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Tucker: "So Many Progressives Mourning John Bolton's Firing"

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At 2:50 Tucker makes the asinine comments about John Bolton being of the 'left'. For those who don't want to watch the video (I don't blame you) he pretty much said by believing the government could be used to effect positive change (e.g. military interventionism), Bolton is a Progressive/leftist. Of course, Tucker doesn't apply the same principle to himself when it comes to his support of the government building a border wall, immigration, etc. Due to his unwavering support of Trump, I would not doubt he also supports our continued increase of the military budget. I'm also sure he would not have applied this odd definition of 'leftist' to himself when he initially supported the Iraq War.



Tucker: "Bolton was one of the most progressive people in the Trump Administration."

:doh
 
Tucker states Chris Murphy said he was, "Legitimately shaken to see Bolton leave the White House."

Murphy's tweet stated:

I’m legitimately shaken by the grave instability of American foreign policy today.

I’m no Bolton fan, but the world is coming apart, and the revolving door of U.S. leadership is disappearing America from the world just at the moment where a stable American hand is most needed.


Tucker's liberal 'paraphrasing' of Murphy was nowhere close to accurate. But I guess it is only the 'left-wing' media that spreads 'fake news.' :roll:
 
Republicans hate each other more than they hate Democrats. They don’t trust anyone, and now they all lock-step hate Bolton, just like they’ve hated on all of those who’ve left this administration, including the generals.

Since 1964, GOP Primaries have been hatefests, except the re-election years of 1972, 1984, and 2004. The truest cowards of all right now in America are the GOP Senators, whether it’s foreign or domestic policy.
 
At 2:50 Tucker makes the asinine comments about John Bolton being of the 'left'. For those who don't want to watch the video (I don't blame you) he pretty much said by believing the government could be used to effect positive change (e.g. military interventionism), Bolton is a Progressive/leftist. Of course, Tucker doesn't apply the same principle to himself when it comes to his support of the government building a border wall, immigration, etc. Due to his unwavering support of Trump, I would not doubt he also supports our continued increase of the military budget. I'm also sure he would not have applied this odd definition of 'leftist' to himself when he initially supported the Iraq War.



Tucker: "Bolton was one of the most progressive people in the Trump Administration."

:doh


Tucker is, as usual, completely right. The left hates him for it because they've entirely sold out to the pro-war lobby.
 
Tucker is, as usual, completely right. The left hates him for it because they've entirely sold out to the pro-war lobby.

The left has completely sold out to the pro-war lobby? What is this, the Twilight Zone?

Who was protesting Bush's push to go into Iraq? It certainly wasn't Tucker Carlson. It wasn't the right-wing voters. They were in lock-step with Bush's neo-con nation-building agenda. It was the anti-war left around the world who protested in the streets. Far right Fox News commentators mocked the anti-war movement.

Aside from that, Tucker's definition of a Progressive is completely asinine.
 
The left has completely sold out to the pro-war lobby?

Yes. You can tell that they've sold out by their fondness for neocons like John Bolton (or Bill Kristol, Max Boot, etc.).

Who was protesting Bush's push to go into Iraq?

Donald Trump
 
Aside from that, Tucker's definition of a Progressive is completely asinine.

The neo-cons are quintessentially progressive. Their entire shtick is launching (unwanted and unhelpful) crusades against those who don't live according to their own narrow view of the world. It's the same impulse that motivates SJWs, played out on an international scale.
 
The left has completely sold out to the pro-war lobby? What is this, the Twilight Zone?

Who was protesting Bush's push to go into Iraq? It certainly wasn't Tucker Carlson. It wasn't the right-wing voters. They were in lock-step with Bush's neo-con nation-building agenda. It was the anti-war left around the world who protested in the streets. Far right Fox News commentators mocked the anti-war movement.

Aside from that, Tucker's definition of a Progressive is completely asinine.

TC forgets how many times trump has bragged about how big his defense bill is, and also conveniently forgets to mention how much is being diverted from the military to build his worthless medieval wall.

Since we have a part-time Congress, there is little time for anything but a CR. A shutdown is still very possible on October 1st, especially over the issue of backlisting the 127 military projects trump put on hold.
 
Yes. You can tell that they've sold out by their fondness for neocons like John Bolton (or Bill Kristol, Max Boot, etc.).

If you are talking about the corporate media then you have no idea what defines the 'left.' And even the corporate media is generally apprehensive about the neocons you mentioned, especially John Bolton.


Donald Trump

When Trump was asked in 2002 by Howard Stern if he supports a war against Iraq he repllied, "Yeah, I guess so."

That doesn't sound like someone protesting Bush's push to go into Iraq.
 
Tucker is, as usual, completely right. The left hates him for it because they've entirely sold out to the pro-war lobby.

Who was it that protested Vietnam, protested the Iraq war? I’ll give you a hint it wasn’t right wingers so no, you’re comments as usual are wrong and idiotic like Tucker’s.
 
The neo-cons are quintessentially progressive. Their entire shtick is launching (unwanted and unhelpful) crusades against those who don't live according to their own narrow view of the world.

Then how do you explain the fact the vast majority of Progressives opposed nation-building and the Iraq War? Your 'logic' doesn't add up.
 
sorry not sorry, bow tie boy. there is no way that i am going to mourn a neocon war hawk psycho getting fired from anything even if Chancellor Squirrelhead is doing the firing.
 
At 2:50 Tucker makes the asinine comments about John Bolton being of the 'left'. For those who don't want to watch the video (I don't blame you) he pretty much said by believing the government could be used to effect positive change (e.g. military interventionism), Bolton is a Progressive/leftist. Of course, Tucker doesn't apply the same principle to himself when it comes to his support of the government building a border wall, immigration, etc. Due to his unwavering support of Trump, I would not doubt he also supports our continued increase of the military budget. I'm also sure he would not have applied this odd definition of 'leftist' to himself when he initially supported the Iraq War.



Tucker: "Bolton was one of the most progressive people in the Trump Administration."

:doh


He referred to him as a Neo-con numerous times and should have just stuck with that. The Bolton is a progressive argument wasnt convincing.
 
Tucker is, as usual, completely right. The left hates him for it because they've entirely sold out to the pro-war lobby.

You're calling Bush and Trump "the progressive left"? You realize it's Republicans who keep giving this asshole a job and Democrats who keep complaining about it, right? You Trump cultists are completely allergic to reality. I bet you think Mike Pence is a Democratic sweetheart as well. :lamo
 
The left has completely sold out to the pro-war lobby? What is this, the Twilight Zone?

Who was protesting Bush's push to go into Iraq? It certainly wasn't Tucker Carlson. It wasn't the right-wing voters. They were in lock-step with Bush's neo-con nation-building agenda. It was the anti-war left around the world who protested in the streets. Far right Fox News commentators mocked the anti-war movement.

Aside from that, Tucker's definition of a Progressive is completely asinine.


I would like your post, but I would have to watch this clown in order to do so.
 
You're calling Bush and Trump "the progressive left"? You realize it's Republicans who keep giving this asshole a job and Democrats who keep complaining about it, right? You Trump cultists are completely allergic to reality. I bet you think Mike Pence is a Democratic sweetheart as well. :lamo

Never expect reactionary right wingers to be consistent.

John Bolton was one of their folk heroes. His act, as UN ambassador, consisted of belligerent chest beating, insulting everyone around him, alienating his colleagues, and a series of diplomatic disasters.

But his red meat jingoism, and his parochial chest beating played like gangbusters with the flat earth crowd in the red states.

He was making nice bank breathing his chest on Fox. Then the lure of power got to him.

Like Trump, Bolton thanks he is superior to everyone around him, and is very petty and vindictive.

Bolton has a long history of berating and belittling staff members in public (as Trump does).

So it is poetic justice that he met his end in the same manner as he dispatched his own subordinates over the years.

Another thing Bolton and Trump have in common is that both insist on having the last word.

I guess it took all day for Fox to come up with some ridiculous self serving drivel to justify Trump’s latest tantrum.

The truth is that this episode demonstrates, once again, how unprofessional, small minded and petty both men are.
 
He referred to him as a Neo-con numerous times and should have just stuck with that. The Bolton is a progressive argument wasnt convincing.


That wouldn’t have worked.

Carlson’s act is very low brow, and you need to understand that the audience is not well informed and has a very short and selective attention span (and memory).

Most of them don’t even know what a Neo Con is (or was). Right wing media has transformed it into code word for anyone who isn’t a 1920’s isolationist.

It would take on a few minutes on Google for just about anyone to come up with enough video to bury anyone with video of Carlson praising all of the Bush neo cons.

Fox was all in for the Neo Cons.
 
That wouldn’t have worked.

Carlson’s act is very low brow, and you need to understand that the audience is not well informed and has a very short and selective attention span (and memory).

Most of them don’t even know what a Neo Con is (or was). Right wing media has transformed it into code word for anyone who isn’t a 1920’s isolationist.

It would take on a few minutes on Google for just about anyone to come up with enough video to bury anyone with video of Carlson praising all of the Bush neo cons.

Fox was all in for the Neo Cons.

You liberals all think you are 'high brow' but youre not. There are few things, in fact, that are less intellectually impressive than a modern day liberal. Arrogance is a poor substitute for intelligence.
 
The left has completely sold out to the pro-war lobby? What is this, the Twilight Zone?

Who was protesting Bush's push to go into Iraq? It certainly wasn't Tucker Carlson. It wasn't the right-wing voters. They were in lock-step with Bush's neo-con nation-building agenda. It was the anti-war left around the world who protested in the streets. Far right Fox News commentators mocked the anti-war movement.

Aside from that, Tucker's definition of a Progressive is completely asinine.

Welcome to 2019, where have you been the last decade? The fact you skip completely over the Obama administration to go after Bush and Iraq makes me wonder if you were just completely ignorant of what was going on under Obama or simply partisan hackery. Just an FYI, both Hillary AND Bernie had more donations from Defense contractors than any Republican in 2016 so to say they sold out to the pro-war lobby seems fairly accurate. The idea that either party isn't complicit in these stupid wars is rather ludicrous at this point.
 
Tucker states Chris Murphy said he was, "Legitimately shaken to see Bolton leave the White House."

Murphy's tweet stated:

I’m legitimately shaken by the grave instability of American foreign policy today.

I’m no Bolton fan, but the world is coming apart, and the revolving door of U.S. leadership is disappearing America from the world just at the moment where a stable American hand is most needed.


Tucker's liberal 'paraphrasing' of Murphy was nowhere close to accurate. But I guess it is only the 'left-wing' media that spreads 'fake news.' :roll:

Tucker appeals to the country's lowest common denominator, and the least educated people in the USA. Trump supporters.

No surprise he lied through his teeth.
 
This thread is a good example of what has happened to this nation.

Tucker, as usual, is being very dishonest, intentionally misleading, and a hyper-partisan about the whole thing.

John Bolton and his position on the Middle East is one rooted in Republican views of foreign policy for that area of the world going back decades, some of that thinking on which government is a target for change matching the ideological positions responses during the Bush 43 / Cheney time frame, and we have no evidence whatsoever that interventionism in terms of regime change in this area of the world ever was or became a liberal position.

It is unlikely that many "progressives" are "mourning" the firing of John Bolton.

They may greatly question Trump in who he hires or the reasoning for a firing, they may question the revolving door mentality of his administration, they may question how much Trump needs to be surrounded by those that kiss his ass, and they may question Trump's decisions that arguably give better position to other nations we are concerned about... but I doubt any real liberal thought highly of John Bolton.

We have another matter that is more important to discuss.

It could be argued very well that all of our confusing, hypocritical, and disastrous foreign policy going back at least 40 years has put us in a position where there are less options today to deal with conditions in this area of the world. To continue on the path put forth prior to Trump (and perhaps prior to Obama as well) means eventual war with Iran. The who likes who and why map for the Middle East is even more difficult today.

But it could also be argued very well, and Tucker has mentioned this before, that our policy has had consequences.

Our longest war (conflict, intervention, whatever the term is today) in US history is Afghanistan and that mess is still going on almost 18 years later, with plenty of loss of life, and no real solution in sight as the enemy listed for that conflict with ties in responsibility to 9-11 is still around.

Our war in Iraq did not turn out to well either. While we did remove a horrible dictator (who we once supported ironically because of his fight with Iran) we also ended up with terrorism where it was not before, a mess of ideological division where parts of the nation are *still* not under control, and a spill over into another mess. A long term multiple way civil war in Syria with interventionism from the West and Russia.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, etc... no where we have been involved, no matter how directly or indirectly, has resulted in peace.

John Bolton is a hallmark of a failed policy with plenty of blood in multiple nations never resulting in peace, as a liberal I am happy he is not in the ear of Trump begging for yet another mess in this area of the world.

The only place Tucker Carlson has been right is about what Iraq resulted in and what Iran would turn into, however his partisanship means only talking about it when someone he does not like is at the mic. That is worth calling out.
 
You liberals all think you are 'high brow' but youre not. There are few things, in fact, that are less intellectually impressive than a modern day liberal. Arrogance is a poor substitute for intelligence.

Yawn.
 
I wish progressives (or democrats or republicans) were hawks. Those that are know how alone we are.
 
At 2:50 Tucker makes the asinine comments about John Bolton being of the 'left'. For those who don't want to watch the video (I don't blame you) he pretty much said by believing the government could be used to effect positive change (e.g. military interventionism), Bolton is a Progressive/leftist.

Military interventionism is a positive change?
Geoist might think that but Carlson sure doesn't believe it.
He's always been against interventionism.
Against use of big G Government when not in our interest.
Bolton is not.
That was Carlson's point.

Of course, Tucker doesn't apply the same principle to himself when it comes to his support of the government building a border wall, immigration, etc. Due to his unwavering support of Trump, I would not doubt he also supports our continued increase of the military budget. I'm also sure he would not have applied this odd definition of 'leftist' to himself when he initially supported the Iraq War.

You don't see the difference between big G Government enforcing our domestic Laws and big G Government military interventionism around the globe? Really?
 
At 2:50 Tucker makes the asinine comments about John Bolton being of the 'left'. For those who don't want to watch the video (I don't blame you) he pretty much said by believing the government could be used to effect positive change (e.g. military interventionism), Bolton is a Progressive/leftist. Of course, Tucker doesn't apply the same principle to himself when it comes to his support of the government building a border wall, immigration, etc. Due to his unwavering support of Trump, I would not doubt he also supports our continued increase of the military budget. I'm also sure he would not have applied this odd definition of 'leftist' to himself when he initially supported the Iraq War.



Tucker: "Bolton was one of the most progressive people in the Trump Administration."

:doh


So, who is dumber: Tucker or his viewers? Tough question, imo.
 
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