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CNN settles with Covington Catholic student Nick Sandmann but an avalanche of suits is still to come

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A worthy read @ ~ 6 minutes on audio or print.

Fake News Media Faces a Reckoning for Political Bias - Liberty Nation

At the heart of Sandmann’s suit, though, was the question of whether publicly labeling someone a racist is defamatory. There may be no standard yes or no answer to that question, but CNN attempted to have the case against it dismissed on the grounds that calling someone a racist “offers an expression of opinion so subjective as to be unprovable.�

The problem, for the left-wing establishment media is that they long ago set themselves up to be hoisted by their own petard, to borrow from William Shakespeare’s Hamlet. When certain individuals in the media, such as CNN’s Don Lemon or countless other anchors, columnists, and contributors, call people they disagree with “racist,� “homophobic,� or any of these other overused, derogatory terms, they are not clarifying that the accusations are opinions – rather, they are stating those accusations as fact; assertions that are, for any reasonable person, not open to dispute.
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At issue here is the media stating that so and so is a racist. in the form of a declarative statement, just as if you were reporting that a blue jeep went through a red light and ran over a dog - a provable, reportable fact, not open to dispute as opposed to Nick Sandman is a racist - an opinion presented as a provable, reportable fact again not open to dispute.

So it seems that the tide may be going out a bit on salacious identity labeling by the media.
 
Man...can you imagine the impact if they reviewed all the social media platforms and legally/civilly went after every douchebag piece of **** that attacked those kids?
 
chuckiechan said:
A worthy read @ ~ 6 minutes on audio or print.

Fake News Media Faces a Reckoning for Political Bias - Liberty Nation



At issue here is the media stating that so and so is a racist. in the form of a declarative statement, just as if you were reporting that a blue jeep went through a red light and ran over a dog - a provable, reportable fact, not open to dispute as opposed to Nick Sandman is a racist - an opinion presented as a provable, reportable fact again not open to dispute.

So it seems that the tide may be going out a bit on salacious identity labeling by the media.
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Wait, they really sued CNN because they called a racist a racist?? Cool, let's just continue these frivolous lawsuits as a way to further suppress CNN's First Amendment rights.. :doh:
 
chuckiechan said:
A worthy read @ ~ 6 minutes on audio or print.

Fake News Media Faces a Reckoning for Political Bias - Liberty Nation



At issue here is the media stating that so and so is a racist. in the form of a declarative statement, just as if you were reporting that a blue jeep went through a red light and ran over a dog - a provable, reportable fact, not open to dispute as opposed to Nick Sandman is a racist - an opinion presented as a provable, reportable fact again not open to dispute.

So it seems that the tide may be going out a bit on salacious identity labeling by the media.
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When the article starts with the statement "At the heart of Sandmann's suit, though, was the question of whether publicly labeling someone a racist is defamatory." it's not worth reading further... That's not what this case is/was about at all.. Good lord...
 
BlueTex said:
When the article starts with the statement "At the heart of Sandmann's suit, though, was the question of whether publicly labeling someone a racist is defamatory." it's not worth reading further... That's not what this case is/was about at all.. Good lord...
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As he reads the Constitution, “We the people...” Oh **** that... tl:dr. :roll:
 
chuckiechan said:
A worthy read @ ~ 6 minutes on audio or print.

Fake News Media Faces a Reckoning for Political Bias - Liberty Nation



At issue here is the media stating that so and so is a racist. in the form of a declarative statement, just as if you were reporting that a blue jeep went through a red light and ran over a dog - a provable, reportable fact, not open to dispute as opposed to Nick Sandman is a racist - an opinion presented as a provable, reportable fact again not open to dispute.

So it seems that the tide may be going out a bit on salacious identity labeling by the media.
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I would argue that this most likely wouldn’t have an impact on CNN because it’s what its audience expects but then it is losing viewers.

CNN continues to struggle in key prime-time slot
 
chuckiechan said:
A worthy read @ ~ 6 minutes on audio or print.

Fake News Media Faces a Reckoning for Political Bias - Liberty Nation



At issue here is the media stating that so and so is a racist. in the form of a declarative statement, just as if you were reporting that a blue jeep went through a red light and ran over a dog - a provable, reportable fact, not open to dispute as opposed to Nick Sandman is a racist - an opinion presented as a provable, reportable fact again not open to dispute.

So it seems that the tide may be going out a bit on salacious identity labeling by the media.
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Since race and racism are part and parcel of society (as defined by the media) - I wonder if there are degrees of racism, or if it's an on/off switch - a case of you either are or aren't racist.

For example, I purposefully avoided living in the inner city because I deemed the schools inadequate - they didn't meet my standards. Those schools happened to be disproportionately minority. However, in looking for a house away from minority school districts, I never said the n-word or made other disparaging remarks about "of color" individuals. Based on this information, would the media consider me a racist, a non-racist, or somewhere in between?
 
Overitall said:
touché. Although it was the cable network that got dinged.
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Fewer and fewer are watching cable news these days... CNN realized this years ago and has capitalized on the trend...
 
BlueTex said:
Fewer and fewer are watching cable news these days... CNN realized this years ago and has capitalized on the trend...
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Most of the dinosaurs probably aren’t aware of the service available on fox. And yet they’re not that far behind cnn. I still read newspapers so I’m certainly one of the dinosaurs. :)
 
Overitall said:
Most of the dinosaurs probably aren’t aware of the service available on fox. And yet they’re not that far behind cnn. I still read newspapers so I’m certainly one of the dinosaurs. :)
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The only news source spiraling faster than cable news is newspapers... :) I miss them sometimes...
 
BlueTex said:
The only news source spiraling faster than cable news is newspapers... :) I miss them sometimes...
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Imagine what it was like when there was only 3 major networks. Kids these days are fortunate even though the news they get is more propaganda than real news.
 
Overitall said:
Imagine what it was like when there was only 3 major networks. Kids these days are fortunate even though the news they get is more propaganda than real news.
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I don't have to imagine at all... My kids are confounded by the idea of OTA broadcasts and how lives revolved around when something was on versus today when everything is available on demand.
 
chuckiechan said:
A worthy read @ ~ 6 minutes on audio or print.

Fake News Media Faces a Reckoning for Political Bias - Liberty Nation



At issue here is the media stating that so and so is a racist. in the form of a declarative statement, just as if you were reporting that a blue jeep went through a red light and ran over a dog - a provable, reportable fact, not open to dispute as opposed to Nick Sandman is a racist - an opinion presented as a provable, reportable fact again not open to dispute.

So it seems that the tide may be going out a bit on salacious identity labeling by the media.
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The problem is that public figures are effectively exempt from the protection of American libel law, so most media defamation is totally unaffected by this.

And even regarding private individuals, I highly doubt that the federal courts will allow any precedent to be set that could chill the media's freedom-to-defame in any meaningful way. Remember that the "public figure" exception was originally invented to protect the NYT's ability to wantonly defame people, the courts can create any other exception deemed necessary to protect the media's power.
 
Glad this kid is getting something for his troubles. More importantly his law suits are exposing the knee jerk, liberal orthodoxy spewing media. Enemy of the people indeed.
 
Phys251 said:
Wait, they really sued CNN because they called a racist a racist?? Cool, let's just continue these frivolous lawsuits as a way to further suppress CNN's First Amendment rights.. :doh:
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Frivolous like the Impeachment nonsense?
 
TobyOne said:
Glad this kid is getting something for his troubles. More importantly his law suits are exposing the knee jerk, liberal orthodoxy spewing media. Enemy of the people indeed.
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One of the fourteen characteristics of fascism is a controlled mass media. Perhaps you would like that?
 
chuckiechan said:
A worthy read @ ~ 6 minutes on audio or print.

Fake News Media Faces a Reckoning for Political Bias - Liberty Nation



At issue here is the media stating that so and so is a racist. in the form of a declarative statement, just as if you were reporting that a blue jeep went through a red light and ran over a dog - a provable, reportable fact, not open to dispute as opposed to Nick Sandman is a racist - an opinion presented as a provable, reportable fact again not open to dispute.

So it seems that the tide may be going out a bit on salacious identity labeling by the media.
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the right wing is worse; you all only allege to be for natural rights in abortion threads.
 
TobyOne said:
Lol. :lamo
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The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

"6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common."

Between your ilk's attacks on the mainstream media as "fake news" and "the enemy of the people," maybe a controlled mass media exactly what y'all want. Y'all sure do struggle with the First Amendment's provision of the freedom of the press. :shrug:
 
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