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    So What ? True American Patriots put country before party. Something Trump and his gullible supporters no longer practice, or believe in.
    Is that progressives have been for that last 3 years, putting country ahead of party?

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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

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    And the IG said the leaker arguably has political bias towards POTUS

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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFox76 View Post
    The only feasible reason I can think of that the WB would need to testify is if there was no one else to corroborate the complaint. At this point the person could be standing on a street corner with a sign saying--I hate Trump! and it wouldn't change the fact there have been several people stepping forward who have verified the claims.
    Yeah. But protecting the WB's identity has denied the Trumpkin's their "gawd-given rite" to call him/her a poopy-head, crooked, small handed, lazy, loser. Or whatever insult Cambridge Analytica tells them to call them. They can't defend against the message to they take pot shots at the messenger. It's who they are. It's what they do.

    You really upset the school yard bully when you make him takes swings at the shadows on the gymnasium wall. Like Don Quixote fighting a windmill. Drives 'em bat**** crazy.

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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

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    As I predicted. These cockroaches bed deep

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    Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations


    A CIA officer who filed a second-hand whistleblower complaint against President Trump has gotten cold feet about testifying after revelations emerged that he worked with Joe Biden, former CIA Director John Brennan, and a DNC operative who sought dirt on President Trump from officials in Ukraine's former government.

    According to the Washington Examiner, discussions with the whistleblower - revealed by RealClearInvestigations as 33-year-old Eric Ciaramella have been halted, "and there is no discussion of testimony from a second whistleblower, who supported the first's claims."

    There is no indication that either of the original whistleblowers will be called to testify or appear before the Senate or House Intelligence committees. There is no further discussion ongoing between the legal team and the committees," said the Examiner's source.

    The whistleblower is a career CIA officer with expertise in Ukraine policy who served on the White House National Security Council during the Obama administration, when 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was "point man" for Ukraine, and during the early months of the Trump administration. -Washington Examiner

    Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations | Zero Hedge
    So, you admit Trump broke the law by outing a whistleblower?

    Awesome!
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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

    Quote Originally Posted by VySky View Post
    As I predicted. These cockroaches bed deep

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    Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations


    A CIA officer who filed a second-hand whistleblower complaint against President Trump has gotten cold feet about testifying after revelations emerged that he worked with Joe Biden, former CIA Director John Brennan, and a DNC operative who sought dirt on President Trump from officials in Ukraine's former government.

    According to the Washington Examiner, discussions with the whistleblower - revealed by RealClearInvestigations as 33-year-old Eric Ciaramella have been halted, "and there is no discussion of testimony from a second whistleblower, who supported the first's claims."

    There is no indication that either of the original whistleblowers will be called to testify or appear before the Senate or House Intelligence committees. There is no further discussion ongoing between the legal team and the committees," said the Examiner's source.

    The whistleblower is a career CIA officer with expertise in Ukraine policy who served on the White House National Security Council during the Obama administration, when 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was "point man" for Ukraine, and during the early months of the Trump administration. -Washington Examiner

    Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations | Zero Hedge
    First, this is from ZeroFact..... one of the most prolific sites for conspiracy and fake news one can find on the Internet. The site is HQ in Bulgaria, a former Soviet bloc country. You should be embarrassed that you even read this smut. I feel dirty even reading the MediaBiasFactCheck on this.

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    Overall, we rate Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website. (8/18/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 7/17/2018)..."


    It has had the desired effect on you.... it raised your blood-pressure on a story that is very likely a complete fabrication. A news source from Bulgaria? Really? You want us to take this seriously?

    Now, as to the overall message: Why don't you get that it just doesn't matter who the WB is or what he believes? It is all irrelevant. The Whistleblower could be a Nazi, a communist, a Russian, a Trump University "attendee" that forms at the mouth at the mention of Trump, or an escapee from Area 51. He (or she) is completely irrelevant at this point. The WB pulled the fire alarm, notified authorities and got out of the way..... His work is done. The impeachment will stand solely on the merits of the investigation that ensued, not on anything the whisteblower has to say or has said.

    Again, lay off the political porn. We now understand where you get your ideas, and it explains a lot to us all. It does NOTHING to enhance your credibility as a poster.
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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

    Simply because the House (100% the "prosecution" as in a GJ presentation) won't call the presumed WB does not mean that the Senate cannot do so after articles of impeachment are presented to them. Since it is the (political?) motive of Trump which is being questioned, it is fair to examine the (political?) motive of the WB as well, especially since at the time (of the initial complaint) the WB was discussing a classified and privileged conversation - quite possibly with uncleared persons which is a crime.
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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Is that progressives have been for that last 3 years, putting country ahead of party?

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    Of course. That is why we are heading towards an impeachment....rightfully so...
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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Is that progressives have been for that last 3 years, putting country ahead of party?

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    Ah, Yes. Most of us sincerely believe that Trump is the greatest threat to American democracy since the Civil War, and maybe even beyond that. This is not a normal president, nor is a President that would put American first, in front of his own interests. That makes him dangerous. The fact that he is woefully short on knowledge of world affairs and won't listen to those that are makes him a very, very dangerous man.

    I don't believe you grasp the severity of the crisis from the perspective of most of America. And, since we are fundamentally a democracy where the opinion of the majority is to be at least respected, if not followed, disrespecting the half of the country that finds this man offensive, is offensive in itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    Things aren't going well for the witch hunters & their lunatic enablers.

    So very sad.

    Dont get overconfident about this. Its important to understand the major subtexts that are at play here. Impeaching Trump is just a slight of hand they are using as an end to a means.

    This is a PR campaghin to convince the public that Trump does not deserve a 2nd term and its a smokescreen to obfuscate the reports that are coming. Make no mistake the die cast, they are gonna claim anything damning revealed by horrowitz and Durham is meant to distract us from the REAL crimes Trump is committing.

    Its as obvious as the nose on your face to those of us who are paying attention but dont underestimate the impact it will have with the casaul political followers. The threat these people pose should not be taken lightly. Dont assume everyone is as smart as you.

    Imo the best thing trump supporters can do is to engage people with calm noninflamatory discussions of whats taking place. People need to be woke but not in the progressive sense of the word. They need to understand what the progessive threat is in a way that allows them to put the pieces together on their own. Hyperbole imo is the wrong approach

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    Re: Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    First, this is from ZeroFact..... one of the most prolific sites for conspiracy and fake news one can find on the Internet. The site is HQ in Bulgaria, a former Soviet bloc country. You should be embarrassed that you even read this smut. I feel dirty even reading the MediaBiasFactCheck on this.

    Zero Hedge - Media Bias/Fact Check

    "....A factual search reveals a terrible track record with IFCN fact checkers. There are too many failed checks to list here.

    Overall, we rate Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website. (8/18/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 7/17/2018)..."


    It has had the desired effect on you.... it raised your blood-pressure on a story that is very likely a complete fabrication. A news source from Bulgaria? Really? You want us to take this seriously?

    Now, as to the overall message: Why don't you get that it just doesn't matter who the WB is or what he believes? It is all irrelevant. The Whistleblower could be a Nazi, a communist, a Russian, a Trump University "attendee" that forms at the mouth at the mention of Trump, or an escapee from Area 51. He (or she) is completely irrelevant at this point. The WB pulled the fire alarm, notified authorities and got out of the way..... His work is done. The impeachment will stand solely on the merits of the investigation that ensued, not on anything the whisteblower has to say or has said.

    Again, lay off the political porn. We now understand where you get your ideas, and it explains a lot to us all. It does NOTHING to enhance your credibility as a poster.


    Irrelevant nonsense.

    We're known for weeks that the leaking CIA termite was a traitorous Democrat cockroach.
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