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Leftist Journalists Harass Little Girl

AmNat said:
The newest victim of the media-generated outrage mob is a 14 year old girl who posts political satire videos on YouTube:

Nick Monroe on Twitter: "BuzzFeed attacks children now. @sewernugget I'm sorry that the vultures have come to attack you https://t.co/WJY9g1S9II… https://t.co/BeksIZMdhn"

It goes without saying that it's despicable for an adult to write a hit piece on a child. Though I'm sure that liberals here will find a way to defend it.
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I'd be on "the media's" side if they also went after people that made fun of Christians will equal fervor. If you defend Muslims but not Christians, there's a leftist race-based agenda there. I think the reason the left isn't as hard on Muslims as they should be, given the Muslim record on women's rights, is that Muslims are decidedly non-white.

For leftists, race comes first, then womanhood. That's why the left doesn't care if Muslim women can't drive.
 
digsbe said:
I actually read the article and some of the girl's video. She's despicable.
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1. What specifically did she say on YouTube, that was wrong?
2. Why does her being wrong about that justify a grown man trying to get her kicked off?

Look on the bright side, at least she hasn't smiled at an Indian. Then "respectable conservatives" would really have to denounce her.

Tigerace117 said:
A teenage girl who hopes for millions of innocent people to get murdered loses the right to hide behind the “just a teenager” card.
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I'm glad to know that you think a kid telling an offensive joke in private is sufficient justification for a grown man to bully her.

It's apparent at this point that there's nothing the MSM could do that would cause its defenders to stop defending it. All is justified in pursuit of the cause, right?

Rickeroo said:
I'd be on "the media's" side if they also went after people that made fun of Christians will equal fervor. If you defend Muslims but not Christians, there's a leftist race-based agenda there. I think the reason the left isn't as hard on Muslims as they should be, given the Muslim record on women's rights, is that Muslims are decidedly non-white.

For leftists, race comes first, then womanhood. That's why the left doesn't care if Muslim women can't drive.
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If Fox News published a hit piece on a Muslim teenager, there'd be howling from the rooftops.

Of course, that wouldn't happen, since the right still has morals.
 
I'm not sure which is more disappointing, the complete collapse of all standards on the left, or the willingness of the Vichy Conservatives to immediately denounce anyone the left tells them too (at least the French put up some fight first).
 
AmNat said:
The newest victim of the media-generated outrage mob is a 14 year old girl who posts political satire videos on YouTube:

Nick Monroe on Twitter: "BuzzFeed attacks children now. @sewernugget I'm sorry that the vultures have come to attack you https://t.co/WJY9g1S9II… https://t.co/BeksIZMdhn"

It goes without saying that it's despicable for an adult to write a hit piece on a child. Though I'm sure that liberals here will find a way to defend it.
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You obviously didn't bother to read the article. It is not a hit piece on a child, it is a hit piece on YouTube.

"But the powers of parents over children who live online are limited. And YouTube has taken no ownership over what is happening to kids who grow up inhaling its trademark stench of bigotry, conspiracy, and nihilism. Now the kids, or the smart ones anyway, seem to know it. Indeed, YouTube’s own incompetence and lack of quality is one of Soph’s recurring themes; she acknowledges owing her fame to them. 'The fact that I was 11 and could easily follow the commentary formula should have been a sign that the standards for the genre were terribly low,' she said in the same interview."
 
AmNat said:
I'm not sure which is more disappointing, the complete collapse of all standards on the left, or the willingness of the Vichy Conservatives to immediately denounce anyone the left tells them too (at least the French put up some fight first).
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Wow, you really ARE starting to fit in with the Trump supporter crowd around here.
 
lwf said:
You obviously didn't bother to read the article. It is not a hit piece on a child, it is a hit piece on YouTube.

"But the powers of parents over children who live online are limited. And YouTube has taken no ownership over what is happening to kids who grow up inhaling its trademark stench of bigotry, conspiracy, and nihilism. Now the kids, or the smart ones anyway, seem to know it. Indeed, YouTube’s own incompetence and lack of quality is one of Soph’s recurring themes; she acknowledges owing her fame to them. 'The fact that I was 11 and could easily follow the commentary formula should have been a sign that the standards for the genre were terribly low,' she said in the same interview."
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It's calling for her to lose access to YouTube.

If I wrote an article calling for BuzzFeed to fire Joseph Bernstein (they should), it would be entirely correct to call that a hit piece on Bernstein (whether or not it was also a hit piece on BuzzFeed).
 
AlphaOmega said:
no but if her speech is being censored do you agree that is an issue?
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As long as the government is not censoring it. Youtube has rules.
 
AmNat said:
1. What specifically did she say on YouTube, that was wrong?
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You don't appear to have actually read the Buzzfeed article you're complaining about. This is what you're defending;
“Susan, I’ve known your address since last summer,” Soph said, directly addressing YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki. “I’ve got a Luger and a mitochondrial disease. I don’t care if I live. Why should I care if you live or your children? I just called an Uber. You’ve got about seven minutes to draft up a will. ... I’m coming for you, and it ain’t gonna be pretty.”
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HonestJoe said:
You don't appear to have actually read the Buzzfeed article you're complaining about. This is what you're defending;
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I'm sure the CEO of YouTube was really scared of an internet tough guy routine from a teenage girl.

I stand by my observation, which I have stated on numerous previous occasions, that to be on the left is to lose the ability to understand humor.
 
AmNat said:
The newest victim of the media-generated outrage mob is a 14 year old girl who posts political satire videos on YouTube:

Nick Monroe on Twitter: "BuzzFeed attacks children now. @sewernugget I'm sorry that the vultures have come to attack you [url]https://t.co/WJY9g1S9II… https://t.co/BeksIZMdhn"[/url]

It goes without saying that it's despicable for an adult to write a hit piece on a child. Though I'm sure that liberals here will find a way to defend it.
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I'd tell them to pick on somebody they're own size, but to be fair, that's exactly what they're doing.

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AmNat said:
I'm sure the CEO of YouTube was really scared of an internet tough guy routine from a teenage girl.
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That isn’t the point. You asked what she did wrong. I would argue that directly threatening the life of someone and their children, even in jest, is wrong. The seriousness in context and the correct response is up for debate but it’s still wrong.

My question remains whether you never read the article and so were unaware of this or you were aware of it but consider it perfectly OK?

In the latter case, is it OK only because they person involves is a teenager or female? What is your age cut-off for taking violent threat seriously? If they were male would it make a difference? Can anyone, regardless of age or gender, call their threats “satire” and make everything OK?

Do you have any children? ;)
 
HonestJoe said:
What is your age cut-off for taking violent threat seriously?
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My cutoff is the "true threat" standard articulated by the federal courts:

True Threats | The First Amendment Encyclopedia

In any case, my second question remains:

AmNat said:
2. Why does her being wrong about that justify a grown man trying to get her kicked off?
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I read the hit piece and came across that line, but I didn't think much of it because I'm a reasonable person who knows what a joke is. I should point out that I don't have to agree with everything a person has ever said to oppose attempts to harm them (I know that this concept is difficult for modern leftists to understand).
 
AlphaOmega said:
Are you ok with youtube not censoring all rule violations? What about facebook?
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They can do as they please, being a private company. You can choose to not use them if you prefer.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I didn't ask that.
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Yes, you did. You asked if it was OK and I said they can do as they please. If a person does not like it, then they can choose to not use their services.
 
Airyaman said:
Yes, you did. You asked if it was OK and I said they can do as they please. If a person does not like it, then they can choose to not use their services.
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We all know private companies can do as they please. I asked you if you were ok with it. Is your answer yes?
 
AlphaOmega said:
We all know private companies can do as they please. I asked you if you were ok with it. Is your answer yes?
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I am OK with Youtube and FB doing as they wish, yes. Personally, I do not agree with what you say they have done, but that is beside the point.
 
Airyaman said:
I am OK with Youtube and FB doing as they wish, yes. Personally, I do not agree with what you say they have done, but that is beside the point.
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You don't believe FB and youtube censored conservatives?
 
AlphaOmega said:
Are you aware of any news stories about Facebook, Twitter or youtube censoring conservatives?
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I'm aware of such news stories, but I do not believe them to be accurate.
 
AmNat said:
My cutoff is the "true threat" standard articulated by the federal courts:
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I asked what your age cut-off was given that you’ve made such a big issue of this involving a teenage girl. You appeared to be using that as a major element in your defence of her, both in general in relation to the Buzzfeed article and specifically in relation to the seriousness of her violent threats. The implication is that you might have a different opinion if she were an adult or male.

AmNat said:
I read the hit piece and came across that line, but I didn't think much of it because I'm a reasonable person who knows what a joke is. I should point out that I don't have to agree with everything a person has ever said to oppose attempts to harm them (I know that this concept is difficult for modern leftists to understand).
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Again, you asked what she did wrong as if you didn’t know what it could be. You are coming across as either ignorant (or playing ignorant) about the true nature of her content and the legitimate discussion of it and merely knee-jerk reacting because the article about her was in Buzzfeed.

Like pretty much everyone else who has responded to you, I didn’t read it as a “hit piece” at all, focusing much more on YouTube, parents and wider society that the individual herself. The article was far from perfect (it is contemporary political journalism after all) but it isn’t anything like as bad or one-sided as you’d like to make out and raise much more interesting and relevant questions than the singular one you’re trying to focus on.
 
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