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Rickeroo's official CNN challenge thread

Quite the assortment today:

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One is a white man's answer of whether or not a certain race of Americans would be offended if another white man said a particular term. This can't be the "correct" answer, otherwise CNN wouldn't have printed it.

Another is about a CNN operative letting a white man know the exact meaning of a term, as it relates to Americans of a certain race. Obviously, this will have a scolding tone.

2 articles are about over-use of discipline upon Americans of a certain race.

Another one, in the "in case you missed it" section, conflates "white supremacy" and "American" together. The message: "American" is white supremacy.


Part of the reason why I'm keeping track of the white racial narrative that the media is defining for me is one of self-preservation. As American society becomes more racialized (you can use the euphemisms "diverse" and "inclusive" to describe racialization), I need to know the parameters of protocol so as to know my place in American society based on my race. While I do this for selfish reasons, other races besides mine can benefit from my research and be able to better adhere to their specific race protocols in "American" society, as defined by the media.

To that end, with 3 months of data, I will be working on a summary of the type of racial message the media is trying to get across with how they represent each race's role in "America". I'll look through the articles in this thread and try to come up with categories, then based on that come up with an overall tone or message, then come up with recommendations that "Americans" can employ to follow proper race protocol - based on their race of course.

Admittedly, I'm more able to internalize the message that the media is giving to white "Americans", and I have far more incentive to follow the message the media has for the "white race". I could offer suggestions as to the role that other "American" races should play based on the media narrative, but this may be looked at as insincere, since I wouldn't be racially qualified to suggest or define protocol for races other than mine. To each race their own in "America", so to speak.

Keep in mind that every time race is mentioned - by me, CNN, or anyone else - we are all supposedly talking about "Americans" that have a common set of values.
 
This one almost slipped by:

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The most important number in the CNN 2020 poll isn't the one you think it is - CNNPolitics

Who knew that the "most important number" was a breakdown of how the different races are voting for democrats? I assume these different races are all Americans with pretty much the same values:

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Then again, I'm not so sure. What are the genetic and racial mechanics by which "of color" Americans prefer Biden over Warren, versus those "Americans" that happen to be born without color?
 
Here's the first of some pie charts that attempt to codify CNN's pogrom of racializing Americans into practical information that we can use - according to our races of course.

Out of 108 articles, there were 4 main categories:

1. America is mean to "of color" people.

This includes the killing of "of color" people, usually by white police, calling them by improper terms, kicking them out of establishments, calling the police on them, wearing blackface, blackface in shoe design, causing Latinas to have premature births, etc.


2. Genetic accomplishments

"Accomplishments" include things such as becoming mayor, riding a horse as a jockey, traveling, being a vegan, owning a home, forgiving, acting, visiting every country, spacewalking, and being a cast member in sketch comedy. When one's genetics (race or sex) make their accomplishment cause for celebration, it's put into this category.


3. Racializing Voting

Candidate support by one race in comparison to others, how Latinos could swing the vote, boosting turnout for minorities, Trump is the last hope for white people, etc.


4. Minorities are criminals or dysfunctional

Any reporting of a minority committing a crime, and any social statistic that casts minorities in a bad light. This includes reports about Hispanics being fatter than whites, or black teens committing suicide at a higher rate than other races.


Results chart:

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I expected a lot of "whites are mean", and I got that. However, I was surprised to see how many genetically-based accomplishments there were. I'll be taking a closer look at individual categories in future posts.
 
For a closer look at "whites are mean", I wanted to determine whether it was all whites that were being mean, or were other races being mean as well? Here's a chart:

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Whites are over-represented, which is no surprise. For the small portion that Hispanics and Indians are reported to mistreat 'other races', keep in mind that CNN doesn't usually make it obvious when a non-white is mean to another minority race. In those cases, photos will be avoided, race isn't mentioned, etc. This allows a better chance for the reader to assume it was a white person being mean. A recent example was that black girl who got peed on at a high school football game. CNN wouldn't tell you that the pissers were Indians, I had to get that from another source.

What about victimology? The races which are represented as getting "wronged":

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No surprise here, blacks vastly over-represented at the expense of Hispanics. The Asians you see there are solely from the "SNL" thing, and is likely a fluke.
 
The "Genetic achievement" category is rather broad, it could also be considered "Genetic activities". At it's core, it usually means that someone of a particular genetic makeup is the first to do something that was already done by others of another genetic makeup: First black mayor of a town, first spacewalk by all-females, the first jockey to wear a hijab. Also included are common actions that take on new meaning if certain races or sexes do them. For example, if a black family happens to go on vacation, they are engaging in "black travel". If veganism is practiced by someone who happens to be black, it's called "black veganism". Institutions can also be racialized, such as black Hollywood or a Latino History Museum.

It is in that light that I analyzed which genetics were being singled out:

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Once again, blacks are vastly over-represented at the expense of Hispanics in terms of having their own race-based achievements or having their own race-based institutions - as represented and championed by CNN.
 
When (whites) are being mean to (blacks), how are they being mean?

Categories here include:

Non-PC terminology / mocking:

This includes the "n word", blackface (on your face or in a shoe design), hanging a noose or banana up, using the term "lynching" improperly, failure to tell one black model from another in a magazine. A white woman in a parking lot going on a 'racist tirade'.

Kill/beat/arrest:

White cops shooting blacks, 10 year old black girl arrested, border agents arresting a Muslim (Arab)


Evicted / kicked out / called the cops:

White woman evicted for having black guests, any time a white calls the cops on a black, blacks kicked out of a restaurant.

Results:

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As I suspected, there is a lot of attention given to proper racial protocol as far as terminology and being polite / non-insulting.
 
A slight faux pas in racial protocol, CNN is doing the courtesy of letting us know:

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University of Missouri athletics deletes diversity tweet and apologizes after backlash - CNN

The post was criticized on social media for defining Mack and Jones-Hicks by their race instead of their goals and accomplishments.

The only reason diversity and inclusion programs exist is to increase the number of "of color" people. Therefore, it was required that nonwhites be a part of this tweet, if the tweet was to champion "diversity".

Diversity: The ONLY reason those two blacks are on there is because they are black.
 
It's been a while, so I figure I'd check in with what CNN considers the most important things for me to know:

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Jews have the day it seems, with the US being at fault of course. We have a Jew expressing that Trump's reclassification of Jews really doesn't matter.

White supremacy thrown in for good measure.

Of note, in blue, is an extremely rare positive headline for Trump from CNN.

Weekends at CNN are like Rush's open line Friday - they are free to go off script a bit - there's nothing about blacks on their front page. Rest assured that blacks will be back where they belong in short order - front and center as the most important news ever.

Let me correct that. Blacks aren't on the front page of CNN because of anything they did or did not do - they are there simply because of their relationship with whites, as defined by CNN.

Basing a race's fate on another race sounds really cool to me. I think I'll start a campaign - the fate of Americans with Irish ancestry is entirely dependent on what Americans of Japanese ancestry think of them. Imagine the possibilities.
 
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1. I am 82 years old.

2. When I was a teenager in the 1950s here in Los Angeles, no one talked about this topic. It was simply the elephant in the American room.

3. I attended a private high school where everyone was Caucasian, with a few foreign Latinx and a few Asians (including at least three born here in the States).

a. No one ever talked about African Americans. (In fact, the tailor -- we wore uniforms -- was an African American.)

4. Although I am not very intelligent, I have always known that ethnicity was the Achilles' heel of this nation. But in the 1950s, most people pretended that the issue did not exist. And NO one could have ever imagined today's fast changing demographics.

5. Being a computer illiterate, I envy the OP's skills in putting together this journalistic thread.

a. Nothing that I have read in this thread shocked or surprised me.

6. Before the Internet let people post to Twitter, Facebook, Debate Politics, etc., some people used to compile journals called commonplace books. They would consist of writings, magazine clippings, photographs, etc. Anything of interest to the compiler.
 
1. I am 82 years old.

2. When I was a teenager in the 1950s here in Los Angeles, no one talked about this topic. It was simply the elephant in the American room.

3. I attended a private high school where everyone was Caucasian, with a few foreign Latinx and a few Asians (including at least three born here in the States).

a. No one ever talked about African Americans. (In fact, the tailor -- we wore uniforms -- was an African American.)

4. Although I am not very intelligent, I have always known that ethnicity was the Achilles' heel of this nation. But in the 1950s, most people pretended that the issue did not exist. And NO one could have ever imagined today's fast changing demographics.

5. Being a computer illiterate, I envy the OP's skills in putting together this journalistic thread.

a. Nothing that I have read in this thread shocked or surprised me.

6. Before the Internet let people post to Twitter, Facebook, Debate Politics, etc., some people used to compile journals called commonplace books. They would consist of writings, magazine clippings, photographs, etc. Anything of interest to the compiler.

Many thanks. My goal with this thread was to demonstrate the ill effects of how race is framed in the media. The overall effect is to further the segregation between black and white. I consider racial segregation (voluntary or not) a destructive force - therefore I consider CNN a destructive force. It reinforces the differences and distinctions between the races, which in my mind can only harm and not help.

I've also learned, albeit slowly, that my concept of anti-segregation, and how I get that concept across, isn't well recieved. At the very least it isn't understood, much like my signature.
 
I want to thank CNN for pointing this out:

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'White Only' signs for sale at antiques store spark confrontation - CNN



These offensive objects are about 2000 miles away from me. Until the media told me, I didn't know that they are actually part of the reason why I don't live in a minority area. Those mammy dolls on the shelves were making me racist from afar.

They say knowing is half the battle - thanks CNN. But even if those mammy dolls are removed, I feel there is still something preventing me from wanting to move to Baltimore. Could there be another store with mammy dolls, perhaps in Utah?

Will CNN find other stores that sell mammy dolls? The sooner they find them, the sooner I won't be racist anymore.

Sarcasm aside:

"In the past few days, Dean has faced a torrent of criticism and threats online, she told KDVR."

It's odd that I face no criticism for living in an all-white town. Thanks for taking the fall for me Dean. And thanks to CNN and the stupid people making the threats for thinking that "mammy dolls" have anything to do with racism.

I'm in the clear - no mammy dolls in my house, right?

The media's take on what constitutes racism could best be described as infantile - a toddler babbling about astrophysics.
 
It's not so bad. I do a cntrl-F, look for racially identifying terminology, take a quick screenshot and post.

Yeah, it’s not like anyone expects Trumpster to actually read anything!
 
Yeah, it’s not like anyone expects Trumpster to actually read anything!

I did read the last one about the mammy dolls in Colorado. Changing it up a bit and being a bit flexible.
 
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First I'd like the thank CNN for showing us yet another "black perp". Not that I needed any more reminders to self-segregate.

A Georgia death row inmate who argued a racist juror voted for his sentence has died, attorneys say - CNN


So we have a single juror that said "mean things" about black people, and it's been claimed that as a result, that single juror opted for the death penalty. Here's an article of how the jury went:

Juror sentenced man to death because he was black, appeal says

"The jury unanimously sentenced Tharpe to death."

I find this odd, since none of the other jury members used 'racial slurs', yet sentenced him to death anyway. Meanwhile, Barney Gattie, the juror who sentenced Thorpe to death as all the other jurors did, gets nailed to the wall in the press.

Looks like the other jurors get off scot-free for sentencing a black man to death. You know why? Because they used proper terminology! Not Barney though - he used bad words!

No bad words = no racism. Thanks media, looks like I'm in the clear.
 
Popping in less often. There's lots of material, but as much as I rail against CNN, it's like bailing the Titanic with a teaspoon.

At any rate, these two headlines are "same day" and offer mixed signals. Here's something that should be on Fox, a standard "black perps" story complete with black mugshots:

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However, CNN gets back to form further down the page, with "the n word" being really, really important:

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At first glance, I thought they had found another brown race to feel sorry for. I opened the article, hoping I would find 'news I could use', that being the proper terms by which to call these new brown people by:

Tyson Fury, boxing's new heavyweight champ, is an Irish Traveller. Here's what that means - CNN

You can imagine my horror as I read the term "Irish" being used to partially describe this stricken, pitiable "ethnic minority". I'm of Irish heritage myself.

Here's a description of their low-income, pitiable state:

"Irish Travellers know what it's like to scrap for living as well -- literally. Many earned a living by collecting and recycling scrap metal and doing all sorts of odd jobs to keep their families alive."

They show a picture of an upstanding "Irish" woman:

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I'd like to think that although I may be Irish, people don't look at me as having to make a living by collecting and recycling scrap metal and doing all sorts of odd jobs to keep my family alive, as CNN says.

Hopefully CNN goes back to portraying brown people as pitiable and NOT the Irish.
 
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