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Journalist says Trump's surprise 2016 victory led to media's Russia probe narrative

And in my humble opinion those efforts to sway an election in Clinton's favor and the staged political coup to unseat a Duly Elected U. S. President has helped Putin beyond his wildest Russian dreams!

And, those efforts and political coup actions were the Major Factor for the nightmare The United(divided)States of America have been living through.....

While, the bare chested Putin is gleefully strutting around on his prancing pony waving his Russian Flag in Victory.

Roseann:)

There you go... The Trump haters played right into Putin's hands in his effort to divide this country but good.
 
While it is true that the Republican Party has been pretty gutless and feckless in getting things done and/or in competently representing those who have put them in office. . .

I think the vast majority of us who voted for Trump did so because he was the ONLY candidate running who had the following qualities:

1. He was no partisan. He was running on the Republican ticket, but he criticizes Republicans just as readily as he criticizes Democrats when they are in the wrong.

2. He is not a member of the permanent political class, i.e. a groomed, handled, polished, trained, coached, scripted and manipulated professional politician.

3. He has a track record for thinking outside the box and not being satisfied with a mediocre or unproductive status quo. He is willing to try something different, risk failure to try something new, until he finds something that actually works, solves the problem, fixes things, or produces good results. He doesn't quit just because somebody says no or tells him it can't be done. Saying it can't be done is waving a red flag at a bull for him.

4. He offered a vision for a stronger, more free, more prosperous, more beautiful America that we haven't seen from a politician in decades. A vision that we could agree to help accomplish.

Not a single other candidate, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green Party or other, offered us any one of those four things.


Allow me to fact check some of those 'qualities' you say convinced you to vote for Trump.

"1. He was no partisan. He was running on the Republican ticket, but he criticizes Republicans just as readily as he criticizes Democrats when they are in the wrong."

Trump had no party affiliation one way or another. Historically he's been a member of any party that happened to be on top at the time. He never even registered to vote until 1987 when he was already living at Trump Tower, he was 41 years old when he first became a registered voter. At that time, he registered as a Republican. But he subsequently changed his party five different times over the course of the next 20 years.

"2. He is not a member of the permanent political class, i.e. a groomed, handled, polished, trained, coached, scripted and manipulated professional politician."

Trump is a mob boss and always has been, there's no other way to say it. I know that from knowing about Trump for the past 40 years of my life. I live close enough to NY to have read and heard about him for most of my life. I knew he was crooked back then and I also know that leopards never change their spots. The closest he ever got to any type of 'political class' was at political fundraisers where his contributions to campaigns like Bill Clinton's mattered to him because at that point in time, he was a Democrat.

"3. He has a track record for thinking outside the box and not being satisfied with a mediocre or unproductive status quo. He is willing to try something different, risk failure to try something new, until he finds something that actually works, solves the problem, fixes things, or produces good results. He doesn't quit just because somebody says no or tells him it can't be done. Saying it can't be done is waving a red flag at a bull for him."

There's two ways to consider what 'thinking outside the box' is. What Trump does is not thinking outside the box, it's thinking in a way that benefits Trump, nothing more than that. He doesn't care about this country or anyone that lives in it. He cares about one thing - Trump.

"4. He offered a vision for a stronger, more free, more prosperous, more beautiful America that we haven't seen from a politician in decades. A vision that we could agree to help accomplish."

This is all so profoundly disturbing that I don't even know where to begin. He's a populist - and apparently you don't have any idea at all about populism. So, I'll just skip over this because it won't register with you anyway. Just do yourself a favor and google 'populism' and 'famous populists' one day and see whose names pop up under that category.

"Not a single other candidate, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green Party or other, offered us any one of those four things."

Nobody offered what Trump did because what he offered are things he couldn't deliver on without a cabal of co-conspirators in Congress and help from Russia and Saudi Arabia.
 
Bit of a leap, there. Corruption in the Trump administration was what was said.

Corruption in the Trump administration. There was no corruption in the administration that involved Trump's administration. Crimes were committed and people indicted but none of them were connected to Trump or his adminstructioin. Again I post if Trump had a brother who worked in Trumps campaign that killed a person, you claim Trump's and his administration is guilty.

Christ take a person that lives in your house and he kills someone so then your guilty of having corruption in your house. What bull ****. Our jails are full of criminals, but that does no make the people that run the jail guilty of anything. But according to you the administrators of the jail are guilty because criminals live there.
 
Allow me to fact check some of those 'qualities' you say convinced you to vote for Trump.

"1. He was no partisan. He was running on the Republican ticket, but he criticizes Republicans just as readily as he criticizes Democrats when they are in the wrong."

Trump had no party affiliation one way or another. Historically he's been a member of any party that happened to be on top at the time. He never even registered to vote until 1987 when he was already living at Trump Tower, he was 41 years old when he first became a registered voter. At that time, he registered as a Republican. But he subsequently changed his party five different times over the course of the next 20 years.

"2. He is not a member of the permanent political class, i.e. a groomed, handled, polished, trained, coached, scripted and manipulated professional politician."

Trump is a mob boss and always has been, there's no other way to say it. I know that from knowing about Trump for the past 40 years of my life. I live close enough to NY to have read and heard about him for most of my life. I knew he was crooked back then and I also know that leopards never change their spots. The closest he ever got to any type of 'political class' was at political fundraisers where his contributions to campaigns like Bill Clinton's mattered to him because at that point in time, he was a Democrat.

"3. He has a track record for thinking outside the box and not being satisfied with a mediocre or unproductive status quo. He is willing to try something different, risk failure to try something new, until he finds something that actually works, solves the problem, fixes things, or produces good results. He doesn't quit just because somebody says no or tells him it can't be done. Saying it can't be done is waving a red flag at a bull for him."

There's two ways to consider what 'thinking outside the box' is. What Trump does is not thinking outside the box, it's thinking in a way that benefits Trump, nothing more than that. He doesn't care about this country or anyone that lives in it. He cares about one thing - Trump.

"4. He offered a vision for a stronger, more free, more prosperous, more beautiful America that we haven't seen from a politician in decades. A vision that we could agree to help accomplish."

This is all so profoundly disturbing that I don't even know where to begin. He's a populist - and apparently you don't have any idea at all about populism. So, I'll just skip over this because it won't register with you anyway. Just do yourself a favor and google 'populism' and 'famous populists' one day and see whose names pop up under that category.

"Not a single other candidate, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green Party or other, offered us any one of those four things."

Nobody offered what Trump did because what he offered are things he couldn't deliver on without a cabal of co-conspirators in Congress and help from Russia and Saudi Arabia.

I have been advised that I am not allowed to respond to this appropriately, so I will just wish you a pleasant afternoon.
 
There you go... The Trump haters played right into Putin's hands in his effort to divide this country but good.

Yes, they did. Sadly, I feel I must remain a cynic concerning anyone that played right into Putin's hands in his effort to divide this country... even if they ever realized that happened...

Unfortunately, I suspect they would not alter their political strategy in their pursuit for political power.

"By Any Means Necessary" seems to be their collective war cry.

Hoping that I'm so wrong with that suspicion. I much prefer... The United States of America over the divided states of America.

Roseann:)
 
That's not happening. There's so much corruption inside the Trump administration that it's going to take years, long after he's dead and gone to uncover it all.

Got ANY facts to support your charge? We have just spent two years, and millions of dollars and nothing showed up, Do you plan to continue your witch hunt, or are you going to find a candidate to beat him?
 
Foe collusion? ZERO. For crimes unrelated? Who cares?

You don't care how many criminals Trump's been associated with over the years? Odd. There's conservatives here who care a lot about someone who once worked for Michelle Obama advising Jussie Smollet.
 
Trump cliched the nomination in May 2016.

Nunes is not a Senator.

It wasn't nighttime (I know you're just repeating what Shiff kept saying) and Susan Rice had unmasked Trump associates whose information had been incidentally collected. The WH should have been made aware of that, no?

You sure know how to pack a lot of mistakes into a short paragraph.

That happens when one does not know ****, and is frothing to say something....
 
Got ANY facts to support your charge? We have just spent two years, and millions of dollars and nothing showed up, Do you plan to continue your witch hunt, or are you going to find a candidate to beat him?

What other president in U.S. history has had a campaign that have had more than 100 contacts with Russian operatives and spies? What other U.S. president has defended Putin and discarded the facts given to him by our own U.S. intelligence agencies. The 'facts' are bare-faced and looking right the hell at you.
 
Allow me to fact check some of those 'qualities' you say convinced you to vote for Trump.

"1. He was no partisan. He was running on the Republican ticket, but he criticizes Republicans just as readily as he criticizes Democrats when they are in the wrong."

Trump had no party affiliation one way or another. Historically he's been a member of any party that happened to be on top at the time. He never even registered to vote until 1987 when he was already living at Trump Tower, he was 41 years old when he first became a registered voter. At that time, he registered as a Republican. But he subsequently changed his party five different times over the course of the next 20 years.

"2. He is not a member of the permanent political class, i.e. a groomed, handled, polished, trained, coached, scripted and manipulated professional politician."

Trump is a mob boss and always has been, there's no other way to say it. I know that from knowing about Trump for the past 40 years of my life. I live close enough to NY to have read and heard about him for most of my life. I knew he was crooked back then and I also know that leopards never change their spots. The closest he ever got to any type of 'political class' was at political fundraisers where his contributions to campaigns like Bill Clinton's mattered to him because at that point in time, he was a Democrat.

"3. He has a track record for thinking outside the box and not being satisfied with a mediocre or unproductive status quo. He is willing to try something different, risk failure to try something new, until he finds something that actually works, solves the problem, fixes things, or produces good results. He doesn't quit just because somebody says no or tells him it can't be done. Saying it can't be done is waving a red flag at a bull for him."

There's two ways to consider what 'thinking outside the box' is. What Trump does is not thinking outside the box, it's thinking in a way that benefits Trump, nothing more than that. He doesn't care about this country or anyone that lives in it. He cares about one thing - Trump.

"4. He offered a vision for a stronger, more free, more prosperous, more beautiful America that we haven't seen from a politician in decades. A vision that we could agree to help accomplish."

This is all so profoundly disturbing that I don't even know where to begin. He's a populist - and apparently you don't have any idea at all about populism. So, I'll just skip over this because it won't register with you anyway. Just do yourself a favor and google 'populism' and 'famous populists' one day and see whose names pop up under that category.

"Not a single other candidate, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green Party or other, offered us any one of those four things."

Nobody offered what Trump did because what he offered are things he couldn't deliver on without a cabal of co-conspirators in Congress and help from Russia and Saudi Arabia.

When are you going to provide the outcome of your "fact check"? What you posted was partisan blather, with spittle all over it.
 
You don't care how many criminals Trump's been associated with over the years? Odd. There's conservatives here who care a lot about someone who once worked for Michelle Obama advising Jussie Smollet.

Try to stay on topic. I'm not going to get excited about what someone did somewhere else, and with other people....
 
You don't care how many criminals Trump's been associated with over the years? Odd. There's conservatives here who care a lot about someone who once worked for Michelle Obama advising Jussie Smollet.

How did I get in that group? Am I supposed to surmise that you support Smolett over the Chicago police department? Once again, who cares? If he's guilty, he'll get his eventually.
 
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What other president in U.S. history has had a campaign that have had more than 100 contacts with Russian operatives and spies? What other U.S. president has defended Putin and discarded the facts given to him by our own U.S. intelligence agencies. The 'facts' are bare-faced and looking right the hell at you.

Your seething hatred has addled you.
 
You don't care how many criminals Trump's been associated with over the years? Odd. There's conservatives here who care a lot about someone who once worked for Michelle Obama advising Jussie Smollet.

So a Canadian cares? Sorry, you don't have standing in this matter.
 
Journalist says Trump's surprise 2016 victory led to media's Russia probe narrative



Taibbi nails it in the first paragraph. Trump was elected because the electorate felt ignored by establishment DC politicians. Plus, IMO, Hillary was a very flawed candidate. Though she won the popular vote, Trump beat her where ordinarily she should have won the EC. She was part of the discontent Taibbi talks about, hence Trump. People tired of DC politics as usual. Trump was the rebellion put in place to address that discontent.

As the article says, some of the "journalists" who took part in the fake "Russian probe" are on the defensive, even doubtful after the Mueller report came out. Chris Cuomo and Rachael Maddow come to mind. Boo hoo :boohoo:
I disagree that journalists acted in disbelief born from psychological reasons. Instead, they acted as, IMO, operatives of the resistance movement. They weren't interested in the truth.
They were interested in getting Trump removed from office because they hate him.

You've got it all wrong. The media's mistake was getting caught up in the whirlwind of Trump's campaign. I don't think it was until after Trump led the RNC to make the Russia platform change that the press smelled a rat, as they should have. It's too bad they didn't look into the bum's taxes and financial dealing earlier. It might have saved the country a lot of misery.
 
Yes, they did. Sadly, I feel I must remain a cynic concerning anyone that played right into Putin's hands in his effort to divide this country... even if they ever realized that happened...

Unfortunately, I suspect they would not alter their political strategy in their pursuit for political power.

"By Any Means Necessary" seems to be their collective war cry.

Hoping that I'm so wrong with that suspicion. I much prefer... The United States of America over the divided states of America.

Roseann:)

For now on, the partisan dividers, #truthercolluders, will forever be known as, Putin Puppets.
And you are right to be concerned, but you are not wrong when you said, by any means necessary.
 
You've got it all wrong. The media's mistake was getting caught up in the whirlwind of Trump's campaign. I don't think it was until after Trump led the RNC to make the Russia platform change that the press smelled a rat, as they should have. It's too bad they didn't look into the bum's taxes and financial dealing earlier. It might have saved the country a lot of misery.

After reading your spiel, it's more than certain, I got nothing wrong.
You're just throwing :monkey poop at the wall, hoping it sticks.
 
Allow me to fact check some of those 'qualities' you say convinced you to vote for Trump.

OK

"1. He was no partisan. He was running on the Republican ticket, but he criticizes Republicans just as readily as he criticizes Democrats when they are in the wrong.

So?

Trump had no party affiliation one way or another. Historically he's been a member of any party that happened to be on top at the time. He never even registered to vote until 1987 when he was already living at Trump Tower, he was 41 years old when he first became a registered voter. At that time, he registered as a Republican. But he subsequently changed his party five different times over the course of the next 20 years.

So?

"2. He is not a member of the permanent political class, i.e. a groomed, handled, polished, trained, coached, scripted and manipulated professional politician."

So?

Trump is a mob boss and always has been, there's no other way to say it. I know that from knowing about Trump for the past 40 years of my life. I live close enough to NY to have read and heard about him for most of my life. I knew he was crooked back then and I also know that leopards never change their spots. The closest he ever got to any type of 'political class' was at political fundraisers where his contributions to campaigns like Bill Clinton's mattered to him because at that point in time, he was a Democrat.

You mean like one of these guys who were mob bosses?
Charles 'Lucky' Luciano, Pablo Escobar, John Gotti, Hisayuki Machii, Tony 'Big Tuna' Accardo, Salvatore Riina

"3. He has a track record for thinking outside the box and not being satisfied with a mediocre or unproductive status quo. He is willing to try something different, risk failure to try something new, until he finds something that actually works, solves the problem, fixes things, or produces good results. He doesn't quit just because somebody says no or tells him it can't be done. Saying it can't be done is waving a red flag at a bull for him."

Thinking outside the box, I like that.

There's two ways to consider what 'thinking outside the box' is. What Trump does is not thinking outside the box, it's thinking in a way that benefits Trump, nothing more than that. He doesn't care about this country or anyone that lives in it. He cares about one thing - Trump.

Now Trump does not think outside the box, make up your mind.

"4. He offered a vision for a stronger, more free, more prosperous, more beautiful America that we haven't seen from a politician in decades. A vision that we could agree to help accomplish."

Great and he is acting on what he campaigned on.

This is all so profoundly disturbing that I don't even know where to begin. He's a populist - and apparently you don't have any idea at all about populism. Just do yourself a favor and google 'populism'

Oh so we're supposed to believe some pundit's opinion. Hell I can judge Trump for myself.

Nobody offered what Trump did because what he offered are things he couldn't deliver on without a cabal of co-conspirators in Congress and help from Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Lets look at some of Trump's accomplishments.

No surprise, there is not a liberal that supports anything Trump does. You don't support what Trump as done with the economy, Trump creating jobs you hate. Bringing back manufacturing jobs you don't support, because Obama said those jobs are not coming back. You don't support that our unemployment rate is at 3.7%. You don't support a solid year at 3% GDP. You don't support Trump telling NATO to pay up their fair share of the NATO agreement which is 2% of their GDP and now the members are paying up more than ever, making NATO stronger than ever. You don't support Trump taking on China to level the playing field on China's tariffs and you don't support Trump in trying to stop China from stealing our intellectual capital. You don't support Trump taking out ISIS. You don't support Trump having to go and enforce Obama's RED LINE on Syria. You don't support Trump's efforts to pull in NK and you don't support Trump bringing home our held hostages. And you really don't support that Trump got some but not all of the remains of our brave men and woman who lost their lives in NK. No president before him as done that. You don't support Trump renegotiating NAFTA to get a better deal. You don't support Trumps border security. You don't support Trump approving the Keystone Pipeline that is safer and less costly to move the oil. You don't support Trump opening up ANWAR. You really don't support the stock market is at record highs. And this really pisses you off, you don't support Trump appointing Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the SC.
 
I haven't had any respect for Taibbi since he penned that swill "The 52 Funniest Things About the Upcoming Death of the Pope". I actually can't say I had any respect for him before that either. His "Andrew Breitbart: Death of a Douche" nonsense was the last straw for me. He should crawl under a rock.
 
For now on, the partisan dividers, #truthercolluders, will forever be known as, Putin Puppets.
And you are right to be concerned, but you are not wrong when you said, by any means necessary.

The branding game! Putin Puppets! Big League Brand! :lamo

I agree! It is a :donkeyfla bray

:usflag2: :thumbs:

Roseann:)
 
After reading your spiel, it's more than certain, I got nothing wrong.
You're just throwing :monkey poop at the wall, hoping it sticks.

Your failure to cry like a baby and not even discuss one thing I said proves I got it right. But keep saying nothing.
 
I haven't had any respect for Taibbi since he penned that swill "The 52 Funniest Things About the Upcoming Death of the Pope". I actually can't say I had any respect for him before that either. His "Andrew Breitbart: Death of a Douche" nonsense was the last straw for me. He should crawl under a rock.

His book on the Trump campaign was, I think, one of the first to cover that mess and he did a good job. His reporting has generally been quite good, in my view.
 
Your failure to cry like a baby and not even discuss one thing I said proves I got it right. But keep saying nothing.

. Keep throwing monkey poo at the wall and hope for a better outcome. I don't care.
 
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