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Bernie criticized for accepting Joe Rogan’s endorsement

Dans La Lune

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Dans La Lune said:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/politics/bernie-sanders-joe-rogan-endorsement/index.html

I found this satirical take on the Joe Rogan endorsement controversy especially funny. It shows you just how hypocritical the establishment and MSM can be with regard to who is tolerated (Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger) and who is not (Joe Rogan, Cenk Uyger).

https://mobile.twitter.com/MSDNCNews/status/1221098479403065345
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Joe Rogan has talked to Nazis.

What Joe says about gays and trans during his concert is pretty rude.
 
The Sanders' camp has handled this the right way. Do you want to know how Bernie plans to try and pass anything? It's by building a coalition that is going to include an awful lot of people who may only agree on things like single-payer healthcare or being anti war. If the Progressive movement is willing to prioritize policy over politeness the future is ours. If Democrats more broadly hang on to the idea that being civil is the only thing that matters they will continue to rely on once in a generation talents like Obama, or once in a generation monsters like Trump to gain temporary power.
 
Joe Rogan said:
"I think I'll probably vote for Bernie. Him as a human being, when I was hanging out with him, I believe in him, I like him, I like him a lot," Rogan said on an earlier episode of his show.
"What Bernie stands for is a guy -- look, you could dig up dirt on every single human being that's ever existed if you catch them in their worst moment and you magnify those moments and you cut out everything else and you only display those worst moments. That said, you can't find very many with Bernie. He's been insanely consistent his entire life. He's basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from."
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Rogan has no idea how much political baggage Sanders has.
 
aociswundumho said:
Rogan has no idea how much political baggage Sanders has.
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He has far far less baggage than Trump "Grab em by the *****" and "Windmills cause cancer" has.
 
Felis Leo said:
Talks to Nazis = Nazi
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Nope don't agree with that. I haven't seen the interview Rogan did, but unless it was completely destroying their hate, it could give Nazis a platform for them to spread their hate. I'll have to watch the interview to judge. However, with that being said I still don't think it is that big of a deal that Sander's talked to Rogan. Rogan is a comedian and as such says outlandish things in his acts.

Sort of like the movie "Blazing Saddles", some people today claim that the movie is racist against blacks and they have no clue it is actually more against white people. Different strokes for different folks I guess and people are correct that you will never have a "pure" progressive candidate that every progressive will agree with. Best for progressives to get behind a Progressive at least against Trump rather than divide and attack the other progressives. All they are doing when they attack other progressives is make it more difficult for the nominee to go against Trump.
 
Who cares?
Bernie will never be the president.
 
trixare4kids said:
Who cares?
Bernie will never be the president.
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Depends if he wins the Dem nomination. If he does, President Bernie is a good possibility. Trump is a corrupt low life Anti-American asshole.
 
swing_voter said:
Joe Rogan has talked to Nazis.

What Joe says about gays and trans during his concert is pretty rude.
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Anyone who violated any progressive SWJ or PC rules of this month anytime in their life must be professionally destroyed and publicly hated - and so should anyone who has ever been near that person. That's the behavior rules of the new Corporate Fascist Democratic Party.

Besides, the super rich and super rich corporations of the world don't want Bernie Sanders so he must be eliminated no matter what it takes. That is the priority status order of the new Corporate Fascist Democratic Party. Your authority and status is determined by your level of wealth. Sanders is so far down that scale he doesn't even come close to qualifying.
 
Praxas said:
Nope don't agree with that. I haven't seen the interview Rogan did, but unless it was completely destroying their hate, it could give Nazis a platform for them to spread their hate. I'll have to watch the interview to judge. However, with that being said I still don't think it is that big of a deal that Sander's talked to Rogan. Rogan is a comedian and as such says outlandish things in his acts.

Sort of like the movie "Blazing Saddles", some people today claim that the movie is racist against blacks and they have no clue it is actually more against white people. Different strokes for different folks I guess and people are correct that you will never have a "pure" progressive candidate that every progressive will agree with. Best for progressives to get behind a Progressive at least against Trump rather than divide and attack the other progressives. All they are doing when they attack other progressives is make it more difficult for the nominee to go against Trump.
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Anyone who ever watched more than 20 minutes of Blazing Saddles should be interned in a re-education camp.
 
Phys251 said:
Giving extremists a platform normalizes that extremism.
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Do you think if you listened to a Nazi expound their ideological beliefs, you would be swayed to become a Nazi, Phys251?
 
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The faster Biden takes down the opposition, the faster Trump gets re-elected.
 
Phys251 said:
Giving extremists a platform normalizes that extremism.
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So if I were to provide a list of talk show hosts and journalists who've had Nazis on their problems, you'd be comfortable in denouncing all of them?
 
Praxas said:
Nope don't agree with that. I haven't seen the interview Rogan did, but unless it was completely destroying their hate, it could give Nazis a platform for them to spread their hate. I'll have to watch the interview to judge. However, with that being said I still don't think it is that big of a deal that Sander's talked to Rogan. Rogan is a comedian and as such says outlandish things in his acts.

Sort of like the movie "Blazing Saddles", some people today claim that the movie is racist against blacks and they have no clue it is actually more against white people. Different strokes for different folks I guess and people are correct that you will never have a "pure" progressive candidate that every progressive will agree with. Best for progressives to get behind a Progressive at least against Trump rather than divide and attack the other progressives. All they are doing when they attack other progressives is make it more difficult for the nominee to go against Trump.
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I have no indication that Rogan is a racist or is pro-Nazi, Praxas. He is willing to sit down and speak to pretty much anybody, whether far-left, far-right, all in-between, or revolving around the moon for that matter.

I might be wrong, but I think much of the criticism leveled at him from the left mainly stems from his stated position that he does not believe transgendered women should be allowed into MMA or wrestling matches with biological cisgender women. But it is easier to attack or dismiss someone for being willing to publicly sit down with a conspiracist like Alex Jones than to debate the issue of someone who has lived as a man past puberty with normal male development soundly and often brutally beating cisgendered women in martial arts contests.
 
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Dans La Lune said:
Did he agree with them?



Perhaps Warren and Buttigieg shouldn’t have tried to appear on his show.
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When your base is the "woke left", you can't hang out with people who joke about gays and trans people.
 
Another example of a very vocal minority getting the spotlight. I bet a majority of Bernie supporters have no problem with Rogan's endorsement or the Campaign's touting of it.

And lol at Biden for pretending to be a leader in human/civil rights.
 
Joe Rogan is ****, but as all the Liberals have been telling me we can't be "purity testing" our candidates have to accept that sometimes our candidates are imperfect. So hey, I'll take Bernie being endorsed by an ignorant drugged up podcaster over Bernie being endorsed by monsters and disgusting people like Kissinger or the Clintons.
 
CMPancake said:
Joe Rogan is ****, but as all the Liberals have been telling me we can't be "purity testing" our candidates have to accept that sometimes our candidates are imperfect. So hey, I'll take Bernie being endorsed by an ignorant drugged up podcaster over Bernie being endorsed by monsters and disgusting people like Kissinger or the Clintons.
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I would argue that it is not that the political candidates are imperfect. All humans are imperfect. It is the voters who are imperfect.

Because what the critics of Sanders are demanding is that he and every other Progressive and Democratic Socialist should essentially be saying: "If you do not share my worldview in its entirety, or if you disagree with major aspects of it, I do not want or need your vote."

I predict that the next thing some critics are going to inevitably jump to asking "Well, should Sanders be appealing to get the Neo-Nazi vote???" Mark my words.
 
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Joe Rogan has one of the biggest podcasts in the country, interviews a wide range of guests and pretty much treats every guest with respect even when he disagrees with them. FFS...how ****ing stupid do you have to be to **** yourself over a guy that talks to people that you dont like?

Yes...he says some raw things bout gays and transgendered people in his comedy act. He says that about pretty much EVERYONE.

Russel Brand does the same kind of thing with humor and decency.
 
Felis Leo said:
I would argue that it is not that the political candidates are imperfect. All humans are imperfect. It is the voters who are imperfect.

Because what the critics of Sanders are saying is that he and every other Progressive and Democratic Socialist should essentially be saying: "If you do not share my worldview in its entirety, or if you disagree with major aspects of it, I do not want or need your vote."
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That's always been an issue with the Left-Wing sphere of politics; we always eat each other. The Democratic party doesn't want Bernie to win because he's an outsider to the Democratic party and doesn't have the same hangups that establishment favorites like Warren and Biden have.
 
CMPancake said:
That's always been an issue with the Left-Wing sphere of politics; we always eat each other. The Democratic party doesn't want Bernie to win because he's an outsider to the Democratic party and doesn't have the same hangups that establishment favorites like Warren and Biden have.
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Totally agreed, CMPancake. While I think that some of these complaints against Sanders come from a place of genuine upset, I do not think I am out of bounds to speculate lot of it is ginned-up in order to try and force him to turn his nose up and spurn the votes of independents (the one or two-issue voter types) who disagree with parts of his worldview, his attitude or policy platform, but would otherwise want to vote for him...thus helping him lose the Primaries to Biden or Warren or the general when he says he will seek only the vote of pure left-wing socialists or progressives.
 
Felis Leo said:
Do you think if you listened to a Nazi expound their ideological beliefs, you would be swayed to become a Nazi, Phys251?
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Assuming for the moment that you are asking this question in good faith--an assumption I am allowed to take back at any time--I would not want to play with fire. I know that radicals reach out to people by bypassing the intellect and playing on our emotions. I do not want to take the risk that there is that part of me deep inside me somewhere that could be ignited by just the right propaganda. Therefore, no, I would not listen to them.

I hope you would choose not to listen to extremists for the same reason.
 
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