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Convenience store clerk says customers 'need to go back to their country' in video confrontation

Im more than a little tired of this gsme being played by the left by conflating everything they can as being racist.

If someone looks st someones dinner snd says that steskblooks disgusting. Its a statemrnt a vegan might make but it does mean that person is a vegan.

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What was the reason for him to tell the women to go back to their country?

Your last paragraph is stupid. Nobody would assume that the person is vegan or anything else. A food critic perhaps. Nice try.
 
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Indira Buitron's two cousins were visiting the U.S. from Mexico and they spoke only Spanish outside the gas station, which was why the store clerk assumed that her cousins were illegals. Carolina Buitron said she's a citizen in the video but he suspected that her cousins could have overstayed their visas.
 
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When did discrimination based on immigration status become against the law? You may not like it and he may be fired for doing it but its not illegal.

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It might violate some local statute for a licensed business to deny service to any member of the public. Where it might be discriminatory is if he is basing his harassment of the customer on color of their skin, accent, etc. But it seems he served the person in question. Let’s try another example. Customer is black, clerk says “I don’t generally serve niggers here but I’ll make an exception in your case.” Customer might have a legal beef if he walked out. When I investigated such things, we used to try to troubleshoot some problems to avoid the state, the company, the complainant the time and expense of an investigation in a case where neither might win or get satisfaction. Talk to both parties, see if you can get an apology out of the clerk and subsequent withdrawal of the complaint out of the customer, due to the particular circumstances of the case.

Then everyone writes Trump and tells him to cut out this ****.
 
What was the reason for him to tell the women to go back to their country?

Your last paragraph is stupid. Nobody would assume that the person is vegan or anything else. A food critic perhaps. Nice try.
Thats my point its stupid to assume the clerk is a racist just becsuse he said something a racist might also say. If the clerk that said that was black or brown we would not even be havingbthis discussion necause none of you would jump to the assumption that it was motivated by racism.

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Thats my point its stupid to assume the clerk is a racist just becsuse he said something a racist might also say. If the clerk that said that was black or brown we would not even be havingbthis discussion necause none of you would jump to the assumption that it was motivated by racism.

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I notice that you didn't answer my question.
 
It might violate some local statute for a licensed business to deny service to any member of the public. Where it might be discriminatory is if he is basing his harassment of the customer on color of their skin, accent, etc. But it seems he served the person in question. Let’s try another example. Customer is black, clerk says “I don’t generally serve niggers here but I’ll make an exception in your case.” Customer might have a legal beef if he walked out. When I investigated such things, we used to try to troubleshoot some problems to avoid the state, the company, the complainant the time and expense of an investigation in a case where neither might win or get satisfaction. Talk to both parties, see if you can get an apology out of the clerk and subsequent withdrawal of the complaint out of the customer, due to the particular circumstances of the case.

Then everyone writes Trump and tells him to cut out this ****.
What would the legal beef be in your example. Its not illegal to use the word nigger and if he served him he technicslly did not break the law.

Im not defending the guy in your example but you're attempting yo srgue that it would be illegal and i dont think it would be.

For example say i owned a resteraunt and put up a sign that says we dont like niggers but we do serve them here. While it would be a stupid thing to do im not seeing anything illegal about it.

What your essentially doing is advocating criminalizing unpopular opinions. Imo that is more dangerous than the opinions themselves.

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I notice that you didn't answer my question.
Sorry about that....
Your asking for an answer i dont have. Your assuming its racism and maybe it is. I cant say it isnt any more than i can say it is.

I may call someone a dumb bastard because they are in my way but does it mean i actually think they have a low iq and dont have their father's surname, or am i just saying something nasty because i want to insult someone who im angry at.

Imo its unfair to make an accusation as serious as racism if you can not prove it.

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Sorry about that....
Your asking for an answer i dont have. Your assuming its racism and maybe it is. I cant say it isnt any more than i can say it is.

I may call someone a dumb bastard because they are in my way but does it mean i actually think they have a low iq and dont have their father's surname, or am i just saying something nasty because i want to insult someone who im angry at.

Imo its unfair to make an accusation as serious as racism if you can not prove it.

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Would he ask people of any other race to go back to where they came from?
 
What would the legal beef be in your example. Its not illegal to use the word nigger and if he served him he technicslly did not break the law.

Im not defending the guy in your example but you're attempting yo srgue that it would be illegal and i dont think it would be.

For example say i owned a resteraunt and put up a sign that says we dont like niggers but we do serve them here. While it would be a stupid thing to do im not seeing anything illegal about it.

What your essentially doing is advocating criminalizing unpopular opinions. Imo that is more dangerous than the opinions themselves.

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Long story. Years ago, I investigated a case where a black man, only one employed at a construction company, was laid off despite being there longer than white employees. There was no seniority in the union contract and a worthless union anyway. I am ready to recommend dismissal of the case, when a Hispanic employee -all the others were— asks, “Does it matter that his supervisor referred to him as ‘a nigger’ all the time.” It might, I deadpanned, and looked closer at the case. This was way before computers so I had to look at ledgers and hiring slips for two days. I made a chart that showed that seniority was followed closely, even tho not required. Guy won his case, but not before a classic blunder at the public hearing.

-Did you hear the boss call Mr. Harris a nigger coincidental to his firing?”
-No
-Our attorney says he is not sure Mr. Garcia understands the word coincidental in this context.
-Asked and answered, says the company attorney. Judge agrees.
-The fatal mistake follows, as the company attorney stupidly asks a second time, So you didn’t hear the boss refer to Mr. Harris as a nigger coincidental to the lay off?
-No he came back in and said I finally got rid of that nigger.
Explosions of laughter. Mr. Harris, a fabulous worker by all accounts, won the case.

My point is that if, day the boss had openly called Harris names it might have been ok as to the firing if it followed seniority, tho creating a hostile work environment that caused him to walk out would have likely made the company liable. I don’t know if this translates from employment law to public accommodations law, however, but think lawyers on both sides would love to have a crack at such a case, where the store owner treats his customers to racial epithets, but still sells them chips.
 
Would he ask people of any other race to go back to where they came from?
How would you or i know the answer to that question? Even if the answer is no it does not prove your allegation.

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How would you or i know the answer to that question? Even if the answer is no it does not prove your allegation.

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The point is easy to understand. He asked those women to go back to their country because they're Hispanic.
 
Indira Buitron's two cousins were visiting the U.S. from Mexico and they spoke only Spanish outside the gas station, which was why the store clerk assumed that her cousins were illegals. Carolina Buitron said she's a citizen in the video but he suspected that her cousins could have overstayed their visas.

And it's his business why? If it was Hans and his cousins were visiting from Munich might he have said the same?
 
The news is that more and more these pieces of **** feel comfortable being overtly racist in public because they see the President getting away with it and that makes them think their disgusting ideas are more popular than they actually are.

Well you guys cant have a monopoly on that either, now can you?
 
To you guys everyone is racist but you. Doesn't hold a lot credence any longer.

FWIW, that guy sounded like a middle easterner.

Just sounded like an angry and ignorant person to me. Here he is.


 
You think he's ignorant for being concerned about people coming to this country illegally?

Astonishingly, your posts drips with dishonesty and idiocy.

Did you watch any part of the video, or do you think it is not "ignorant" to assume someone you don't know is an illegal based on their appearance and tell them to go back to their country? You think that's reasonable, don't you?
 
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Astonishingly, your posts drips with dishonesty and idiocy.

Did you watch any part of the video, or do you think it is not "ignorant" to assume someone you don't know is an illegal based on their appearance and tell them to go back to their country? You think that's reasonable, don't you?

That suppose to be an answer to my question?
 
That suppose to be an answer to my question?

Ah, so you do think it is reasonable for white people to assume that non-white people are illegals and to tell them to go back to their country. Figured.

Thanks for sorting that out via laughably idiotic attempt at deflection.
 
Ah, so you do think it is reasonable for white people to assume that non-white people are illegals and to tell them to go back to their country. Figured.

Thanks for sorting that out via laughably idiotic attempt at deflection.

I asked if she thought he was ignorant for being concerned about illegals and I get your pompous self spouting off.

Get lost.
 
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