good guy, you know what these people say?

That everyone killed by Castro deserved it. They will
Argue that communist purges are justified because the revolution must be protected from reactionaries. They deny Castro did anything wrong!

Remember the aftermath of the Vietnam war? The democrats because of their sympathy for communism were very hateful towards Vietnamese refugees, a Democrat congresswoman even called many honorable Vietnamese immigrants war criminals by name.

They literally believe if you were purged by commies you needed killing!
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?

He's a relic of the past. I've loved to hate him since the W. Bush administration. He's the only pundit I recall burping and farting on live TV. He's one misogynistic comment away from following in the footsteps of Don Imus and Micheal Savage.
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?




Chris Matthews is as unhinged as Donald Trump is.
 
Have you seen his other comments about Bernie's primary wins on MSNBC? The guy is hysterical over it. He talked about Central Park shooting squads just last week. When confronted by Chris Hayes with, 'of course Bernie doesn't support that type of socialism' he responded with, 'how are you so sure?' The guy is using the Nazis and Soviets to scare the Democratic Base that watches MSNBC. It is disingenuous and very inappropriate in context.

Well, those comments were about Castro, not the Nazis, and the statement was that Bernie said good things about Castro while Castro would have had Matthews shot... which is true if Matthews opposed Castro's dictatorship.

Or are you saying that Sanders would be horribly offended by being equated to a Communist? Because that certainly would be a change for him...
 
Unaware of the apology from last night. I give Matthews credit for stepping up and apologizing to Bernie.

Maybe now they can tone down the rhetoric? I really don't mind criticizing Sanders (heck, I've done it myself) but they should stick to the issues, not hyperbolic analogies and misguided labeling.

I used to enjoy Matthews years ago, but he's turned into a blinded by hate never Trumper. That being said, it was an analogy comparing an overwhelming political defeat to an overwhelming military defeat. I could make an analogy comparing a Mike Tyson knockout to the political defeat above. Even though one is a convicted rapist and violent felon, and the other a politician, the analogy would still be appropriate. Or would you infer that statement to mean I'm calling Sanders a rapist and violent felon? See what I'm getting at? I don't believe that was Matthews intent. JMHO
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?




Everyone misspeaks, even Donald Trump has done so (many hundreds of times); so why single out Chris Matthews, and excuse The President?
 
I didn't find anything terribly offensive in the remarks by Mathews. A contorted analogy to be sure, but I understood his overall gist well enough.

I consider Bernie too far left for my taste. But this election is too important to leave to chance. Trump has to go.

If Bernie wins the convention nomination, then I'll vote for Bernie. If Buttigieg gets the nomination, then I'll vote for Buttigieg, etc. etc. etc.

I personally believe the Democrats may come to regret the anything-goes manner in which a candidate is chosen. In the end, they are all wounded and bleeding.

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Everyone misspeaks, even Donald Trump has done so (many hundreds of times); so why single out Chris Matthews, and excuse The President?

So by pointing out someone else's poorly thought-out words I am somehow excusing Trump's idiocy? How does that make sense? Have you read my thoughts on Trump? :lol:
 
Well, those comments were about Castro, not the Nazis, and the statement was that Bernie said good things about Castro while Castro would have had Matthews shot... which is true if Matthews opposed Castro's dictatorship.

Or are you saying that Sanders would be horribly offended by being equated to a Communist? Because that certainly would be a change for him...

Sanders said good things about Cuba's literacy program and denounces Cuba's authoritarian regime. He has done so many times. Meanwhile, your Dear Leader defends MBS over the murder and dismemberment of a journalist.
 
Unaware of the apology from last night. I give Matthews credit for stepping up and apologizing to Bernie.

Maybe now they can tone down the rhetoric? I really don't mind criticizing Sanders (heck, I've done it myself) but they should stick to the issues, not hyperbolic analogies and misguided labeling.

Matthews is a dirt bag. His apology means nothing.
 
Well that and some heavy handed reactionaries killing off the Stupid commies too. Like Hero General Francisco Franco, but even Charles De Gaulle was functionally a dictator. I have heard it alleged that names of communists French resistance leaders were given to the SS so they would be taken away and shot before we retook france

Of course you would be a fan of Franco. :roll:
 
Of course you would be a fan of Franco. :roll:

I’m a fan of people who defend good honest normal people against violent thugs.

The reds were terrible thugs and the Republicans were little pansies who didn’t want to bring the reds to heel
 
I’m a fan of people who defend good honest normal people against violent thugs.

The reds were terrible thugs and the Republicans were little pansies who didn’t want to bring the reds to heel

Hitler murdered lots of communists. Shall I assume you are part of the Hitler fanclub, too?
 
Lol you people are so pathetic.

First off Sanders is a raging anti-semite. He doesn’t get to wave the Jew Card,

Ah yes, oppose the policies of the Israeli State and you are branded an anti-semite. What a pathetic 'argument' you make.


second you miss the entire point.

He ended his point with, 'James Carville was right...' We all know exactly what he's trying to do.
 
Matthews is a dirt bag. His apology means nothing.

Very likely it was not genuine, but I like to give most people the benefit of the doubt, unless they're straight up narcissists.
 
Hitler murdered lots of communists. Shall I assume you are part of the Hitler fanclub, too?

No, Hitler might as well have been a communist for all I’m concerned. His ideology came from the same poison well as communism, and that was modernity
 
Republicans and Matthews have reached full stupid.

Sanders the Jewish candidate is now antisemite.

I don't like him either, but antisemite?

Nutbags.

Я Баба Яга [emoji328]
 
Republicans and Matthews have reached full stupid.

Sanders the Jewish candidate is now antisemite.

I don't like him either, but antisemite?

Nutbags.

Я Баба Яга [emoji328]

With someone as sharp as Maddow on their team, why they still give that idiot airtime on major events is beyond me.
 
Bernie is not a Zionist... therefore he is an anti-semite! You can't make this **** up! :lamo

Clearly you read the title an moved on. Are you kidding me?
 
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