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Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

jmotivator said:
Interesting. At least it seems that the news reports from the last 3 years pounding the Kilimnick tie were just oblivious to Kiliminick's true allegiances. Mueller's team, on the other hand, have been insanely reckless and dishonest. I'd bet after this expose that the Democrats demanding that Mueller testify before congress will dry up pretty quickly. No way in hell they want Mueller cross examined on this.
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It is easy to cherry pick "intelligence analysis" to prove virtually anything - especially since the bulk of the underlying data is classified 'in order to protect sources and methods'.
 
tres borrachos said:
Thanks for agreeing with me. It's an opinion piece - not breaking news. I'm not saying Solomon is right or wrong. I wouldn't know any more than anyone else. But he is an opinion writer for The Hill. He even adds that caveat to everything he writes for them.

I'll wait until this actually becomes breaking news, agreed upon by any MSM outlet, and commented upon by Mueller, Barr, or anyone else.
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Fair enough, I just pointed out that Kilimnik had objected to Mueller's portrayal of him immediately upon the report's release.
 
jmotivator said:
Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source | TheHill

But hundreds of pages of government documents — which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.

Why Mueller’s team omitted that part of the Kilimnik narrative from its report and related court filings is not known. But the revelation of it comes as the accuracy of Mueller’s Russia conclusions face increased scrutiny.

The incomplete portrayal of Kilimnik is so important to Mueller’s overall narrative that it is raised in the opening of his report. “The FBI assesses” Kilimnik “to have ties to Russian intelligence,” Mueller’s team wrote on page 6, putting a sinister light on every contact Kilimnik had with Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman.


.... How can Kilimnick be a known intelligence source for the State Department and have that not be mentioned in the Mueller report? :roll:

The Mueller team appears to have intentionally lied through misrepresentation. He knew that Kilimnick was not a Russian agent, but that fact was classified, so he could use Kilimnick to build his case against Manafort knowing that it would be a federal offense to divulge proof that Kilimnick was actually an Intel source for the United States.
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Mueller is a prosecutor. He collects information he feels can be used to prosecute a criminal case. He looks at things like possibly conflicting information as a challenge to overcome should the case go to jury. In his line of work the fact that Kilimnik was also a principle source for the State Department does not exclude the possibility that he was also a Russian operative tasked to assist Trump. Basically, it's the same reason that Mueller never bothered to look at Clinton's campaign or the DNC for ordering the dossier from Fusion. That part of the "investigation" didn't advance his purpose which was to tie Trump to Russia or, failing that, find some other crime to hang around Trump's neck.
 
In a court of law, the prosecution presents it's case which is challenged by the defense. Key findings, facts, witness testimony, etc... are all subject to challenge.

What the Mueller report is, is essentially the prosecution presenting it's case without having to worry about any of that.
 
tres borrachos said:
It isn't breaking news. It's Solomon's opinion. Breaking news is "Policeman shot by man" or "Trump signs Infrastructure bill into law" or "Ford announces 2500 layoffs".

This is his opinion on the Mueller report.
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Desperately protecting the narrative, we get it, you hate trump, facts, truth, anything that might detract from that narrative, be damned.
 
Renae said:
Desperately protecting the narrative, we get it, you hate trump, facts, truth, anything that might detract from that narrative, be damned.
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Great story. Emotional meltdowns are always fun. I do understand your crush on Trump makes you weep when someone points out a simple fact when someone posts a confirmed opinion piece as "breaking news", causing you to go into hysterics.

Let me know when this opinion piece is carried by Fox News as "breaking news".
 
SLC said:
You do understand that you are not a moderator?
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Yes. Why do you ask? You do understand I was commenting on his post, right? Not telling him he posted it in the wrong section, which is what a moderator does.
 
jmotivator said:
Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source | TheHill

But hundreds of pages of government documents — which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.

Why Mueller’s team omitted that part of the Kilimnik narrative from its report and related court filings is not known. But the revelation of it comes as the accuracy of Mueller’s Russia conclusions face increased scrutiny.

The incomplete portrayal of Kilimnik is so important to Mueller’s overall narrative that it is raised in the opening of his report. “The FBI assesses” Kilimnik “to have ties to Russian intelligence,” Mueller’s team wrote on page 6, putting a sinister light on every contact Kilimnik had with Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman.


.... How can Kilimnick be a known intelligence source for the State Department and have that not be mentioned in the Mueller report? :roll:

The Mueller team appears to have intentionally lied through misrepresentation. He knew that Kilimnick was not a Russian agent, but that fact was classified, so he could use Kilimnick to build his case against Manafort knowing that it would be a federal offense to divulge proof that Kilimnick was actually an Intel source for the United States.
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This isn't the only time the Mueller team has pulled this trick. They did the same regarding Mifsud, who had interactions with Papadopoulos. Mueller claims Mifsud has Russian connections, when in reality Mifsud is connected to Italian and US intelligence organizations.

We can expect a lot more questions about the Mueller report. Seems things just don't add up.

Mark Meadows told Sean Hannity: “The best day the Democrats had and will have was the day Robert Mueller spoke… As we look at the Mueller report, there are multiple omissions, (exculpatory omissions)… other material facts are just not accurate in the Mueller Report… Jim Jordan and I are getting prepared, and I tell you the deeper we dive the more problems we find.

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Fishking said:
No one cares about what you just wrote.
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Only Trumpkins care about this as they cling to anything that pretends to cast doubt on their idols obvious guilt..

There, fixed it for you.... now that is a statement that rings true.
 
Mycroft said:
This isn't the only time the Mueller team has pulled this trick. They did the same regarding Mifsud, who had interactions with Papadopoulos. Mueller claims Mifsud has Russian connections, when in reality Mifsud is connected to Italian and US intelligence organizations.

We can expect a lot more questions about the Mueller report. Seems things just don't add up.
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The ends they'll tell us, justify the means.
 
tres borrachos said:
Then please show me which MSM site has used Solomon's opinion piece and is reporting on it as breaking news. Fox News isn't. The Hill isn't calling this breaking news.
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Unless you're hiding under a rock with your eyes closed, you now know that every MSM story the past two years has been based solely on opinion. Every one of them. In fact, they were willingly created fabrications and bald-faced lies.

THAT is proven beyond all doubt.

This story has far more "news" and "facts" than anything you've seen from your MSM in a long time.
 
Erod said:
Unless you're hiding under a rock with your eyes closed, you now know that every MSM story the past two years has been based solely on opinion. Every one of them. In fact, they were willingly created fabrications and bald-faced lies.

THAT is proven beyond all doubt.

This story has far more "news" and "facts" than anything you've seen from your MSM in a long time.
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Of course. When the MSM has reported on a mass workplace shooting in, let's say, Virginia Beach, that was someone's opinion. It didn't happen. Or when they reported on Mueller speaking to the press last week about his report, it didn't really happen. It was merely someone's opinion.

Let me know when Fox News takes Solomon's opinion piece and declares it to be fact. Thanks in advance.
 
Erod said:
Unless you're hiding under a rock with your eyes closed, you now know that every MSM story the past two years has been based solely on opinion. Every one of them. In fact, they were willingly created fabrications and bald-faced lies.

THAT is proven beyond all doubt.

This story has far more "news" and "facts" than anything you've seen from your MSM in a long time.
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You usually can tell by the headlines alone.
 
tres borrachos said:
You do understand that this is not "Breaking News", and that John Solomon is an opinion writer for The Hill, right?
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tres borrachos said:
Of course. When the MSM has reported on a mass workplace shooting in, let's say, Virginia Beach, that was someone's opinion. It didn't happen. Or when they reported on Mueller speaking to the press last week about his report, it didn't really happen. It was merely someone's opinion.

Let me know when Fox News takes Solomon's opinion piece and declares it to be fact. Thanks in advance.
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Yeah like when the MSM said Cohen went to Belgrade or when the MSM told us that Cohen was ordered to lie to Congress by the President. And when the rest of the MSM began picking it up as fact.
 
SLC said:
Yeah like when the MSM said Cohen went to Belgrade or when the MSM told us that Cohen was ordered to lie to Congress by the President. And when the rest of the MSM began picking it up as fact.
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Fascinating.

You mean when the MSM reported as breaking news that Trump's lawyer/fixer Michael Cohen testified to Congress that Trump ordered him to lie? Yes, that never happened. That was someone's opinion that Cohen said that. Cohen never really testified to that. Right?
 
Jack Fabulous said:
In a court of law, the prosecution presents it's case which is challenged by the defense. Key findings, facts, witness testimony, etc... are all subject to challenge.

What the Mueller report is, is essentially the prosecution presenting it's case without having to worry about any of that.
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Which is why he couldn't directly make criminal accusations.
 
Mycroft said:
This isn't the only time the Mueller team has pulled this trick. They did the same regarding Mifsud, who had interactions with Papadopoulos. Mueller claims Mifsud has Russian connections, when in reality Mifsud is connected to Italian and US intelligence organizations.

We can expect a lot more questions about the Mueller report. Seems things just don't add up.
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Barr pretty much said the same thing about things not adding up in regard to the counter intelligence investigation launched against members of the Trump campaign.

Catherine Herridge just published a piece at FOX saying Durham has met with Barr on multiple occasions in recent weeks. She wrote Durham is “very dialed in” and “asking all the right questions,” according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

US Attorney Durham '''very dialed in''' as he launches Russia probe review, met with Barr '''multiple times''': sources | Fox News
 
jmotivator said:
It's not opinion. It is stating a statement of facts about Kilimnick's actual identity which is at odds with the portrayal of Kilimnick by Mueller, and countless exposes written over the last 3 years tying Trump to Russia through Kilimnick.
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It appears you've upset Nurse Ratchet.
 
Has a single John Solomon piece ever panned out?
 
jmotivator said:
It's not an opinion piece, Tres, as much as you want it to be. If all it took was a journalist drawing conclusions from evidence to make it an opinion piece then the *Breaking News* forum would be devoid of articles to discuss.

No point in entertaining your desperate diversion tactic any further.
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Why is the Hill posting it under their opinion section, and pointing out Solomon is an opinion contributor?
 
Airyaman said:
Why is the Hill posting it under their opinion section, and pointing out Solomon is an opinion contributor?
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You'd have to ask the Hill. The piece in question is a statement of facts regarding a key figure in the Muller report and the fact that key facts about that figure were omitted from the Mueller report. That isn't an opinion piece.
 
jmotivator said:
You'd have to ask the Hill. The piece in question is a statement of facts regarding a key figure in the Muller report and the fact that key facts about that figure were omitted from the Mueller report. That isn't an opinion piece.
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So where is the evidence of this?

But hundreds of pages of government documents — which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.

Seems he doesn't link to any source.
 
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