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Michael Moore Sounds like he Wants to Get Rid of Trump's Base

Chomsky said:
I definitely would like E-Verify mandated, but I am not for expanding the IRS. Not at all.
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The IRS expansion would only be required to audit/enforce direct labor cost tax deductions. I see no need to try to round up and deport illegal immigrants except for those already in custody for criminal charges/convictions - that could be better accomplished by offering federal bounties to state/local police departments for their cooperation.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The IRS expansion would only be required to audit/enforce direct labor cost tax deductions. I see no need to try to round up and deport illegal immigrants except for those already in custody for criminal charges/convictions - that could be better accomplished by offering federal bounties to state/local police departments for their cooperation.
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I'm fine with your "non-roundup" policy. But I'm strongly against expanding the IRS for any reason.
 
Chomsky said:
I'm fine with your "non-roundup" policy. But I'm strongly against expanding the IRS for any reason.
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There is simply no reason that crime (including employing illegal immigrants) should pay which is precisely what the taxpayers are forced to do by allowing "job creators" to deduct 100% of their costs used to pay illegal immigrant labor. It's bad enough that I am forced to compete with those who use illegal immigrant labor but to also subsidize (via offering 100% tax breaks) employing them is a step past that.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
There is simply no reason that crime (including employing illegal immigrants) should pay which is precisely what the taxpayers are forced to do by allowing "job creators" to deduct 100% of their costs used to pay illegal immigrant labor. It''s bad enough that I am forced to compete with those who use illegal immigrant labor but to also subsidize (via offering 100% tax breaks) employing them is a step past that.
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I couldn't agree more. And because of this, I understand (somewhat) how the rise of Trump came about. This problem has been going-on and escalating for decades. Which means one has to have been around for a few decades to have the perspective to fully understand what has occurred. Which explains Trump's often older-gen demographics.

To put otherwise honest tradesmen and small business owners in a position where they believe they must use illegal labor to compete, is a travesty. Just like with the War on Drugs, we are essentially criminalizing a large swatch of society while simultaneously making a mockery of our rule of law.

The crux of the matter is via the controlling political parties our government sold us out. And this brought Trump about. Neither is good.
 
Chomsky said:
I'm not sure where anyone is seeing all these the Caucasian construction and other workers these days. By me, the vast majority of labor, construction, and retail is immigrant or first gen minorities. Often Mexican, but many other Hispanic South American. Perhaps this is typical of urban areas? I dunno. But I no longer see many Caucasians in these types of employment. It seems like we're becoming a two-tiered society, a new Antebellum South even when not South and way Postbellum!
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Companies that hire American workers at top wages can't compete with companies that employ cheap illegal labor.

And many US employers are in a constant struggle to control operating cost in hope they might remain competitive.

The only way to stop this madness is to secure the border, enforce immigration laws and nullify all loophole magnets.

But above all; the US must put an absolute end to rewarding illegal immigrants with amnesty...see Signature below.
 
We should all remember that this is coming from the guy who called the Iraqi terrorists "freedom fighters" as they were killing our guys and called snipers "cowards", forgetting the fact that they have to sneak through enemy lines to do their job like any other soldier.
 
The AntiDonald said:
It's obvious that with all the interviews I've seen with Trumps base, they are too brainwashed to be courted by democrats. They are looking at and listening to a felon in the WH and still adore the moron. I don't see an alternative idea. They are useless idiots that believe all Trumps lies no matter what. All at the same time being conned by the Don.
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How do you propose we get rid of them, if they can't be properly converted in Democrats, or moderates?
 
Casca XV said:
Does anyone actually doubt that if the American Left ever achieves it's goal of "Total Power" mass graves and concentration camps wont quickly become a reality. It's happened every other time and place they got control.
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What does total power mean, like the first two years of the Obama presidency when they controlled the executive and legislative branch?

Or does that not count because you're wrong.
 
Mustachio said:
What does total power mean, like the first two years of the Obama presidency when they controlled the executive and legislative branch?

Or does that not count because you're wrong.
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Yea and you all still couldn't do all the **** you all want to do now even with total control lol.
 
Besides you guys lost total control in the early 90s too by raising taxes and that's when republicans captured congress for the first time in 40 years.
 
bradt99 said:
Besides you guys lost total control in the early 90s too by raising taxes and that's when republicans captured congress for the first time in 40 years.
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Clinton signing NAFTA was pretty much the Democratic Party deciding that the white working class needed replacing.
 
truthatallcost said:
Clinton signing NAFTA was pretty much the Democratic Party deciding that the white working class needed replacing.
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You're right and NAFTA destroyed many good paying jobs. I don't think the dems cared.
 
bradt99 said:
Besides you guys lost total control in the early 90s too by raising taxes and that's when republicans captured congress for the first time in 40 years.
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No doubt many Democrats are laughing their butts off that so many of “you guys” are upset over Michael Moore.
 
truthatallcost said:
Speaking with MSNBC on Wednesday, extreme left winger Michael Moore said,

"Job One for the election next year is to make sure that we not only get rid of Trump or Trump’s replacement, but we get rid of that which gave us Trump. That’s really what the real issue should be.”

Moore then hinted at who he wants to get rid of - the white working class.

"The majority of the working class actually -- are women, people of color and young people -- are paid the least. So, when we say working class, it’s always, we’re always evoking this image of lunch bucket Joe. The actual working class of 2019 is a 30-year-old black woman. That’s really the working class. And when you say working class, I want everybody to always think, now, that’s a 30-year-old black woman, because that is what the working class is.”

Moore doesn't even have his facts straight. White Americans comprise 59% of the working class, and are around 60% of the total population. Black women are not the new face of the working class, sorry Professor Sloppy.

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Michael Moore says Democrats''' '''Job One''' is removing Trump from '''our White House''' | Fox News

Who Makes Up The Working Class, in 3 Graphs - CityLab
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Not only does he look like a fat old lesbian, he uses their talking points too.

Checkerboard Strangler said:
You don't listen well.
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He ain't listening to the words that are written well...

Your post are better then Agent J's:lamo

He said that they are paid the least and that is why they are actually "the face of the American working class" now.

That's totally "root for the underdog" boilerplate, and if it's one thing Moore is all about it's rooting for the underdog.
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He's dog-whistling to low IQ idiots and you people are eating it right up.

He said that the real FACE of the working class a 30 year old black woman because thirty year-old black women currently get the dirty end of the stick IN our working class.
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30 year black women have the same opportunity as everyone else. Just because the lack the cognitive capability and social skills to move up in their fields of employment, it doesn't mean they got black end of the stick. It means they're lazy bitches that are to stupid to better themselves or try harder. I wouldn't even blame it all on bad parenting, I'd blame on low life scumbags like Moore convincing them that they're victims of white oppression. Which leads them to believe the problem is not with them but with the racist white society, when problem has always been with them.

If you really want to fix the problem, try helping to better your people and their communities. Begging whitey to give you jobs you aren't qualified for makes you look like a "punk ass bitch", which is a phrase commonly used by the black community and is very fitting.
 
I can see Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi in a hot loving embrace spawning the likes of AOC taking over the country and turning it into Nuevo Venezuela. There may be something seriously wrong with me.
 
lemmiwinx said:
I can see Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi in a hot loving embrace spawning the likes of AOC taking over the country and turning it into Nuevo Venezuela. There may be something seriously wrong with me.
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I never judge another man's sexual fantasies. :shrug:

However, there is something seriously wrong with someone who thinks "Nuevo Venezuela" is the goal of progressives. It's called being a victim of propaganda. Do you think it's a coincidence you always use Venezuela when you try and pick a nation whose policies you want to ascribe to Democrats?
 
Deuce said:
I never judge another man's sexual fantasies. :shrug:

However, there is something seriously wrong with someone who thinks "Nuevo Venezuela" is the goal of progressives. It's called being a victim of propaganda. Do you think it's a coincidence you always use Venezuela when you try and pick a nation whose policies you want to ascribe to Democrats?
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I think Cuba or Haiti would be similar examples to socialist Venezuela if that makes you feel any better.
 
Michael Moore represents the worst of modern liberalism, and his brand of government would marginalize his opposition to the point of oppression.
 
No need to get rid of them, They're all dying off..
 
Mustachio said:
What does total power mean, like the first two years of the Obama presidency when they controlled the executive and legislative branch?

Or does that not count because you're wrong.
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Beyond that: Their political opposition were still protected by the Bill of Right and could participate in elections. Incase you had not noticed todays American Left is working to erode those things.

Their goal is to have the same level of power Mao had in China, Stalin had in Russia, Hitler had in Germany.

Unlike Hitler their motivation in choosing victims may not be race and religion. But as we saw with Stalin and Mao the outcome will be just as horrific.
 
Casca XV said:
Beyond that: Their political opposition were still protected by the Bill of Right and could participate in elections. Incase you had not noticed todays American Left is working to erode those things.

Their goal is to have the same level of power Mao had in China, Stalin had in Russia, Hitler had in Germany.

Unlike Hitler their motivation in choosing victims may not be race and religion. But as we saw with Stalin and Mao the outcome will be just as horrific.
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I disagree with your last sentence. They've wanted to destroy white, heterosexual, Christian males for 100 years. This was the goal of American communists, and its worked out fairly well for them.
 
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