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    Trump Admin No Longer Protecting Journalists Overseas

    This was reported in September, but I just learned about it. I find it amazing.

    During an address at Brown University, AG Sulzberger, the NYT publisher, related what happened when a Times journalist was endangered by the Egyptian government.

    Two years ago, the Times received a call from a U.S. government official warning the newspaper’s brass of the imminent arrest of a NY Times reporter based in Egypt. His name is Declan Walsh.

    “Though the news was alarming, the call was actually fairly standard. Over the years we’ve received countless such warnings from American diplomats, military leaders and national security officials. But this particular call took a surprising and distressing turn. We learned the official was passing along this warning without the knowledge or permission of the Trump Administration.

    “Rather than trying to stop the Egyptian government or assist the reporter, the official believed the Trump Administration intended to sit on the information and let the arrest be carried out. The official feared being punished for even alerting us to the danger.”

    Times top leaders felt they were unable to count on their own government to prevent the arrest or help free the reporter if he was imprisoned. So they turned to Walsh’s native country, Ireland, for aid.

    “Within an hour, Irish diplomats traveled to (Walsh’s) house and safely escorted him to the airport before Egyptian forces could detain him,” said Sulzberger.

    Trump’s administration has “retreated from our country’s historical role as a defender of the free press. Seeing that, other countries are targeting journalists with a growing sense of impunity,” said Sulzberger.
    You can see his address at this link.

    I believe a free press is an essential ingredient in any functioning democracy. Attacking it is the work of despots.

    p.s. 18 months later another NYT reporter arrived in Egypt. He was detained and deported in apparent retaliation for exposing information that was embarrassing to the Egyptian government. When the NYT protested the move, a senior official at the US embassy in Cairo said, "what did you expect would happen? His reporting made the government look bad."
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    Re: Trump Admin No Longer Protecting Journalists Overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    This was reported in September, but I just learned about it. I find it amazing.

    During an address at Brown University, AG Sulzberger, the NYT publisher, related what happened when a Times journalist was endangered by the Egyptian government.



    You can see his address at this link.

    I believe a free press is an essential ingredient in any functioning democracy. Attacking it is the work of despots.

    p.s. 18 months later another NYT reporter arrived in Egypt. He was detained and deported in apparent retaliation for exposing information that was embarrassing to the Egyptian government. When the NYT protested the move, a senior official at the US embassy in Cairo said, "what did you expect would happen? His reporting made the government look bad."
    It IS NOT the job of the United States government to protect reporters overseas. It IS the job the United States government to preserve the freedom of the press here in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    It IS NOT the job of the United States government to protect reporters overseas. It IS the job the United States government to preserve the freedom of the press here in the US.
    Cowardly nationalist garbage. All men are created equal. All men have rights to life, expression and self defense. All men should enjoy the protections afforded in our Constitution. That's called patriotism and it's nothing like nationalism.

    Patriotism and nationalism, in the case of the US, are mutually exclusive. The former inclusive and the latter exclusive. Being exclusive, nationalists cannot honestly claim the ideals of this nation.
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    Oh, I'm sorry. Did I just crush nationalism like a ****ing bug? Perhaps a nazi would like to scrape it off.

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    Re: Trump Admin No Longer Protecting Journalists Overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    It IS NOT the job of the United States government to protect reporters overseas. It IS the job the United States government to preserve the freedom of the press here in the US.
    It sounds like you're saying all we should care about is domestic news. Without foreign correspondents, how are supposed to know what's going on in the world? How would we know that the leader of Egypt, who our president supports, is a corrupt dictator? How do we, as citizens, evaluate our foreign policy if we don't know what's going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    It sounds like you're saying all we should care about is domestic news. Without foreign correspondents, how are supposed to know what's going on in the world? How would we know that the leader of Egypt, who our president supports, is a corrupt dictator? How do we, as citizens, evaluate our foreign policy if we don't know what's going on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Cowardly nationalist garbage. All men are created equal. All men have rights to life, expression and self defense. All men should enjoy the protections afforded in our Constitution. That's called patriotism and it's nothing like nationalism.
    I agree in principle, but we can't make every other country follow our example. It sounds like you're advocating interventionism worldwide against any government that doesn't share our first amendment value.
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    Re: Trump Admin No Longer Protecting Journalists Overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams View Post
    I agree in principle, but we can't make every other country follow our example. It sounds like you're advocating interventionism worldwide against any government that doesn't share our first amendment value.
    I'm talking cowboy, Ollie North, yee-haw ****ing diplomacy.

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    Re: Trump Admin No Longer Protecting Journalists Overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm talking cowboy, Ollie North, yee-haw ****ing diplomacy.
    I don't know how to take this. Is it serious? I don't know you so I don't know your brand of sarcasm, or if this fits within it. You want us to invade China because they don't respect the free speech rights of their journalists? Honestly, I can't tell.
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    Re: Trump Admin No Longer Protecting Journalists Overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams View Post
    I agree in principle, but we can't make every other country follow our example. It sounds like you're advocating interventionism worldwide against any government that doesn't share our first amendment value.
    Seems fair enough that we don't imprison foreign journalists and ask that the same courtesy be extended to ours abroad or we will rain hellfire on them.

    Freedom of the press must be defended globally otherwise, what's the point?

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