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Coverage of Valerie Plame's Run for Congress Ignores her Antisemitism

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Note: The author of this Federalist article uses a fictitious pen name, & in spite of treating Plame's outing while @ CIA with a flippant nature, doesn't wish his own identity to be known to his audience.

Valerie Plame, an ex-CIA officer famously outed by a State Department official in the George W. Bush administration, is running for the open seat in New Mexico’s Third Congressional District. Unsurprisingly, the establishment media coverage of her candidacy largely ignored aspects of the Plame affair that are unhelpful to the left. Big Media also largely ignored the anti-Semitic materials she promoted on Twitter, a scandal that forced her resignation from the already controversial Ploughshares Fund.
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Should a naughty Tweet that offended neocons really count as significant justification to disqualify a person from running for public office? Should every media story announcing Plame's congressional run be dutifully required to note that she committed the sin of retweeting something that offended somebody, somewhere, at some time?


The article Plame RT'd was written by Philip Giraldi, who spent 18 years as a counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer @ CIA. Giraldi can't be easily pigeonholed as lacking direct knowledge and experience in his subject matter.

I'm not a registered Democrat, am also not sure I'd vote for Plame if I lived in the district she's running in, but I do support her right to run, and to not be publicly shamed every time she appears in public over a frigging retweet.


Coverage Of Valerie Plame’s Run For Congress Ignores Her Anti-Semitism

Valerie Plame - Wikipedia

Philip Giraldi - Wikipedia
 
truthatallcost said:
Note: The author of this Federalist article uses a fictitious pen name, & in spite of treating Plame's outing while @ CIA with a flippant nature, doesn't wish his own identity to be known to his audience.



Should a naughty Tweet that offended neocons really count as significant justification to disqualify a person from running for public office? Should every media story announcing Plame's congressional run be dutifully required to note that she committed the sin of retweeting something that offended somebody, somewhere, at some time?


The article Plame RT'd was written by Philip Giraldi, who spent 18 years as a counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer @ CIA. Giraldi can't be easily pigeonholed as lacking direct knowledge and experience in his subject matter.

I'm not a registered Democrat, am also not sure I'd vote for Plame if I lived in the district she's running in, but I do support her right to run, and to not be publicly shamed every time she appears in public over a frigging retweet.


Coverage Of Valerie Plame’s Run For Congress Ignores Her Anti-Semitism

Valerie Plame - Wikipedia

Philip Giraldi - Wikipedia
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The ends justify any means nowadays...thanks to the Dems and Trump haters. This will now also apply to anyone else that someone is opposed to.

Everyone should just get comfortable and enjoy the bed they made for themselves.
 
truthatallcost said:
Note: The author of this Federalist article uses a fictitious pen name, & in spite of treating Plame's outing while @ CIA with a flippant nature, doesn't wish his own identity to be known to his audience.



Should a naughty Tweet that offended neocons really count as significant justification to disqualify a person from running for public office? Should every media story announcing Plame's congressional run be dutifully required to note that she committed the sin of retweeting something that offended somebody, somewhere, at some time?


The article Plame RT'd was written by Philip Giraldi, who spent 18 years as a counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer @ CIA. Giraldi can't be easily pigeonholed as lacking direct knowledge and experience in his subject matter.

I'm not a registered Democrat, am also not sure I'd vote for Plame if I lived in the district she's running in, but I do support her right to run, and to not be publicly shamed every time she appears in public over a frigging retweet.


Coverage Of Valerie Plame’s Run For Congress Ignores Her Anti-Semitism

Valerie Plame - Wikipedia

Philip Giraldi - Wikipedia
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First off lets note that you are posting anonymously so its funny that you levy that criticism at someone else

Second just because some one has experience in a field doesnt mean they also cant be a ****ing moron at the same time, Philip Giraldi thinks Israel committed 9/11. Anyone retweeting the anti-semitic garbage he spews should be called out and you need to be called out for defending it.
 
Crovax said:
First off lets note that you are posting anonymously so its funny that you levy that criticism at someone else
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I'm not acting as a journalist either when I post on Debate Politics. You aren't unaware that journalists commonly attach their names to their work, or that the moderators of this site recommend not sharing personal information on this site.

Second just because some one has experience in a field doesnt mean they also cant be a ****ing moron at the same time, Philip Giraldi thinks Israel committed 9/11.
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Plame never said anything about Israel committing 9/11. She did communicate the 'dancing Israelis' story, which is 100% accurate. The 6 Israelis who were arrested on 9/11 even appeared on an Israeli television talk show. Are people still denying this in 2019? That's news to me.

Anyone retweeting the anti-semitic garbage he spews should be called out and you need to be called out for defending it.
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You know, I just finished reading an article by a Jewish professor at Harvard, who wrote a piece about the unnecessary need to deny, deny, deny the truth about the formation of Soviet Russia. She believes it does more harm than good to still use dishonesty in order to cover up true events which are now over 100 years in the past. The neocon movement was ironically formed by men who'd spent the first half of their lives as communists, such as Irving Kristol for example. Even though the ideologies changed, the subterfuge unfortunately hasn't.
 
truthatallcost said:
I'm not acting as a journalist either when I post on Debate Politics. You aren't unaware that journalists commonly attach their names to their work, or that the moderators of this site recommend not sharing personal information on this site.



Plame never said anything about Israel committing 9/11. She did communicate the 'dancing Israelis' story, which is 100% accurate. The 6 Israelis who were arrested on 9/11 even appeared on an Israeli television talk show. Are people still denying this in 2019? That's news to me.



You know, I just finished reading an article by a Jewish professor at Harvard, who wrote a piece about the unnecessary need to deny, deny, deny the truth about the formation of Soviet Russia. She believes it does more harm than good to still use dishonesty in order to cover up true events which are now over 100 years in the past. The neocon movement was ironically formed by men who'd spent the first half of their lives as communists, such as Irving Kristol for example. Even though the ideologies changed, the subterfuge unfortunately hasn't.
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You want to assume because people were forced to be under communism they are automatically liars? That's a pretty slimy argument.
 
OpportunityCost said:
You want to assume because people were forced to be under communism they are automatically liars? That's a pretty slimy argument.
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Who forced Kristol to register as a communist? I'm not sure how you arrived at your conclusion here.
 
truthatallcost said:
Who forced Kristol to register as a communist? I'm not sure how you arrived at your conclusion here.
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Kristol wasn't, but you are insinuating anyone that was a communist can't be trusted. They don't always have a choice.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Kristol wasn't, but you are insinuating anyone that was a communist can't be trusted. They don't always have a choice.
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Oh, right. Kristol was a 'Trotskyist', not a Stalinist, which is a designation which means much to people who are still under the delusion of the 'communism could have worked' myth. Kristol does appear to have been a CIA operative, who converted to his brand of conservatism coincidentally, when the agency decided his services were no longer worth the price tag.

Personally, no I don't tend to trust people who were or are active in communist circles, and I believe that some people within the neoconservative movement would just as soon abandon the ideology in favor of whatever is most expedient for their particular little interest group, be it communism, socialism, or the ethno-fascism practiced by former Eastern European communists who fought fascism in Europe, only to fully embrace it in Israel.
 
truthatallcost said:
Oh, right. Kristol was a 'Trotskyist', not a Stalinist, which is a designation which means much to people who are still under the delusion of the 'communism could have worked' myth. Kristol does appear to have been a CIA operative, who converted to his brand of conservatism coincidentally, when the agency decided his services were no longer worth the price tag.

Personally, no I don't tend to trust people who were or are active in communist circles, and I believe that some people within the neoconservative movement would just as soon abandon the ideology in favor of whatever is most expedient for their particular little interest group, be it communism, socialism, or the ethno-fascism practiced by former Eastern European communists who fought fascism in Europe, only to fully embrace it in Israel.
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You really need to quit seeing everything through a Jewish animus. The fixation just destroys any credibility you may have.
 
:roll:
 
OpportunityCost said:
You really need to quit seeing everything through a Jewish animus. The fixation just destroys any credibility you may have.
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To my thinking, the refusal to rationally analyze the hijacking of the conservative movement destroys the credibility of many conservatives. Not only that, but most conservatives feel the need to chastise one of their own for even dipping a toe into the subject.

Consider the words of the two men who had the biggest impact on the GOP's direction regarding foreign policy in the mid east.

There was, to be sure, one thing that many of even the
most passionately committed American Zionists were reluctant to do, and that was to face up to the fact that continued American support for Israel depended upon continued American involvement in international affairs– from which it followed that an American withdrawal into the kind of isolationist mood that prevailed most recently between the two world wars, and that now looked as
though it might soon prevail again, represented a direct threat to the security of Israel.
- Norman Podhoretz, 1979

Journalists Refuse to Weigh Neocons’ Own Statements of Israel-Centered Foreign Policy – Mondoweiss

American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.

-Irving Kristol, 1973

Which still leaves the dilemma of convincing the other 99% of Americans to blindly support wars against conjured up foes, who don't threaten the shores of our country. Luckily Kristol's son explained exactly how to achieve American's support-

The United States must "act as if threats to the interests of our allies are threats to us, which indeed they are… act as if the flouting of civilized rules of conduct are threats that affect us with almost the same immediacy as if they were occurring on our doorstep."

- Bill Kristol, 2003, advocating for the invasion of Iraq.

30 Years Ago, Neocons Were More Candid About Their Israel-Centered Views – Mondoweiss

Note that Kristol also supports mass migration, in the hopes that it will replace Trump's base eventually.

Place animus where it's earned Opportunity Cost.
 
truthatallcost said:
To my thinking, the refusal to rationally analyze the hijacking of the conservative movement destroys the credibility of many conservatives. Not only that, but most conservatives feel the need to chastise one of their own for even dipping a toe into the subject.

Consider the words of the two men who had the biggest impact on the GOP's direction regarding foreign policy in the mid east.

There was, to be sure, one thing that many of even the
most passionately committed American Zionists were reluctant to do, and that was to face up to the fact that continued American support for Israel depended upon continued American involvement in international affairs– from which it followed that an American withdrawal into the kind of isolationist mood that prevailed most recently between the two world wars, and that now looked as
though it might soon prevail again, represented a direct threat to the security of Israel.
- Norman Podhoretz, 1979

Journalists Refuse to Weigh Neocons’ Own Statements of Israel-Centered Foreign Policy – Mondoweiss

American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.

-Irving Kristol, 1973

Which still leaves the dilemma of convincing the other 99% of Americans to blindly support wars against conjured up foes, who don't threaten the shores of our country. Luckily Kristol's son explained exactly how to achieve American's support-

The United States must "act as if threats to the interests of our allies are threats to us, which indeed they are… act as if the flouting of civilized rules of conduct are threats that affect us with almost the same immediacy as if they were occurring on our doorstep."

- Bill Kristol, 2003, advocating for the invasion of Iraq.

30 Years Ago, Neocons Were More Candid About Their Israel-Centered Views – Mondoweiss

Note that Kristol also supports mass migration, in the hopes that it will replace Trump's base eventually.

Place animus where it's earned Opportunity Cost.
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:roll: The Zionist boogieman...pass.
 
truthatallcost said:
It's one of the only taboos left in America. I understand most people aren't ready for the backlash we've all been conditioned to recite.
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I haven't been conditioned to recite a damn thing. Zionist is a buzzword, used to cover racism.
 
OpportunityCost said:
I haven't been conditioned to recite a damn thing. Zionist is a buzzword, used to cover racism.
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You sound like

- you don't know what buzzword means
- you didn't even bother reading my previous posts, where I quoted ZIONISTS who talked OPENLY about the need to rope in DUMMIES to their cause
- your mind's made up already
 
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truthatallcost said:
Note: The author of this Federalist article uses a fictitious pen name, & in spite of treating Plame's outing while @ CIA with a flippant nature, doesn't wish his own identity to be known to his audience.



Should a naughty Tweet that offended neocons really count as significant justification to disqualify a person from running for public office? Should every media story announcing Plame's congressional run be dutifully required to note that she committed the sin of retweeting something that offended somebody, somewhere, at some time?


The article Plame RT'd was written by Philip Giraldi, who spent 18 years as a counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer @ CIA. Giraldi can't be easily pigeonholed as lacking direct knowledge and experience in his subject matter.

I'm not a registered Democrat, am also not sure I'd vote for Plame if I lived in the district she's running in, but I do support her right to run, and to not be publicly shamed every time she appears in public over a frigging retweet.


Coverage Of Valerie Plame’s Run For Congress Ignores Her Anti-Semitism

Valerie Plame - Wikipedia

Philip Giraldi - Wikipedia
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I'd be more concerned about her history as a CIA shill. Criticizing Israel, or whatever wrongthink she's accused of, isn't a concern.
 
OpportunityCost said:
I haven't been conditioned to recite a damn thing. Zionist is a buzzword, used to cover racism.
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"Racism" is a word used by people who don't have rational arguments, and want to make those who do shut up.
 
AmNat said:
"Racism" is a word used by people who don't have rational arguments, and want to make those who do shut up.
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Said every racist ever.
 
AmNat said:
I'd be more concerned about her history as a CIA shill. Criticizing Israel, or whatever wrongthink she's accused of, isn't a concern.
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The fact that she was willing to break from the pack shows that she's probably not on the CIA's good side. Michael Scheuer did something similar, after 22 years at the agency. He was forced to retire, after the piranhas in the media outed him for the crime of not being supportive enough of Israel.
 
Crovax said:
First off lets note that you are posting anonymously so its funny that you levy that criticism at someone else

Second just because some one has experience in a field doesnt mean they also cant be a ****ing moron at the same time, Philip Giraldi thinks Israel committed 9/11. Anyone retweeting the anti-semitic garbage he spews should be called out and you need to be called out for defending it.
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Giraldi is correct in his assessment of who gained the most from 911, and whose fingerprints are all over it. The Dancing Israelis were icing on the cake.

I suspect Plame is equally aware of the facts. That may be why the early fire against Plame is colored as AS. Who would dare to point out the criminality of the government in Tel Aviv?
 
Oh no she criticized the precious jews.
 
Is this yet another attempt to call anyone who is anti-Likud or thinks Bibi is a monster an anti-semite?
 
Vadinho said:
Is this yet another attempt to call anyone who is anti-Likud or thinks Bibi is a monster an anti-semite?
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Plame's reputation, prior to making a faux pas about the holy land, was quite strong; she was on the right side of history in regards to the plot by the Bush administration to lie in order to go to war, and was herself a victim of Cheney's underling. I guess all that doesn't matter anymore.
 
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