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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Care more than Hong Kong protests? Endangered Species? Another 20 murders around the country yesterday?
    The first two can be attributed to blind hunger for wealth and power.
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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    Jonny5:

    If, and it is a very important if, the state or former agents of the state engineered or abetted the killing of Mr. Epstein in order to silence him, then that is a big and very newsworthy journalistic item to be followed up upon. It is right up there with the Obama Administration's decision to kill American citizens without trial if they were connected in some significant way to radical Islamist movements in the Global War on Terror. If agents of the state can kill Mr. Epstein with impunity (and again that is a hypothetical if), then they will begin to believe that they can kill any American citizen if it serves their interests, including Jonny5. That is why it is a big story, because wise US citizens don't want to live in the Kingdom of Saudi America, where assassination is a commonly used tool of the state.

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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And this is why people are dumb. They love a good tv drama, and hate actually understanding what govt does.
    And they're that way because the people who Epstein had the goods on want them that way.

    Anything that drags them and their excesses into the light is a good thing.
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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    "begin to believe".

    What if ...?:

    Belief is the cornerstone of faith. Evidence and analysis are the foundations of reason. I live as much as possible in the sphere of reason, although admittedly reading about quantum mechanics, holographic universes and the mathematics of infinities can make holding to that reason challenging enough. When there is evidence I will listen and analyse what is presented. But in the absence of evidence I refuse to "believe".

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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    For all we know he could be in witness protection now, and we might just see who some of that clientele is.

    One could hope at the very least.
    The BOP "disappears" inmates all the time. At least temporarily.

    It's called "diesel therapy" and if you really piss them off, like get some evidence out of malfeasence (as in one case I know of personally) they transfer you.

    Until they think you've learned your lesson. Each day you are awakened at 4am in whatever federal holding facility you arrived at the previous night, are loaded on a bus in handcuffs, legirons and a belly chain, and drive for who knows how many hours to the next holding facility. (sometimes there's a plane, too)

    No phone, no letters. Nobody who knows you on the outside will be told anything about where you are or when they will hear from you. Sometimes this goes on for more than a year.

    That's my point.

    If prosecutors wanted what an inmate in Epstein's situation knows, there is no way in hell he wouldn't be in protective custody/suicide watch. Twenty four hour supervision. Not for his safety.

    For a knotch in some prosecutor's belt/political career. Some power play at the level of Epstein's "clientele ". That's an inmate with "value". He would be kept intact.

    It's an ugly system granted Carter Blanche on it's worst proclivities by the war on drugs.

    If he had been convicted and gave nobody up, on the other hand, they'd have let him hang himself. (Or maybe if it were a private prison they would have just kept him on suicide watch indefinitely. They get to charge much more per day that way.)
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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Too late, I've already asked.
    Dont tell.

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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Thank you for revealing exactly what KIND of "libertarian" you really are.

    Not surprised in the least.
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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Hey, when its possible those with their hands on the steering wheel of this country may have their debauchery writ large across the sky its a time for optimism.

    And now the only one who could give us that is dead.

    So we're mad.
    Boo hoo. Guess we'll have to talk about all the murder instead.

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    Re: Media and DP Obsession with Dead Rich White Guy Criminal

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And they're that way because the people who Epstein had the goods on want them that way.

    Anything that drags them and their excesses into the light is a good thing.
    Yeah sure, people are dumb because of anyone but themselves.

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