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Trump's Dangerous Threats Against the Media

I just explained I wasn’t paralleling the laws. But please, continue with your fabrications. [emoji2369]

Godwin fell to Godwin’s law. How many posts are we on? If you were going to hand my ass to me, you would have tried already. Made some effort or something besides slobbering all over yourself.

You still haven't said what Godwin's Law is.

And isn't.

Nor have you tried to apply it to me. Which means I'm playing the music here and you are doing the dancing. Last time I looked you had danced right off the floor and away.
 
Everyone knows the mainstream media is creating fake new about Trump, every liberal outlet has had apologies and retractions and Many of them.

Obama could do no wrong to the media, they reported and glorified everything he did, and downplayed or ignored all his negatives.

The liberal press is categorically destroying itself with its quest to demean, insult, disparage and hate on Trump. The NYTS and Wapo have lost readership and NYTS has had massive layoffs, CNN is dead last in ratings, MSNBC has dropped like a rock

The other night CNN had a 7 hr democrat town hall with all the candidates, its rating for that period were DEAD LAST in cable news in the time slot ? What does that tell you, they either dont trust CNN or they didnt want to hear the democrat candidates create more things they were going to give everyone for free, either way it was dead last.


[h=1]CNN’s Ratings For Seven-Hour Global Warming Circus Were Abysmal[/h]https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/09/05/total-flop-cnns-ratings-for-sevenhour-global-warming-circus-were-abysmal-n2552690

And would you believe this is the same media that will bring about an overthrow of our government.

Fact is the mainstream / liberal media is controlled by globalists that seek the destruction of America.
 
You still haven't said what Godwin's Law is.

And isn't.

Nor have you tried to apply it to me. Which means I'm playing the music here and you are doing the dancing. Last time I looked you had danced right off the floor and away.

Pretty sure Godwins law is that invariably in an argument or debate the German Nazi regime will surface and be used as evidence of some sort to prove a point.

I see no problem in bringing up the Nazis for comparing and contrasting.
 
You still haven't said what Godwin's Law is.

And isn't.

Nor have you tried to apply it to me. Which means I'm playing the music here and you are doing the dancing. Last time I looked you had danced right off the floor and away.

If I am dancing to your tune why have I still not met your demands? Huh. [emoji3166]
 
I will not be the one who pays. It is our children who will reap what we have sown.

Biblical.

Trump is meanwhile only beginning to reap the whirlwind he and his rowers have created.

You guys are the crew on the Pequod. So you know who the captain is. And as I say, it suggests the Biblical and the deep blue sea.
 
Pretty sure Godwins law is that invariably in an argument or debate the German Nazi regime will surface and be used as evidence of some sort to prove a point.

I see no problem in bringing up the Nazis for comparing and contrasting.

You're getting hot, which is more than we can say for Aberration who remains stone cold hard and fast on it. :) He did give the post a like however which is noted. So we may be experiencing some progress here.

The bottom line is that Godwin does not negate telling a Nazi he's a Nazi. Godwin's Law says it is 100% right to tell a Nazi he's a Nazi.

After Charlottesville Godwin came forward publicly (on FB) to say the Nazis of Charlottesville are Nazis. Godwin's statement is 100% consistent with Godwin's Law. Godwin didn't need an exemption to his Law to say this, he did not claim or get and exception to his law, nor, in such instances, would Godwin need exempting from his Law. Godwin's Law is clear enough if one reads it and, even better, listens to Godwin himself when he speaks of it as Godwin did immediately after Charlottesville.

And while eventually in a debate somebody invokes Hitler and the Nazis, Trump at Charlottesville beggars the question, as Godwin noted in his Charlottesville statement and Trump's frazzled good guyz on both sides smooching of Nazi ass. At least Trump was in Faulty Tower when he kissed Nazi ass publicly over Charlottesville rather than on the South Lawn of the WH.

As I've noted in scrolling, I seldom or rarely cite Hitler and the Nazis in the current whirlwind that is the Trump presidency. I reference Trumpolini and Mussolini. That is, the emergence of a uniquely American 21st century fascism. I see Trump as being much more like Mussolini and his old time fascists re-formed in the 21st century American context. All the same however, I absolutely do not rule out a Hitler and Nazi equivalent in the contemporary USA that would be foreseeable if Trump and the Nazis of Charlottesville got themselves reelected.
 
As I've noted in scrolling, I seldom or rarely cite Hitler and the Nazis in the current whirlwind that is the Trump presidency. I reference Trumpolini and Mussolini. That is, the emergence of a uniquely American 21st century fascism. I see Trump as being much more like Mussolini and his old time fascists re-formed in the 21st century American context. All the same however, I absolutely do not rule out a Hitler and Nazi equivalent in the contemporary USA that would be foreseeable if Trump and the Nazis of Charlottesville got themselves reelected.

It's interesting to note that Mussolini was a socialist before he was a fascist. And that means fascism was first borne out of a left wing ideology.
It's also interesting to note that Hitler was a socialist. So for what it's worth, I see no problem in correlating present day left wing fascists with their German or Italian counterparts.

A good example of left wing fascism would be the Obama administration (for the entire 8 years) or a hate group like Antifa. Trump, is the opposite of fascist. Polar opposite, in fact. A common mistake the left make is placing the Nazi regime on the right wing. Far from it. Hitler would have voted for Obama. And vice versa.
 
It's interesting to note that Mussolini was a socialist before he was a fascist. And that means fascism was first borne out of a left wing ideology.
It's also interesting to note that Hitler was a socialist. So for what it's worth, I see no problem in correlating present day left wing fascists with their German or Italian counterparts.

A good example of left wing fascism would be the Obama administration (for the entire 8 years) or a hate group like Antifa. Trump, is the opposite of fascist. Polar opposite, in fact. A common mistake the left make is placing the Nazi regime on the right wing. Far from it. Hitler would have voted for Obama. And vice versa.

Fascism is an ideology and a philosophy. We see it here any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

It opposes international organizations because it places the nation state as the supreme entity no matter what, which is how Hitler got away with it for as long as he did. Hegel called the state "the march of God through history." That's youse guyz. Make America Russia Instead. Chop off the top ten floors of the UN. Crash the EU, Nato and so on.

Fascist ideology makes the caucasian race supreme and all other races / ethnicity inferior. That's youse guyz and your wall Mexico is going to pay for. The check's still in the mail I see however.

Fascist ideology assigns women the role of punching out babies and nothing else. That's youse guyz who hate Feminazis because don't do that only. Brett Kavanaugh is youse guy over there.

Fascist ideology rejects democracy and the rule of law in favor of the one strongman dictator who can do it all himself. That's youse guyz who are the Putin-Trump Rowers.

Fascism doesn't negotiate except to make war sooner or later. That's the Republican party and their Conservatives. Youse guyz who don't negotiate anyway.

Fascism hates Jews so when the time comes of fascist rule them thar Jooos had better accept Christ the Savior. Or else. That's the Putin-Trump Evangelical Rowers section of your boat. Row, row, row your boat.

Etc.


Fascism remains such a nasty and wicked word and thing that even the fascists have to deny being fascists. Nazis are however quite up front about it because they don't care that we know they're nuts. They're just going to go ahead anyway. Or so they believe.
 
Fascism is an ideology and a philosophy. We see it here any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

It opposes international organizations because it places the nation state as the supreme entity no matter what, which is how Hitler got away with it for as long as he did. Hegel called the state "the march of God through history." That's youse guyz. Make America Russia Instead. Chop off the top ten floors of the UN. Crash the EU, Nato and so on.

Fascist ideology makes the caucasian race supreme and all other races / ethnicity inferior. That's youse guyz and your wall Mexico is going to pay for. The check's still in the mail I see however.

Fascist ideology assigns women the role of punching out babies and nothing else. That's youse guyz who hate Feminazis because don't do that only. Brett Kavanaugh is youse guy over there.

Fascist ideology rejects democracy and the rule of law in favor of the one strongman dictator who can do it all himself. That's youse guyz who are the Putin-Trump Rowers.

Fascism doesn't negotiate except to make war sooner or later. That's the Republican party and their Conservatives. Youse guyz who don't negotiate anyway.

Fascism hates Jews so when the time comes of fascist rule them thar Jooos had better accept Christ the Savior. Or else. That's the Putin-Trump Evangelical Rowers section of your boat. Row, row, row your boat.

Etc.


Fascism remains such a nasty and wicked word and thing that even the fascists have to deny being fascists. Nazis are however quite up front about it because they don't care that we know they're nuts. They're just going to go ahead anyway. Or so they believe.

There is just so much wrong with this diatribe.....
 
Biblical.

Trump is meanwhile only beginning to reap the whirlwind he and his rowers have created.

You guys are the crew on the Pequod. So you know who the captain is. And as I say, it suggests the Biblical and the deep blue sea.


I am still waiting for Trump to blow up the world. I am still waiting for Trump to start a nuclear war with NK. I am still waiting for the witch hunt to prove Trump is a witch. I am still waiting for Trump to not except defeat during the election. Shall I go on with the lies.
 
I am still waiting for Trump to blow up the world. I am still waiting for Trump to start a nuclear war with NK. I am still waiting for the witch hunt to prove Trump is a witch. I am still waiting for Trump to not except defeat during the election. Shall I go on with the lies.

You've got the wrong lies going there. You're confused.

You need to return to your permanent seat on the far right where you can hear better again. Cause that's where the lies are.

Your post goes OTT anyway. Trump isn't finished yet besides. Neither are we finished over here on this side.
 
Fascism is an ideology and a philosophy. We see it here any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

It opposes international organizations because it places the nation state as the supreme entity no matter what, which is how Hitler got away with it for as long as he did. Hegel called the state "the march of God through history." That's youse guyz. Make America Russia Instead. Chop off the top ten floors of the UN. Crash the EU, Nato and so on.

Fascist ideology makes the caucasian race supreme and all other races / ethnicity inferior. That's youse guyz and your wall Mexico is going to pay for. The check's still in the mail I see however.

Fascist ideology assigns women the role of punching out babies and nothing else. That's youse guyz who hate Feminazis because don't do that only. Brett Kavanaugh is youse guy over there.

Fascist ideology rejects democracy and the rule of law in favor of the one strongman dictator who can do it all himself. That's youse guyz who are the Putin-Trump Rowers.

Fascism doesn't negotiate except to make war sooner or later. That's the Republican party and their Conservatives. Youse guyz who don't negotiate anyway.

Fascism hates Jews so when the time comes of fascist rule them thar Jooos had better accept Christ the Savior. Or else. That's the Putin-Trump Evangelical Rowers section of your boat. Row, row, row your boat.

Etc.


Fascism remains such a nasty and wicked word and thing that even the fascists have to deny being fascists. Nazis are however quite up front about it because they don't care that we know they're nuts. They're just going to go ahead anyway. Or so they believe.

Fascism was/is borne from left wing socialism, not from capitalism or conservativism. Your facts are all wrong. It's the left wing that's fascist, almost exclusively.
 
You've got the wrong lies going there. You're confused.

You need to return to your permanent seat on the far right where you can hear better again. Cause that's where the lies are.

Your post goes OTT anyway. Trump isn't finished yet besides. Neither are we finished over here on this side.

No your wrong. I am the democrat that believes in “Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.” not everyone gets a trophy.
 
It's interesting to note that Mussolini was a socialist before he was a fascist. And that means fascism was first borne out of a left wing ideology.
It's also interesting to note that Hitler was a socialist. So for what it's worth, I see no problem in correlating present day left wing fascists with their German or Italian counterparts.

A good example of left wing fascism would be the Obama administration (for the entire 8 years) or a hate group like Antifa. Trump, is the opposite of fascist. Polar opposite, in fact. A common mistake the left make is placing the Nazi regime on the right wing. Far from it. Hitler would have voted for Obama. And vice versa.

Hitler was a SINO....
 
Hitler was a SINO....

Tell me more.. I don't know what that means.

We will get to the bottom of this once and for all. I will start a new thread so we can debate the elements of what made Hitler... Hitler...
 
Fascism was/is borne from left wing socialism, not from capitalism or conservativism. Your facts are all wrong. It's the left wing that's fascist, almost exclusively.

Did he also just try to mix fascism with racism?

I don't recall racism being even distantly related to fascism.
 
1. President Trump is NOT threatening anyone.

2. He is simply exercising his right as an American to express his views.

3. He is warning people to be VERY careful before believing anything that appears in the mainstream media.

a. I am.
 
1. President Trump is NOT threatening anyone.

2. He is simply exercising his right as an American to express his views.

3. He is warning people to be VERY careful before believing anything that appears in the mainstream media.

a. I am.

The liberal media is no longer interested in the truth. They spin miles and miles of yarn = an it's all lies. Remember, the liberal media is controlled by globalists who seek to have Trump disposed. NEVER take the liberal medias word for ANYTHING. Or if you do, remember to switch the viewpoint 180* and then you have the truth.
 
You're getting hot, which is more than we can say for Aberration who remains stone cold hard and fast on it. :) He did give the post a like however which is noted. So we may be experiencing some progress here.

The bottom line is that Godwin does not negate telling a Nazi he's a Nazi. Godwin's Law says it is 100% right to tell a Nazi he's a Nazi.

After Charlottesville Godwin came forward publicly (on FB) to say the Nazis of Charlottesville are Nazis. Godwin's statement is 100% consistent with Godwin's Law. Godwin didn't need an exemption to his Law to say this, he did not claim or get and exception to his law, nor, in such instances, would Godwin need exempting from his Law. Godwin's Law is clear enough if one reads it and, even better, listens to Godwin himself when he speaks of it as Godwin did immediately after Charlottesville.

And while eventually in a debate somebody invokes Hitler and the Nazis, Trump at Charlottesville beggars the question, as Godwin noted in his Charlottesville statement and Trump's frazzled good guyz on both sides smooching of Nazi ass. At least Trump was in Faulty Tower when he kissed Nazi ass publicly over Charlottesville rather than on the South Lawn of the WH.

As I've noted in scrolling, I seldom or rarely cite Hitler and the Nazis in the current whirlwind that is the Trump presidency. I reference Trumpolini and Mussolini. That is, the emergence of a uniquely American 21st century fascism. I see Trump as being much more like Mussolini and his old time fascists re-formed in the 21st century American context. All the same however, I absolutely do not rule out a Hitler and Nazi equivalent in the contemporary USA that would be foreseeable if Trump and the Nazis of Charlottesville got themselves reelected.

Godwin did not, has not, simply called the Nazi’s of Charlottesville Nazi’s. He went beyond that. Not that it’s relevant one way or another.

Godwin’s Law says nothing about if people really are Nazis or not.

Godwin invoked Hitler. Godwin got Godwin’d.

You all want to pretend people really are Nazis just because you call them Nazi’s, and because they are
Nazi’s therefor Godwin’s Law doesn’t apply. Godwin’s Law provides no such exception.
 
The liberal media is no longer interested in the truth. They spin miles and miles of yarn = an it's all lies. Remember, the liberal media is controlled by globalists who seek to have Trump disposed. NEVER take the liberal medias word for ANYTHING. Or if you do, remember to switch the viewpoint 180* and then you have the truth.




1. You are 100% right.

2. The real loser is the New York Times.


a. Yes, it was saved from bankruptcy by becoming the media leader of the Resistance.
b. But it has completely destroyed the only thing that counts in genuine journalism: RELIABILITY.

i. The new "rule": If it appears in the Times, it is false or incomplete or exaggerated.


Sad.
 
1. You are 100% right.

2. The real loser is the New York Times.


a. Yes, it was saved from bankruptcy by becoming the media leader of the Resistance.
b. But it has completely destroyed the only thing that counts in genuine journalism: RELIABILITY.

i. The new "rule": If it appears in the Times, it is false or incomplete or exaggerated.


Sad.

Its now "Political Activism"

"Honest Journalism" is dead and has been dead since 2008 or even further back
 
Godwin did not, has not, simply called the Nazi’s of Charlottesville Nazi’s. He went beyond that. Not that it’s relevant one way or another.

Godwin’s Law says nothing about if people really are Nazis or not.

Godwin invoked Hitler. Godwin got Godwin’d.

You all want to pretend people really are Nazis just because you call them Nazi’s, and because they are
Nazi’s therefor Godwin’s Law doesn’t apply. Godwin’s Law provides no such exception.

I've said what Godwin's Law is.

And about Godwin's Law Laws.

I've said what Godwin said at Facebook about the Nazis of Charlottelsville, ie, they are Nazis. Godwin said that when you've got a Nazi in front of you, go ahead and tell him he is a Nazi. Fact is fact. Truth is truth.

You're in denial. Your first sentence above is moreover something you pulled out from under a waffle iron. The rest of the post is garble, ie, the usual.

So you've finally gone ahead now and stepped in it. Neither am I going to argue with denial. I'll just continue to note you're in denial that's packaged in garble.
 
The Putin-Trump Rowers are meanwhile breaking their backs rowing against the NYT.

They can break their backs as much as they like of course.

The Times is going to continue to hammer 'em because we still have the Constitution to include the First Amendment. That's true no matter how much they try to put a torch to it and throw it over the side. They can't do it and won't be able to do it. Never in a million years.
 
I've said what Godwin's Law is.

And about Godwin's Law Laws.

I've said what Godwin said at Facebook about the Nazis of Charlottelsville, ie, they are Nazis. Godwin said that when you've got a Nazi in front of you, go ahead and tell him he is a Nazi. Fact is fact. Truth is truth.

You're in denial. Your first sentence above is moreover something you pulled out from under a waffle iron. The rest of the post is garble, ie, the usual.

So you've finally gone ahead now and stepped in it. Neither am I going to argue with denial. I'll just continue to note you're in denial that's packaged in garble.

I’ve said what Godwin’s Law is too. Big deal.

I’ve read what Godwin said on Facebook. And I’ve said he not excluded from Godwin’s law.

You are in denial. Your first sentence above is moreover something you pulled out from under a waffle iron. The rest of the post is garble, ie, the usual.

So you've finally gone ahead now and stepped in it. Neither am I going to argue with denial. I'll just continue to note you're in denial that's packaged in garble.
 
I’ve said what Godwin’s Law is too. Big deal.

I’ve read what Godwin said on Facebook. And I’ve said he not excluded from Godwin’s law.

You are in denial. Your first sentence above is moreover something you pulled out from under a waffle iron. The rest of the post is garble, ie, the usual.

So you've finally gone ahead now and stepped in it. Neither am I going to argue with denial. I'll just continue to note you're in denial that's packaged in garble.

I read all that somewhere already.

Give me a moment here and I'll remember where....

....oh that's right, it's my own post that I wrote.

Flattery will get you everywhere thx much for quoting me about you.

Do we get a two-fer now, at this point? Like the same thingy again in your next post to me. Or are you completely out of gas. Inquiring minds want to know thx. Especially if you might have any gripes about the MSM too. I'd like to think you have a ton of 'em.
 
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