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Fox News CEO Admits That The Network Is Not In The News Business

Checkerboard Strangler said:
Re-read what I said:



Yes...I did show Maddow admitting her bias.
I also did not label her a reporter, as she is primarily a PUNDIT and commentator.

When it comes to hard news reporting, it is safe to say that CNN, FNC and MSNBC all have somewhat similar track records.
Television and radio hard news reporters aren't generally tasked with crafting commentary.
But cable news channels RUN COMMENTARY and pundit shows in between news dumps. All cable news channels do this.

Are you looking for a clip where a member of MSNBC or CNN top brass management sits before the camera and says:
"We admit it, our channel is biased" ???

You let me know when Rupert Murdoch does it on Fox and I'll start scraping the internet to see if the other two did the same.
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Who the hell believes the "fair and balanced" slogan anyway?
 
enderpotato00 said:
Who the hell believes the "fair and balanced" slogan anyway?
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Television does nothing unless there is a dedicated profit producing reason to do something.
"Fair and Balanced" was found to strongly resonate with the Fox News demographic, thus the answer to your question is:

enderpotato00 said:
Who the hell believes the "fair and balanced" slogan anyway?
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FOX NEWS VIEWERS, that's who.

It's no different than the Dallas Cowboys marketing themselves as "America's Football Team!" .... in a market where no other nations even PLAY "American football". Doesn't matter to the Cowboys, it's a slogan that resonates, and that is all they care about.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Television does nothing unless there is a dedicated profit producing reason to do something.
"Fair and Balanced" was found to strongly resonate with the Fox News demographic, thus the answer to your question is:



FOX NEWS VIEWERS, that's who.

It's no different than the Dallas Cowboys marketing themselves as "America's Football Team!" .... in a market where no other nations even PLAY "American football". Doesn't matter to the Cowboys, it's a slogan that resonates, and that is all they care about.
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I've watched Fox, but I recognize it is conservative bias.
 
enderpotato00 said:
I've watched Fox, but I recognize it is conservative bias.
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And it's a conservatively biased network for two main reasons.

1. There was a market and they sensed the need and filled it.
2. Rupert Murdoch WANTS it that way.

That market is beginning to shrink even DESPITE FNC's excellent ratings numbers.

The median age of Fox News viewers is 65.
According to Nielsen ratings, the median age of Fox’s audience was 66 in 2016.

In his analysis of Ingraham’s broadcast (“White Anxiety Find a Home at Fox News”), CNN’s Brian Stelter noted the racial composition of the Fox News audience, saying it was nearly “100% white.” Stelter later published the exact numbers from Nielsen via Twitter. His estimate was close enough: From January through August 2018, Fox News viewers were “94% White, 3% Hispanic, 2% Asian, and 1% Black.”

At some point, Rupert Murdoch is going to die.
His kids are NOT LIBERALS by ANY stretch of the imagination but they do not share their father's extreme worldview and have stated as much in rare interviews.
FNC is the last NewsCorp property that the old man still has day to day control over, and with Ailes cold and in the ground, the old man has wrested back even more control in his declining years. It is a safe bet that the day the old man finally passes away, you will see a gradual change in the content and character of Fox News Channel.

That change has already begun, in small furtive steps.



Several Fox News Analysts Remind Trump They Don’t Work For Him
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Re-read what I said:



Yes...I did show Maddow admitting her bias.
I also did not label her a reporter, as she is primarily a PUNDIT and commentator.

Then I don't know why you chose to use her as an example. Strange.

When it comes to hard news reporting, it is safe to say that CNN, FNC and MSNBC all have somewhat similar track records.
Television and radio hard news reporters aren't generally tasked with crafting commentary.
But cable news channels RUN COMMENTARY and pundit shows in between news dumps. All cable news channels do this.

True, and so does Fox.

Are you looking for a clip where a member of MSNBC or CNN top brass management sits before the camera and says:
"We admit it, our channel is biased" ???

No, I'm not. I'm looking for where the reporters (not commentators) have admitted their bias.

You let me know when Rupert Murdoch does it on Fox and I'll start scraping the internet to see if the other two did the same.
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I wouldn't task you with such a ridiculous errand.
 
Overitall said:
I wouldn't task you with such a ridiculous errand.
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Well all I ever said was that the other networks are aware of their bias, some there have admitted it and from time to time they let a lunker mistake get through. But Fox News uses a recipe that differs from the other two majors.

You know when Christiane Amanpour, Wolf Blitzer, Eryn Burnett or Michael Smerconish are on, it's probably hard news for the most part.
No one ever "throws" a breaking news story to Maddow or to Van Jones or Mike Rowe, because they aren't hard news jockeys, they are "personalities".

Fox News uses a recipe that blurs the lines between hard news reporting and analysis.
That's because, as Ailes says, "The thinking is done for you."
 
lwf said:
The agenda of the MSM is not political, it is capital. Fox News appears to be politically conservative because they have found a lucrative target audience in conservatives. In reality, if that audience were to suddenly switch to liberal beliefs and prefer to watch liberal-leaning news, Fox News would follow suit instantly.

The MSM News attempts to balance (with varying degrees of success) journalism ethics with profits. They draw their viewers with lurid headlines, and then attempt to report the facts. "Alternative media" focuses almost exclusively on profits so long as their unethical practices don't drive viewers or readers away. They take liberties with facts in order to take advantage of confirmation bias and make their money on the gullibility of their viewers or readers. That's why sites like Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media are so important.
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Much of what you say is true, but in fact the MSM is very much an official source of misinformation and propaganda, as they are demonstrating this week in telling again the lies of the official story. Some of their misinformation and propaganda is benign, but most is malignant.

Operation Mockingbird has never left us. Yes, the MSM is interested in making money, no question, but they have no qualms about pushing false narratives as Judith Miller and NYT demonstrated in the early days of the GWOT. Truth is the first casualty of war.
 
Lovebug said:
Old story, but relevant in that we don't have enough news to fill 24 hrs. Opinions and commentary fill the remainder of the day. Even HLN has fillers. It is all good.
What I'd like to see instead of people being payed for their opinions, is more good news, more positive stories about everyday people living in harmony with each other.
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Unfortunately its all about money.

Ad sales and political power for the donor class that pays for political ads.
 
HumblePi said:
Fox never really claimed to be a 'news' network. .
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Fox was conceived to promote the then GOP. It became radical and birthed the Tea Baggers.

This morphed into the lowly Trumpet.

News was never the intent. Propaganda was. In this regard, Fox stands alone among the majors.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Much of what you say is true, but in fact the MSM is very much an official source of misinformation and propaganda, as they are demonstrating this week in telling again the lies of the official story. Some of their misinformation and propaganda is benign, but most is malignant.

Operation Mockingbird has never left us. Yes, the MSM is interested in making money, no question, but they have no qualms about pushing false narratives as Judith Miller and NYT demonstrated in the early days of the GWOT. Truth is the first casualty of war.
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There will always be "sources" that attempt to sway the news, there will always be careless journalists who buy into this propaganda and write it up as if it were fact, and there will always be publishers who see dollar signs and prematurely publish these reports. As long as there are fact-checkers who embarrass them and call them out for these blunders and as long as their reputations suffer, then the system is self correcting.
 
What if...? said:
Unfortunately its all about money.

Ad sales and political power for the donor class that pays for political ads.
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Not to mention catering to what people want to hear.
 
Overitall said:
If news is defined as being informative then I don’t see why fox doesn’t fit the bill.
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You are reading post from a group of people who believe any opinion differently from theirs is faulty. Yet they claim that “Faux” News is phony, thereby admitting that they watch it a lot!

I don’t have blame them. CNN is crumbling, and MSNBC has become the refuge of the last of the “Tin Foil Hat Brigade”, so there isn’t much left for them to chew on.
 
lwf said:
There will always be "sources" that attempt to sway the news, there will always be careless journalists who buy into this propaganda and write it up as if it were fact, and there will always be publishers who see dollar signs and prematurely publish these reports. As long as there are fact-checkers who embarrass them and call them out for these blunders and as long as their reputations suffer, then the system is self correcting.
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Self correcting?

I don't share your optimism. If that were the case, why are we still in Afghanistan and Iraq, why is the global war of terror still running strong?

The MSM has never offered the truth as so much of alternative media have. Why does MSM still repeat the lies of 911 every year? Why hasn't MSM corrected the obvious falsehoods related to TWA800 or Abbottabad or so many other falsehoods they repeat as needed?
 
chuckiechan said:
You are reading post from a group of people who believe any opinion differently from theirs is faulty. Yet they claim that “Faux” News is phony, thereby admitting that they watch it a lot!

I don’t have blame them. CNN is crumbling, and MSNBC has become the refuge of the last of the “Tin Foil Hat Brigade”, so there isn’t much left for them to chew on.
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Yea, I always thought it was odd how people who despise something so much would know to despise it so much unless they watched it.
 
Overitall said:
Yea, I always thought it was odd how people who despise something so much would know to despise it so much unless they watched it.
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It's called being informed. Try it, you may like it.
 
Mach said:
It's called being informed. Try it, you may like it.
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How far down in your juvenile bag did you have to reach to come up with that one?
 
Thoreau72 said:
Self correcting?

I don't share your optimism. If that were the case, why are we still in Afghanistan and Iraq, why is the global war of terror still running strong?

The MSM has never offered the truth as so much of alternative media have. Why does MSM still repeat the lies of 911 every year? Why hasn't MSM corrected the obvious falsehoods related to TWA800 or Abbottabad or so many other falsehoods they repeat as needed?
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The alternative media doesn't offer truth, they offer confirmation bias disguised at truth. When people start to believe these intricate "secret" narratives that alternative media hawks as "news," the mainstream media news sources reporting the actual facts start to look like a big, nation-wide conspiracy that everyone is in on. If you fall into this category, it might behoove you to reevaluate your standards as to whom you put your trust in. The more you start to believe that you are one of the few elites who are "in the know" about what is REALLY going on behind the scenes, the more likely it is that you have been indoctrinated into a conspiracy theory.
 
HumblePi said:
Fox never really claimed to be a 'news' network. If you haven't seen the Showtime 7 part series 'The Loudest Voice', starring Russell Crowe. It's about Roger Ailes and the sexual harassment accusations that brought his career to an end.
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I have not heard of this show, is it based on fact or dramatization? Sounds interesting
 
lwf said:
The alternative media doesn't offer truth, they offer confirmation bias disguised at truth. When people start to believe these intricate "secret" narratives that alternative media hawks as "news," the mainstream media news sources reporting the actual facts start to look like a big, nation-wide conspiracy that everyone is in on. If you fall into this category, it might behoove you to reevaluate your standards as to whom you put your trust in. The more you start to believe that you are one of the few elites who are "in the know" about what is REALLY going on behind the scenes, the more likely it is that you have been indoctrinated into a conspiracy theory.
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We disagree. The alternative media DOES offer truth. That is why they are censored by some and shunned by TPTB and many posters here on the internet.

That Google and others censor the alternative media and alternative narratives in so many ways confirms that in a time of universal deception, speaking or publishing the truth is a radical act. That is basically why Assange sits in Belmarsh prison.

The truth is fatal to the MSM and its handlers.
 
Superfly said:
Doesn't matter if the article is 4 years old or not.

Fox News isn't any more "news" today than it was 4 years ago. If possible, it's less, as it's now more of a state propaganda tool.
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People who watch Fox "News" are less informed about current events than those who do not receive any kind of news.
 
It should be abundantly clear to anyone who watches any of the large news media organizations that the information delivered is a mix of news and opinion based on their respective demographics. The caveat to watching any of them is understanding whom they're catering their content toward; typically that's going to be either a conservative or liberal leaning audience.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Are the events of 4 years ago still relevant?

That should be judged on a case by case basis, but in this case it is relevant, considering the still talked about "fake news" phenomenon.

The agenda of the MSM including Fox is political. Its agenda is NOT to deliver to the people fair and accurate reporting. That's the agenda of "alternative media".
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Actually, most of their programs have commentary persons from both liberals and conservatives on Fox. You won't know that if you never watch. CNN and MSNBC have dominate liberals on their programs with very few conservatives on them. Hannity, for instance, has never said he's a journalist. Some are and some aren't. But, there are by far more journalists in the old sense of the word on Fox than any other network.
 
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