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What Makes Chris Matthews' Latest Comments So Sickening

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Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?


 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?



I just don't understand why you don't approve of Matthews comment? I mean he says stupid stuff all the time that you dems support. Oh, yeah but those are ok if it is about a Republican.
 
I just don't understand why you don't approve of Matthews comment? I mean he says stupid stuff all the time that you dems support. Oh, yeah but those are ok if it is about a Republican.

Which Dems are you talking about? Bernie's supporters are notorious for hating on the corporate media. Just ask any of the talking heads/pundits about the hate mail they get.
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?




What did he say that you find troubling, Geoist? He was making an analogy to the French being overwhelmed with combined and coordinated air and armored tactics of the Germans, i.e. "Blitzkrieg," which cut the French Army to pieces. The French had trained to re-fight another First World War. The Germans had learned different lessons, and were able to defeat a numerically superior opponent with newly-developed superior combined arms tactics. He was saying that the Democratic Party establishment and its favored candidates, like the French, were overwhelmed and realized too late that they had lost the war. He was not calling Bernie Sanders a Nazi, or his followers Nazis.
 
Matthews is too dense to realize it was the 'socialist' programs in Western Europe that staved off Stalinism. If it were the 1930s, Matthews would've opposed Social Security as a communist ploy.
 
What did he say that you find troubling, Geoist? He was making an analogy to the French being overwhelmed with combined and coordinated air and armored tactics of the Germans, i.e. "Blitzkrieg," which cut the French Army to pieces.
The French had trained to fight yesterday's war. The Germans had learned different lessons, and were able to defeat a numerically superior opponent with newly-developed superior combined arms tactics. He was saying that the Democratic Party establishment and its favored candidates, like the French, were overwhelmed and realized too late that they had lost the war. He was not calling Bernie Sanders a Nazi, or his followers Nazis.

Have you seen his other comments about Bernie's primary wins on MSNBC? The guy is hysterical over it. He talked about Central Park shooting squads just last week. When confronted by Chris Hayes with, 'of course Bernie doesn't support that type of socialism' he responded with, 'how are you so sure?' The guy is using the Nazis and Soviets to scare the Democratic Base that watches MSNBC. It is disingenuous and very inappropriate in context.
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?




That dude is nuttier than a Trumper.
 
Matthews apologized for his comments, but I think it is interesting that his gut instinct when he hears about socialism or big public programs is to reference the Nazis or some kind of red scare garbage. This is the kind of thing that will get cranked up to 11 if Bernie wins the nomination so everyone should be ready.
 
What did he say that you find troubling, Geoist? He was making an analogy to the French being overwhelmed with combined and coordinated air and armored tactics of the Germans, i.e. "Blitzkrieg," which cut the French Army to pieces. The French had trained to re-fight another First World War. The Germans had learned different lessons, and were able to defeat a numerically superior opponent with newly-developed superior combined arms tactics. He was saying that the Democratic Party establishment and its favored candidates, like the French, were overwhelmed and realized too late that they had lost the war. He was not calling Bernie Sanders a Nazi, or his followers Nazis.

I first saw this live on TV when he said it and I took it exactly as you are summarizing it here. Good job.
 
Unaware of the apology from last night. I give Matthews credit for stepping up and apologizing to Bernie.

Maybe now they can tone down the rhetoric? I really don't mind criticizing Sanders (heck, I've done it myself) but they should stick to the issues, not hyperbolic analogies and misguided labeling.
 
So what you've got here is 50 or so years of Democrats courting the Socialist ideology. They have even had the tacit approval of the Republicans (except for a few Reagan years). Things were DEFINITELY heading in the Globalist/Socialist direction until Trump came along. That was a little bit of a wake up call to the GOP but it was OK because they'd get rid of him pretty quick. Then McCain died and the Globalist faction in the GOP lost their mojo. Then the Democrats decided to run roughshod over Kavanaugh and a few lightbulbs started to flicker on with a few folks on the GOP side. Then Mueller wrapped up his report and it turned out that guys like Nunes and Jordan might not be crazy. Then impeachment hit and it was so obviously a campaign strategy that even the dimmest bulbs in the Democrat sphere were starting to get concerned that they'd created a monster. They'd managed to push AOC to the back of the room, kind of, but then came Bernie and the OWS movement that had moved into his camp. Well, today that 50 years of courting Socialism is getting real and a whole lot of Democrats are finding out that they'll have a distinct choice to make in the very near future. They are finding that they'll either have to stand up and tell the nation that they really do want to get rid of the political model we were founded on or they'll have to admit that they were just talking out their asses for all these years.
 
I first saw this live on TV when he said it and I took it exactly as you are summarizing it here. Good job.

I think that is how every rational person that saw it took it. The only ones that didn't are either overly sensitive and trying to make it offensive when it wasn't intended that way or have an agenda.
 
So what you've got here is 50 or so years of Democrats courting the Socialist ideology. They have even had the tacit approval of the Republicans (except for a few Reagan years). Things were DEFINITELY heading in the Globalist/Socialist direction until Trump came along. That was a little bit of a wake up call to the GOP but it was OK because they'd get rid of him pretty quick. Then McCain died and the Globalist faction in the GOP lost their mojo. Then the Democrats decided to run roughshod over Kavanaugh and a few lightbulbs started to flicker on with a few folks on the GOP side. Then Mueller wrapped up his report and it turned out that guys like Nunes and Jordan might not be crazy. Then impeachment hit and it was so obviously a campaign strategy that even the dimmest bulbs in the Democrat sphere were starting to get concerned that they'd created a monster. They'd managed to push AOC to the back of the room, kind of, but then came Bernie and the OWS movement that had moved into his camp. Well, today that 50 years of courting Socialism is getting real and a whole lot of Democrats are finding out that they'll have a distinct choice to make in the very near future. They are finding that they'll either have to stand up and tell the nation that they really do want to get rid of the political model we were founded on or they'll have to admit that they were just talking out their asses for all these years.

Name one program Sanders advocates that nearly every other Western European country doesn't have? Guess what, Finland is one of the happiest countries in the world and they have all those 'horrible socialist' programs you fear.
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?




Was the General Renault or Churchill Nazi's? That wasn't in my history books. if so.
 
Some of you guys clearly have not paid attention to Chris Matthews and many of the talking heads on MSNBC the last few weeks. Chris Hayes is one of the only ones keeping a cool head about Bernie.
 
Chuck Todd brought up brownshirts in reference to Bernie's supporters. They don't even go this far on the rhetoric over the Trump supporters.
 
I think that is how every rational person that saw it took it. The only ones that didn't are either overly sensitive and trying to make it offensive when it wasn't intended that way or have an agenda.

Nonsense, Matthews did not have a similar reaction to Hillary getting a majority of DNC primary votes or delegates in 2016. It is quite clear that Matthews sees Sanders' political success as a problem akin to the German (Nazi?) invasion of France - taking something (by force?) which Sanders had no right to do.
 
"he compared the inability of establishment Democrats to stop Bernie Sanders to France’s futile hopes against Germany’s invasion in 1940."




I don't see any problem with this. What am I missing?
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?




Lol you people are so pathetic.

First off Sanders is a raging anti-semite. He doesn’t get to wave the Jew Card, second you miss the entire point.

Sad!
 
Bernie has to be the most pathetic Nazi of all time. The guy can barely make a fist he's so old. Give him a break he just wants to spread his fairy dust all over the planet so nobody has to work for a living anymore and everything is free.
 
Matthews is too dense to realize it was the 'socialist' programs in Western Europe that staved off Stalinism. If it were the 1930s, Matthews would've opposed Social Security as a communist ploy.

Well that and some heavy handed reactionaries killing off the Stupid commies too. Like Hero General Francisco Franco, but even Charles De Gaulle was functionally a dictator. I have heard it alleged that names of communists French resistance leaders were given to the SS so they would be taken away and shot before we retook france
 
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Nonsense, Matthews did not have a similar reaction to Hillary getting a majority of DNC primary votes or delegates in 2016. It is quite clear that Matthews sees Sanders' political success as a problem akin to the German (Nazi?) invasion of France - taking something (by force?) which Sanders had no right to do.


I took it as a result that had not been predicted. Matthews referenced just having read about the German invasion of France. At the beginning of WW2 France was the military power in Europe. Had France pushed back early, Germany may have changed their strategy. I didn’t hear Matthews mention Nazis in his r=reporting. To me the analogy was more of a shocking outcome, than a comparison to National Socialism/Hitler. I find Matthew hard to listen to.........
 
Name one program Sanders advocates that nearly every other Western European country doesn't have? Guess what, Finland is one of the happiest countries in the world and they have all those 'horrible socialist' programs you fear.

Finland has an income tax, a municipal tax and a VAT. At the LOW end of the income spectrum one can expect to pay a combined tax rate of 40% on any income over roughly $20k. At the higher end they'd be paying a 75%+ combined rate. Go ahead and tell that cashier at Walgreens or the waitress at the restaurant you go to that as long as they're willing to pay 40% of their income in federal tax and whatever the state rate is that they too can be as happy as the Fins.
 
Does Chris Matthews think before he goes on these tirades and embarrasses himself in front of the nation? Is he even aware Sanders is Jewish and many of his relatives were killed in concentration camps?





Because he's losing his mind with fear: he had to apologize on air for that.

Yeah, Bernie's the Dark Horse alright. Calm down; he'll let you know who he really is and what he's about as we go on.

Please don't let "Bernie Derangement Syndrome" get a'hold of you.
 
Well that and some heavy handed reactionaries killing off the Stupid commies too. Like Hero General Francisco Franco, but even Charles De Gaulle was functionally a dictator. I have heard it alleged that names of communists French resistance leaders were given to the SS so they would be taken away and shot before we retook france

Franco was not remotely a “hero”.

“ From the very beginning of World War II, Spain favoured the Axis Powers. Apart from ideology, Spain had a debt to Germany of $212 million for supplies of matériel during the Civil War. Indeed, in June 1940, after the Fall of France, the Spanish Ambassador to Berlin had presented a memorandum in which Franco declared he was "ready under certain conditions to enter the war on the side of Germany and Italy". Franco had cautiously decided to enter the war on the Axis side in June 1940, and to prepare his people for war, an anti-British and anti-French campaign was launched in the Spanish media that demanded French Morocco, Cameroon and the return of Gibraltar.[5] On 19 June 1940, Franco pressed along a message to Hitler saying he wanted to enter the war, but Hitler was annoyed at Franco's demand for the French colony of Cameroon, which had been German before World War I, and which Hitler was planning on taking back.[6]

“As long as Spain permitted it, the Abwehr – the German intelligence organisation – was able to operate in Spain and Spanish Morocco, often with cooperation of the Nationalist government. Gibraltar's installations were a prime target for sabotage, using sympathetic anti-British Spanish workers. One such attack occurred in June 1943, when a bomb caused a fire and explosions in the dockyard. The British were generally more successful after this and managed to use turned agents and sympathetic anti-Fascist Spaniards to uncover subsequent attacks. A total of 43 sabotage attempts were prevented in this way. By January 1944, a Gibraltarian and two Spanish workers, convicted of attempted sabotage, had been executed.[26]
The Abwehr also financed, trained and equipped saboteurs to attack British naval assets. The Germans contacted a Spanish staff officer from Campo de Gibraltar, Lieutenant Colonel Eleuterio Sánchez Rubio, a Spanish army officer, member of the Falange and coordinator of the intelligence operations in the Campo,[27] to establish a network of saboteurs with access to Gibraltar. Sánchez Rubio designated Emilio Plazas Tejera, also a member of Falange, as operations chief of the organisation.[28] The Spanish agents sank the armed trawler HMT Erin, and destroyed the auxiliary minesweeper HMT Honju, which resulted in the deaths of six British seamen on 18 January 1942.[29][30][31] Plazas was assisted by the Spanish naval commander of Puente Mayorga, Manuel Romero Hume, who allowed him to beach a rowboat there.[26]

The Abwehr also maintained observation posts along both sides of the Straits of Gibraltar, reporting on shipping movements. A German agent in Cádiz was the target of a successful Allied disinformation operation, Operation Mincemeat, prior to the invasion of Sicily in 1943”

“ Despite lacking cash, oil and other supplies, Francoist Spain was able to supply some essential materials to Germany. There was a series of secret war-time trade agreements between the two countries. The principal resource was wolfram (or tungsten) ore from German-owned mines in Spain. Tungsten was essential to Germany for its advanced precision engineering and therefore for armament production. Despite Allied attempts to buy all available supplies, which rocketed in price, and diplomatic efforts to influence Spain, supplies to Germany continued until August 1944.

Payment for wolfram was effectively set against the Spanish debt to Germany. Other minerals included iron ore, zinc, lead and mercury. Spain also acted as a conduit for goods from South America, for example, industrial diamonds and platinum. After the war, evidence was found of significant gold transactions between Germany and Spain, ceasing only in May 1945. It was believed that these were derived from Nazi looting of occupied lands, but attempts by the Allies to obtain control of the gold and return it were largely frustrated.”

Spain during World War II - Wikipedia
 
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