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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    You're right, I'm not fooling anyone, but you're making a fool of yourself. This so called evidence wasn't intentionally destroyed to avoid revelation nor was it known if this information was even useful evidence.
    No, the report clearly states that it was intentionally destroyed. The only one here making a fool of himself is the one ignoranct of the contents of the report for fear of using it and yet who still tries to talk about it.

    Still, your self-pwnage is fun!
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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    Ohhh... you're misunderstanding me. The only thing I think is amiss is the attitude at the top of the Trump Administration. However, I'm not the fount of all wisdom... I could be wrong and so could you.

    One thing I do know for sure is that John Durham is good at what he does. Very good. I've seen the man sink his teeth into something before... and I've seen him follow leads into unexpected directions. The man is like a heat-seeking missile where it comes to corruption and malfeasance. You should probably be aware of this.
    If you think the only thing amiss is the attitude at the top of the Trump Administration, then your perspective of the top of what was our intel services indicates that you've limited yourself in your choice of reading material for too long.
    Here ... this is a nice summary to help expand your perspective ... and also timely given our discussion ... funny how that works sometimes ... read the whole thing and challenge what you can ...
    FBI Tragedy: Elites above the Law | National Review
    EXAMPLE:
    "When it is established beyond a doubt that foreign surveillance of and contact with George Papadopoulos was used to entrap a minor Trump aide as a means of providing an ex post facto justification for the earlier illegal FBI and CIA surveillance of the Trump campaign, and when it is shown without doubt that Steele had little if any corroborating evidence for his dirty dossier, Mueller’s reputation unfortunately will be further eroded.

    Yet the question is not merely whether a Comey, McCabe, or Mueller is atypical of the FBI. Rather, where in the world, if not from the culture of the FBI, did these elite legal investigators absorb the dangerous idea that FBI lawyers and investigators could flout the law and in such arrogant fashion use their vast powers of the government to pursue their own political agendas? And why was there no internal pushback at a supercilious leadership that demonstrably had gone rogue? Certainly, the vast corpus of the Strzok-Page correspondence does reflect a unprofessional, out-of-control culture at the FBI.

    Just imagine: If an agent Peter Strozk interviewed you and overstepped his purview, would you, the aggrieved, then appeal to his boss, Andrew McCabe? And if Andrew McCabe ignored your complaint, would you, the wronged, then seek higher justice from a James Comey, who in turn might rely on a legal opinion from a Lisa Page or a brief from a James Baker? And failing that, might a Robert Mueller as an outside auditor rectify prior FBI misconduct?"

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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    LOL! So you don't actually understand that 'high crimes and misdemeanors' aren't necessarily actual criminal statutes and that impeachment is a political process?

    Why am I utterly unsurprised by that and the fact you'd rationalize away twump's subservience to a hostile foreign power?
    How do you define "subservience to a hostile foreign power"?

    I assume you refer to Russia, and I would ask "why do we ride to ISS with Russia if they are a hostile foreign power?"

    If there is a hostile foreign power that Donald is in the pocket of, odds are it is Israel.

    Just to keep things in perspective.....

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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your unhealthy obsession with cherry picking a half of a sentence while ignoring the other 400 plus pages is telling. And what it tells us is not at all good or informative.
    Your unhealthy obsession with pages and pages while ignoring the conclusion concerning a conspiracy or coordination is quite telling.

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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    If you think the only thing amiss is the attitude at the top of the Trump Administration, then your perspective of the top of what was our intel services indicates that you've limited yourself in your choice of reading material for too long.
    Here ... this is a nice summary to help expand your perspective ... and also timely given our discussion ... funny how that works sometimes ... read the whole thing and challenge what you can ...
    FBI Tragedy: Elites above the Law | National Review
    EXAMPLE:
    "When it is established beyond a doubt that foreign surveillance of and contact with George Papadopoulos was used to entrap a minor Trump aide as a means of providing an ex post facto justification for the earlier illegal FBI and CIA surveillance of the Trump campaign, and when it is shown without doubt that Steele had little if any corroborating evidence for his dirty dossier, Mueller’s reputation unfortunately will be further eroded.

    Yet the question is not merely whether a Comey, McCabe, or Mueller is atypical of the FBI. Rather, where in the world, if not from the culture of the FBI, did these elite legal investigators absorb the dangerous idea that FBI lawyers and investigators could flout the law and in such arrogant fashion use their vast powers of the government to pursue their own political agendas? And why was there no internal pushback at a supercilious leadership that demonstrably had gone rogue? Certainly, the vast corpus of the Strzok-Page correspondence does reflect a unprofessional, out-of-control culture at the FBI.

    Just imagine: If an agent Peter Strozk interviewed you and overstepped his purview, would you, the aggrieved, then appeal to his boss, Andrew McCabe? And if Andrew McCabe ignored your complaint, would you, the wronged, then seek higher justice from a James Comey, who in turn might rely on a legal opinion from a Lisa Page or a brief from a James Baker? And failing that, might a Robert Mueller as an outside auditor rectify prior FBI misconduct?"
    Greetings, bubbabgone.

    Too many "ifs" here, IMO! Whatever happened to integrity and honesty from those we put in charge, and WHY did it become okay to be what it currently is? "Let's pretend" should have no place here! :

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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    No, the report clearly states that it was intentionally destroyed. The only one here making a fool of himself is the one ignoranct of the contents of the report for fear of using it and yet who still tries to talk about it.

    Still, your self-pwnage is fun!
    Then I await your substantiation that the report clearly states evidence was intentionally destroyed.

    Oh, and of course the explanation of why Mueller failed to indict those that intentionally destroyed evidence.

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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Your unhealthy obsession with pages and pages while ignoring the conclusion concerning a conspiracy or coordination is quite telling.
    A vote for near ignorance while rejecting the larger amount of broader information. Now that is a novel approach. It is the Trumpkin way.
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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A vote for near ignorance while rejecting the larger amount of broader information. Now that is a novel approach. It is the Trumpkin way.
    I've asked you numerous times how Mueller's quote changed;

    “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

    You failed to answer. You did lie about what Mueller said once, but that too failed.

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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Then I await your substantiation that the report clearly states evidence was intentionally destroyed.

    Oh, and of course the explanation of why Mueller failed to indict those that intentionally destroyed evidence.
    LOL! Thanks for admitting you haven't read and are fearful of reading the report.
    A. Such substantiation is on page 18. Google it.
    B. I'm not part of the investigatory DOJ team. Why don't you call the DOJ and demand answers? Get back to me w/what you find out, hmmm?
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    Re: Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    If you think the only thing amiss is the attitude at the top of the Trump Administration, then your perspective of the top of what was our intel services indicates that you've limited yourself in your choice of reading material for too long.
    Here ... this is a nice summary to help expand your perspective ... and also timely given our discussion ... funny how that works sometimes ... read the whole thing and challenge what you can ...
    FBI Tragedy: Elites above the Law | National Review
    EXAMPLE:
    "When it is established beyond a doubt that foreign surveillance of and contact with George Papadopoulos was used to entrap a minor Trump aide as a means of providing an ex post facto justification for the earlier illegal FBI and CIA surveillance of the Trump campaign, and when it is shown without doubt that Steele had little if any corroborating evidence for his dirty dossier, Mueller’s reputation unfortunately will be further eroded.

    Yet the question is not merely whether a Comey, McCabe, or Mueller is atypical of the FBI. Rather, where in the world, if not from the culture of the FBI, did these elite legal investigators absorb the dangerous idea that FBI lawyers and investigators could flout the law and in such arrogant fashion use their vast powers of the government to pursue their own political agendas? And why was there no internal pushback at a supercilious leadership that demonstrably had gone rogue? Certainly, the vast corpus of the Strzok-Page correspondence does reflect a unprofessional, out-of-control culture at the FBI.

    Just imagine: If an agent Peter Strozk interviewed you and overstepped his purview, would you, the aggrieved, then appeal to his boss, Andrew McCabe? And if Andrew McCabe ignored your complaint, would you, the wronged, then seek higher justice from a James Comey, who in turn might rely on a legal opinion from a Lisa Page or a brief from a James Baker? And failing that, might a Robert Mueller as an outside auditor rectify prior FBI misconduct?"
    That part right there in bold.... can you tell me exactly what he's referring to? Because as far as I'm aware, it was the Papadopoulos connection that was the tripwire for initiating the FBI counter-intelligence investigation in late July of 2016. As far as I'm concerned, the Steele Dossier thing is a red herring - unless or until Steele's sources and methods can be verified, then as far as I'm concerned, it's gossip. I highly doubt that any Federal Judge granting a FISA warrant would have given it any more credibility than I do... unless they had a greater awareness of Steele's sources and methods.
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