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I need the enlightenment of a MSM expert please?

Empirica

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I just saw the latest Bloomburg tv commercial and was a bit surprised by its final 5 seconds.

The commercial actually ended with; "unlike Trump, Michael Bloomburg keeps his promises".

How could Michael Bloomburg ever think he might get away with such an obvious false claim?

Could he possibly believe that people are ignorant of Trump's impressive record of 'kept promises'?

Feeding America "fake news" is unconscionable but a controlled blackout of reality is totalitarian!

Is it possible MSM News has been intentionally withholding pertinent facts and details from people?
 
Empirica said:
I just saw the latest Bloomburg tv commercial and was a bit surprised by its final 5 seconds.

The commercial actually ended with; "unlike Trump, Michael Bloomburg keeps his promises".

How could Michael Bloomburg ever think he might get away with such an obvious false claim?

Could he possibly believe that people are ignorant of Trump's impressive record of 'kept promises'?

Feeding America "fake news" is unconscionable but a controlled blackout of reality is totalitarian!

Is it possible MSM News has been intentionally withholding pertinent facts and details from people?
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Build The Wall!
Lock Her Up!
Repeal And Replace!
 
Empirica said:
I just saw the latest Bloomburg tv commercial and was a bit surprised by its final 5 seconds.

The commercial actually ended with; "unlike Trump, Michael Bloomburg keeps his promises".

How could Michael Bloomburg ever think he might get away with such an obvious false claim?

Could he possibly believe that people are ignorant of Trump's impressive record of 'kept promises'?

Feeding America "fake news" is unconscionable but a controlled blackout of reality is totalitarian!

Is it possible MSM News has been intentionally withholding pertinent facts and details from people?
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I'm betting if you can provide a list of 'kept promises' every single one of them has been reported in the "MSM." Try it out, and let's see! You can start with a single kept promise and challenge the rest of us to find it reported in what you call the MSM.

GO!
 
Empirica said:
Is it possible MSM News has been intentionally withholding pertinent facts and details from people?
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The media has for years omitted or avoided reporting on certain negatives when it comes to democrats running for office, but ever since Trump was elected the media has become much, much worse. It's like they feel it's their duty to make sure Trump and republicans don't get elected.


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I heard there's enlightenment at the bottom of a bottle. I'ma geta beer.
 
Empirica said:
I just saw the latest Bloomburg tv commercial and was a bit surprised by its final 5 seconds.

The commercial actually ended with; "unlike Trump, Michael Bloomburg keeps his promises".

How could Michael Bloomburg ever think he might get away with such an obvious false claim?

Could he possibly believe that people are ignorant of Trump's impressive record of 'kept promises'?

Feeding America "fake news" is unconscionable but a controlled blackout of reality is totalitarian!

Is it possible MSM News has been intentionally withholding pertinent facts and details from people?
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As with the MSM, Bloomburg is counting on the useful idiots. You know...people who believe everything they read in the newspaper and see on TV.
 
Empirica said:
How could Michael Bloomburg ever think he might get away with such an obvious false claim?
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Because... it's true.

He did do a few things he promised, such as appointed right-wing judges. But he has failed to keep a lot of campaign promises, including but not limited to:

• Build a wall on the southern border, and make Mexico pay for it
• Repeal the ACA
• Put together a health plan that covers everyone and is cheaper than the ACA
• Eliminate federal debt in 8 years / balance the budget "quickly"
• Save the coal industry
• Kick Syrian refugees out of the US
• Renegotiate Iran deal
• Remove all undocumented immigrants from the US
• Cut the number of tax brackets
• End AMT
• Cancel all federal funds for "sanctuary cities"
• Release his tax returns
• "Drain the swamp"

The people who fail to realize how many promises Trump broke are the 25% or so of Trump fanatics who will never vote for Bloomberg anyway.
 
Grand Mal said:
Build The Wall!
Lock Her Up!
Repeal And Replace!
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A top ranked speaker that I listened just a while ago today, remarked on the wall.

Universities build walls to keep away humans that seek the excellent schooling based on walling off the university. Don't believe me on this issue, enter a top ranked university that has no such conditions, such as grades, activities that may include political activism or can you play football.

Though if you are a citizen of China, Japan, India, Turkistan, etc, you can't swim to America, how then can Mexicans be allowed to swim in, though the journey may have been 3000 miles long? Why give them the advantage not enjoyed by millions who are stuck where they were born?
 
Visbek said:
Because... it's true.

He did do a few things he promised, such as appointed right-wing judges. But he has failed to keep a lot of campaign promises, including but not limited to:

• Build a wall on the southern border, and make Mexico pay for it
• Repeal the ACA
• Put together a health plan that covers everyone and is cheaper than the ACA
• Eliminate federal debt in 8 years / balance the budget "quickly"
• Save the coal industry
• Kick Syrian refugees out of the US
• Renegotiate Iran deal
• Remove all undocumented immigrants from the US
• Cut the number of tax brackets
• End AMT
• Cancel all federal funds for "sanctuary cities"
• Release his tax returns
• "Drain the swamp"

The people who fail to realize how many promises Trump broke are the 25% or so of Trump fanatics who will never vote for Bloomberg anyway.
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And as GOD is your witness, you truly wanted him to keep those promises!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even Obama never kept all of his promises.
 
Visbek said:
Because... it's true.

He did do a few things he promised, such as appointed right-wing judges. But he has failed to keep a lot of campaign promises, including but not limited to:

• Build a wall on the southern border, and make Mexico pay for it
• Repeal the ACA
• Put together a health plan that covers everyone and is cheaper than the ACA
• Eliminate federal debt in 8 years / balance the budget "quickly"
• Save the coal industry
• Kick Syrian refugees out of the US
• Renegotiate Iran deal
• Remove all undocumented immigrants from the US
• Cut the number of tax brackets
• End AMT
• Cancel all federal funds for "sanctuary cities"
• Release his tax returns
• "Drain the swamp"

The people who fail to realize how many promises Trump broke are the 25% or so of Trump fanatics who will never vote for Bloomberg anyway.
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You forgot the biggie:

"Bring the jobs back"
 
Robertinfremont said:
And as GOD is your witness, you truly wanted him to keep those promises!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even Obama never kept all of his promises.
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You moved the goal posts. The OP alleges Bloomberg lied and the MSM is engaged in a conspiracy to hide the many promises Trump kept. They're both false claims.
 
Empirica said:
I just saw the latest Bloomburg tv commercial and was a bit surprised by its final 5 seconds.

The commercial actually ended with; "unlike Trump, Michael Bloomburg keeps his promises".

How could Michael Bloomburg ever think he might get away with such an obvious false claim?

Could he possibly believe that people are ignorant of Trump's impressive record of 'kept promises'?

Feeding America "fake news" is unconscionable but a controlled blackout of reality is totalitarian!

Is it possible MSM News has been intentionally withholding pertinent facts and details from people?
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I rate this mostly true since Bloomberg has yet to break a campaign promise as POTUS.
 
Grand Mal said:
Build The Wall!
Lock Her Up!
Repeal And Replace!
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Honestly...... The wall is being rebuild. Currently slightly over 100 miles and working at about a mile a day. One of the problems was lawsuits brought by democrats which had to be decided in courts. Most of those have been decided recently in the favor of the President. LOCK HER UP!!! Come on. That was a catchy campaign phrase loved by the voters. In reality if it were up to Trump she might be in jail but the democratic administration allowed her to get off despite destroying 33,000 emails under subpoena and taking a hammer to her phones. Repeal and Replace. That's not done but it was pushed by Trump and the republicans in the Senate in particular Mitch McConnell were opposed. They wanted to get tax cut done and were looking at the 2018 midterms and feared the R&R. Democrats have opposed everything.
 
Robertinfremont said:
A top ranked speaker that I listened just a while ago today, remarked on the wall.

Universities build walls to keep away humans that seek the excellent schooling based on walling off the university. Don't believe me on this issue, enter a top ranked university that has no such conditions, such as grades, activities that may include political activism or can you play football.

Though if you are a citizen of China, Japan, India, Turkistan, etc, you can't swim to America, how then can Mexicans be allowed to swim in, though the journey may have been 3000 miles long? Why give them the advantage not enjoyed by millions who are stuck where they were born?
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You hit on a very germane point, here.

It's not just illegal immigration that has many upset, but the apparent ease at which illegal immigration occurs and is tacitly accepted by some when it's coming through our southern border.

Let's not delude ourselves, a great deal of illegal immigration indeed occurs by those entering legally, and then subsequently overstaying their visitor's or working' visas. But it seems more egregious to most, when rather than initially entering legally - the initial entrance is an illegal & nefarious act from the very get-go.

Very good point you've made.
 
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Empirica said:
I just saw the latest Bloomburg tv commercial and was a bit surprised by its final 5 seconds.

The commercial actually ended with; "unlike Trump, Michael Bloomburg keeps his promises".

How could Michael Bloomburg ever think he might get away with such an obvious false claim?

Could he possibly believe that people are ignorant of Trump's impressive record of 'kept promises'?

Feeding America "fake news" is unconscionable but a controlled blackout of reality is totalitarian!

Is it possible MSM News has been intentionally withholding pertinent facts and details from people?
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Trump has failed at easy promises most notably his promise to not play golf all the time like Oblama did, yet there he is playing golf like Oblama did..to excess...
 
JasperL said:
You moved the goal posts. The OP alleges Bloomberg lied and the MSM is engaged in a conspiracy to hide the many promises Trump kept. They're both false claims.
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My point is about what you said here in the open rays of daylight.

You appear to speak to us all as if you truly wanted Trump to do all of what you spoke of.

At least it sounds like it to ME.
 
Moonglow said:
Trump has failed at easy promises most notably his promise to not play golf all the time like Oblama did, yet there he is playing golf like Oblama did..to excess...
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My several doctors often remind me to walk. And tell me such walking is outstanding to curtail diabetes and works to defeat heart disease.
 
Chomsky said:
You hit on a very germane point, here.

It's not just illegal immigration that has many upset, but the apparent ease at which illegal immigration occurs and is tacitly accepted by some when it's coming through our southern border.

Let's not delude ourselves, a great deal of illegal immigration indeed occurs by those entering legally, and then subsequently overstaying their visitor's or working' visas. But it seems more egregious to most, when rather than initially entering legally - the initial entrance is an illegal & nefarious act from the very get-go.

Very good point you've made.
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Not especially - simply because you may let someone visit your property does not give them the right to stay there indefinitely.
 
Moonglow said:
It's really at the bottom of a bong bowl..
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It's not at the bottom of this ****ing wine cooler from Funky Buddha. Pale ale with a hint of pineapple my ass. Why do I stray from wheat beer.
 
ecofarm said:
It's not at the bottom of the ****ing wine cooler from Funky Buddha. Pale ale with a hint of pineapple my ass.
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I tried a Pale Ale last year and thought about how much more thirsty I was after each drink. My supervisor was hooked on pink lemonade beer.
 
Chomsky said:
You hit on a very germane point, here.

It's not just illegal immigration that has many upset, but the apparent ease at which illegal immigration occurs and is tacitly accepted by some when it's coming through our southern border.

Let's not delude ourselves, a great deal of illegal immigration indeed occurs by those entering legally, and then subsequently overstaying their visitor's or working' visas. But it seems more egregious to most, when rather than initially entering legally - the initial entrance is an illegal & nefarious act from the very get-go.

Very good point you've made.
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The first known use of Illegals, especially from Mexico, was when Al Gore came down to S. Cal to register as voters illegal aliens. He of course short cutted them to make them citizens.

How can a fresh to the USA Mexican be expected to even trust voting?
 
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