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What is really "fake news?"

and Trump is all buddy buddy and kissie kissie with Kim Jung Un and Vladimir Putin. I see little difference.

Trump has the most sanctions against NK than any before him. Of course a liberal that hates Trump ignores that fact. Compared to Obama who did absolutely nothing to pull in NK nuke program, not a damn thing. Obama was and is a coward. And he loves up to Farrakhan and brings him on stage for the world to see he standing shoulder to shoulder and smiling in celebration Farrakhan's racism and his hatred of Jews. Obama was a racist and he hates Jews. Parading Farrakhan around on stage for the world to see, that he supports Farrakhan's racism and his hated of Jews.

Now to Putin, here is your Obamafail kissing up to Putin and telling him he can be more flexible after he was elected. Yeah Obama can be more flexible with Putin to do what. Obama was loving up to Putin from day one and then he tells Putin wait until I'm re-elected and I can more flexible than I was before. Don't worry Putin I've got it covered, no problem we'll continue to work together so you can do what you want.

Putin told Obama to stay out of Crimea and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obama to NOT sell arms to Ukrainian and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obama to NOT put our missile defense shield in NATO, he again says yes sir. Stupidity
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Obama yells out his RED LINE to Syria to never use WMD’s on its people again, Yet Syria walked all over Obama’s RED LINE. Putin told Obama to stay out and Obama says Yes Sir. Coward.
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Obama asked Putin of all people to certify that all of Syria’s WMD were taking out of Syria and Putin lied to Obama. Stupidity
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Obama told Russia that once he is reelected he can be more flexible to what Putin wants. How stupid was that. Obama loved Putin and did whatever Putin wanted. Watch the video. Stupidity
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video of Obama telling russia he can be more flexable - Yahoo Video Search Results
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Obama was in office and what did he do to shut down NK’s nuclear program. Absolutely nothing. Obama was a stupid coward.
 
Trump has the most sanctions against NK than any before him. Of course a liberal that hates Trump ignores that fact. Compared to Obama who did absolutely nothing to pull in NK nuke program, not a damn thing. Obama was and is a coward. And he loves up to Farrakhan and brings him on stage for the world to see he standing shoulder to shoulder and smiling in celebration Farrakhan's racism and his hatred of Jews. Obama was a racist and he hates Jews. Parading Farrakhan around on stage for the world to see, that he supports Farrakhan's racism and his hated of Jews.

Now to Putin, here is your Obamafail kissing up to Putin and telling him he can be more flexible after he was elected. Yeah Obama can be more flexible with Putin to do what. Obama was loving up to Putin from day one and then he tells Putin wait until I'm re-elected and I can more flexible than I was before. Don't worry Putin I've got it covered, no problem we'll continue to work together so you can do what you want.

Putin told Obama to stay out of Crimea and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obama to NOT sell arms to Ukrainian and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obama to NOT put our missile defense shield in NATO, he again says yes sir. Stupidity
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Obama yells out his RED LINE to Syria to never use WMD’s on its people again, Yet Syria walked all over Obama’s RED LINE. Putin told Obama to stay out and Obama says Yes Sir. Coward.
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Obama asked Putin of all people to certify that all of Syria’s WMD were taking out of Syria and Putin lied to Obama. Stupidity
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Obama told Russia that once he is reelected he can be more flexible to what Putin wants. How stupid was that. Obama loved Putin and did whatever Putin wanted. Watch the video. Stupidity
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video of Obama telling russia he can be more flexable - Yahoo Video Search Results
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Obama was in office and what did he do to shut down NK’s nuclear program. Absolutely nothing. Obama was a stupid coward.

So, Trump is just continuing the Obama policy of cozying up to Russia. Well, that's comforting. As for Kim Jung Un, Trump accomplished exactly nothing with his meetings with that despot.

You say, "Trump has the most sanctions against NK than any before him," what does that mean? Can you back that statement up? Have his sanctions done any good?
 
So, Trump is just continuing the Obama policy of cozying up to Russia. Well, that's comforting. As for Kim Jung Un, Trump accomplished exactly nothing with his meetings with that despot.

I laid out your beloved Obama kissing up to Putin and how he is going to help Putin with his plans when Obama got reelected.

Now instead of lib service post up your list of Trump cozying up to Putin, then we can compare.

You say, "Trump has the most sanctions against NK than any before him," what does that mean? Can you back that statement up? Have his sanctions done any good?

Yes it's True, Trump got the UN to participate on the sanctions, and no president before him has been able to accomplish that.

Sure his sanctions have done a lot of good, and Trump is not done yet. Compare what Obama did in 8 yrs, which he did nothing, except tell NK you can build all the Nukes you want and all those missiles you want vs.Trump's 2 yrs.

BTW

President Obama's national-security adviser, H.R. McMaster SAID

The Trump administration’s most striking statement on North Korea has come not from Donald Trump himself, with his talk of locked-and-loaded fire and fury, but from the president’s national-security adviser, H.R. McMaster. In an August interview with ABC, McMaster said something that received little attention relative to its import. He disagreed with the assessment of Susan Rice, his predecessor in the Obama administration, that the United States and its allies could, if need be, “tolerate nuclear weapons in North Korea” and “rely on traditional deterrence” to prevent the North from using them, just as they had deterred the Soviet Union from using its much more massive nuclear arsenal during the Cold War.
 
I laid out your beloved Obama kissing up to Putin and how he is going to help Putin with his plans when Obama got reelected.

Now instead of lib service post up your list of Trump cozying up to Putin, then we can compare.



Yes it's True, Trump got the UN to participate on the sanctions, and no president before him has been able to accomplish that.

Sure his sanctions have done a lot of good, and Trump is not done yet. Compare what Obama did in 8 yrs, which he did nothing, except tell NK you can build all the Nukes you want and all those missiles you want vs.Trump's 2 yrs.

BTW

President Obama's national-security adviser, H.R. McMaster SAID

The Trump administration’s most striking statement on North Korea has come not from Donald Trump himself, with his talk of locked-and-loaded fire and fury, but from the president’s national-security adviser, H.R. McMaster. In an August interview with ABC, McMaster said something that received little attention relative to its import. He disagreed with the assessment of Susan Rice, his predecessor in the Obama administration, that the United States and its allies could, if need be, “tolerate nuclear weapons in North Korea” and “rely on traditional deterrence” to prevent the North from using them, just as they had deterred the Soviet Union from using its much more massive nuclear arsenal during the Cold War.

Have you really forgotten about Trump believing Putin over our own intelligence agencies when Putin told him that Russia didn't interfere in US elections? How about taking Putin's word over those same agencies about NK's nuclear threat?

NK has not given up its nuclear weapons. Kim Jung Un has been playing Trump all along.
 
Have you really forgotten about Trump believing Putin over our own intelligence agencies when Putin told him that Russia didn't interfere in US elections? How about taking Putin's word over those same agencies about NK's nuclear threat?

Have you really forgotten that our intelligence agencies got it dead wrong that Iraq had WMD's, hell you would believe anything they say.

NK has not given up its nuclear weapons. Kim Jung Un has been playing Trump all along.

Let's compare Obama did not do a damn thing with NK, zip zero. Obama gave NK the green light to make all the nukes he wanted and all the missiles he wanted. Yeah that was coward Obama, he was so afraid of NK to even put some miner sanctions on NK. And it was under Obama's time in office that not one of our brave men and woman who died in NK came home. There were three president before Obama that NK returned some of our brave home, then under Obama no remains of our brave did not come home, but under Trump the remains of our brave began to come home again. Further Trump in comparison has tough sanctions on NK that the UN signed onto, never happened before.
 
Have you really forgotten that our intelligence agencies got it dead wrong that Iraq had WMD's, hell you would believe anything they say.



Let's compare Obama did not do a damn thing with NK, zip zero. Obama gave NK the green light to make all the nukes he wanted and all the missiles he wanted. Yeah that was coward Obama, he was so afraid of NK to even put some miner sanctions on NK. And it was under Obama's time in office that not one of our brave men and woman who died in NK came home. There were three president before Obama that NK returned some of our brave home, then under Obama no remains of our brave did not come home, but under Trump the remains of our brave began to come home again. Further Trump in comparison has tough sanctions on NK that the UN signed onto, never happened before.

The intelligence about Iraq and its WMDs was wrong.

Therefore, nothing the intelligence community says can be trusted.

Therefore, we may as well disband the CIA.

Right?

Oh, and multi national sanctions were imposed on NK in 2006. How long ago did you think King Trump had been coronated?
 
The intelligence about Iraq and its WMDs was wrong.

Therefore, nothing the intelligence community says can be trusted.

Therefore, we may as well disband the CIA.

Right?

Oh, and multi national sanctions were imposed on NK in 2006. How long ago did you think King Trump had been coronated?
Niger uranium forgeries - Wikipedia Actually, the Intel was right, Bush jr admin manipulated facts to get the war Cheney wanted. Ambassador Wilson set the record straight. C. Powell and Condi ignored intel agencies. Fake news is not the news that tells truth, contrary to dictator who tells you different.
 
This thread is a textbook example of whataboutism in action.
 
The intelligence about Iraq and its WMDs was wrong.

Therefore, nothing the intelligence community says can be trusted

Yep your spot on the Intelligence was dead wrong on the WMD's in Iraq

Therefore, we may as well disband the CIA

When Brennan was running the CIA I would not disband the CIA but fire that lying, bias, scumbag Brennan


Wrong!!!!! I don't trust the FBI, remember J Edgar Hoover, and then Comey, I never trusted Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe and many others.

As for trusting the intelligence, I do not trust them on blind faith but rather question their findings. I take it you trust them all on blind faith. It they said it, it must be true.

Oh, and multi national sanctions were imposed on NK in 2006. How long ago did you think King Trump had been coronated?

Did Obama have China on board with all the sanctions?
 
Yep your spot on the Intelligence was dead wrong on the WMD's in Iraq



When Brennan was running the CIA I would not disband the CIA but fire that lying, bias, scumbag Brennan



Wrong!!!!! I don't trust the FBI, remember J Edgar Hoover, and then Comey, I never trusted Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe and many others.

As for trusting the intelligence, I do not trust them on blind faith but rather question their findings. I take it you trust them all on blind faith. It they said it, it must be true.



Did Obama have China on board with all the sanctions?


I dunno... did Trump impose some new sanctions that don't date to the Obama Administration?

Is Obama still president?
 
Basically 'FAKE NEWS' is anything that Trump tweets or talks about. A.K.A. 'Trump's Lies' = 'FAKE NEWS'
 
I dunno... did Trump impose some new sanctions that don't date to the Obama Administration?

Yes he did, Trump has sanctions on NK that Obama didn't have.

Is Obama still president?

Obama is not president but what he did to destroy this country is still relevant and always will be.
 
Yes he did, Trump has sanctions on NK that Obama didn't have.



Obama is not president but what he did to destroy this country is still relevant and always will be.

Is that the same Obama who was taken to task for blaming problems on the Bush Administration?
 
The point is that Trump thinks that Infowars is real, and the mainstream news outlets are fake. Trump has bought into a wacky conspiracy theory site.

OK, Trump, here's your apology:

I'm really sorry that we've managed to elect a man who believes nonsense to the White House. I'm sorry you listen to and accept the total BS that is spouted by Alex Jones. I'm sorry that you're not still doing reality TV and leaving running the country to the adults.

I have an apology too.

I apologise to the entire human race, for twits who think they can slip a clip in from 2015, as current fact.
I also apologise to all the news hounds out there, who have been left with very few venues to gather real information and news.

And finally...I'd like to congratulate Dittohead not! for exemplifying exactly why CNN and so many others are...

FAKE NEWS.
 
Is that the same Obama who was taken to task for blaming problems on the Bush Administration?

Let me put is this way, during the Obama years all you libs did was to blame Bush for everything, in and effort to cover for Obama's failures.
 
Let me put is this way, during the Obama years all you libs did was to blame Bush for everything, in and effort to cover for Obama's failures.

and now all of the Trump libs are blaming Obama on Trump's failures. That was my point.

BTW, you don't seriously think Trump is a conservative, do you?
 
I have an apology too.

I apologise to the entire human race, for twits who think they can slip a clip in from 2015, as current fact.
I also apologise to all the news hounds out there, who have been left with very few venues to gather real information and news.

And finally...I'd like to congratulate Dittohead not! for exemplifying exactly why CNN and so many others are...

FAKE NEWS.

When I posted a clip from four years ago, I must have forgotten about the mutability of the past.
 
and now all of the Trump libs are blaming Obama on Trump's failures. That was my point.

Here are Obama's failures, I look forward to your list

Putin told Obama to stay out of Crimea and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obama to NOT sell arms to Ukrainian and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obama to NOT put our missile defense shield in NATO, he again says yes sir. Stupidity
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Obama yells out his RED LINE to Syria to never use WMD’s on its people again, Yet Syria walked all over Obama’s RED LINE. Putin told Obama to stay out and Obama says Yes Sir. Coward.
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Obama asked Putin of all people to certify that all of Syria’s WMD were taking out of Syria and Putin lied to Obama. Stupidity
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Obama told Russia that once he is reelected he can be more flexible to what Putin wants. How stupid was that. Obama loved Putin and did whatever Putin wanted. Watch the video. Stupidity
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video of Obama telling russia he can be more flexable - Yahoo Video Search Results
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Obama was in office and what did he do to shut down NK’s nuclear program. Absolutely nothing. Obama was a stupid coward.
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Obama cuts a deal with Iran to delay the making of nukes for 10 yrs and the agreement does not have inspections anywhere anytime. Not only that, no one can inspect any of Iran’s military bases.
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Further Obama flies into Iran in the middle of the night billions in cash to Iran (which was a demand by Iran) so that they could fund their terrorist groups without the cash being traced. Stupidity
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Obama pulls out of Iraq and leaves ISIS to materialize and when they do he calls them the JV Team. However that JV Team was not JV at all, making Obama to go back into Iraq to try to eradicate ISIS by tying the hands of our military. Thus he could not eradicate ISIS. Stupidity
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Obama, the then national security adviser Susan Rice claims that Bergdahl served with "honor and distinction." Of which Obama trades five terrorist from Clubgetmo to release a trader to this country. Further Obama holds a bizarre White House Rose Garden ceremony with Bergdahl's parents. Stupidity.
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Obama bombs the crap out of Libya and walks away. And in doing so the resistance builds and raids our embassy killing four of our own. And Obama goes around calling it a protest of some stupid video. How stupid can this dumbass be?
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Obama came up with Fast and Furious selling arms to the Mexican drug cartels in an effort to trace those arms but the Administration lost track of the arms and one of those arms was used to shoot and kill one of our border patrol agents. Stupidity
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Obama borrows and spends 10 trillion doubling our national and has the crown of borrowing more than all the president before him combined. And what did we get, the worst economic recovery in US History. Stupidity
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Obama gives Solyndra 535 million of tax payer money to make solar panels, the company goes broke. Stupidity
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Obama bails out GM with taxpayer money that we lost 11.2 billion on the deal. Stupidity The U.S. Government Lost $11.2 Billion Bailing Out GM | HuffPost
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Obama campaigned on closing Clubgetmo and guess what it’s still in use. Stupidity
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Obama signature so called achievement was Obamacare that he promised you can keep your Dr., you can keep your insurance, and you’ll save $2,500 per yr per family on your health insurance. Guess what Obamacare was a complete failure. Stupidity YouTube
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Obama rollout of Obamacare was the worst in US History, and he had to continue to write executive orders to push out dates of different parts of Obamacare so that it would not crash under his term in office. Not one Republican voted for Obama signature failure. Stupidity
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Obama locked up Utah’s land for a park but that got overturned by Trump. How stupid was that????
Obama claims another 1.6 million Western acres as national monuments - Washington Times
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Obama, did what to get NATO to get them to pay their fair share which is 2% of their GDP, but none of them were paying up except the US paying our share and subsidizing them. Stupidity
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Obama buys his allies, Stupidity
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Obama killed the Keystone pipeline, why? Because he thought the pipeline would be safer and less expensive, can’t have that so he killed it. Stupidity
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What did Obama do against China for stealing our intellectual capital? And China ripping us off on trade. He did not do a ****ing thing, what a stupid coward he was?
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What did Obama do to kill NAFTA that was ripping off our country? And renegotiate NAFTA for a better deal. He did nothing. What a stupid coward he was?
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I could go on and on but no use.
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I would say Harvard didn’t teach him a ****ing thing.
 
Here are Obama's failures, I look forward to your list

Obama bombs the crap out of Libya and walks away. And in doing so the resistance builds and raids our embassy killing four of our own. And Obama goes around calling it a protest of some stupid video. How stupid can this dumbass be?
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Obama came up with Fast and Furious selling arms to the Mexican drug cartels in an effort to trace those arms but the Administration lost track of the arms and one of those arms was used to shoot and kill one of our border patrol agents. Stupidity
*
Obama borrows and spends 10 trillion doubling our national and has the crown of borrowing more than all the president before him combined. And what did we get, the worst economic recovery in US History. Stupidity
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Obama gives Solyndra 535 million of tax payer money to make solar panels, the company goes broke. Stupidity
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Obama bails out GM with taxpayer money that we lost 11.2 billion on the deal. Stupidity The U.S. Government Lost $11.2 Billion Bailing Out GM | HuffPost
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Obama campaigned on closing Clubgetmo and guess what it’s still in use. Stupidity
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Obama signature so called achievement was Obamacare that he promised you can keep your Dr., you can keep your insurance, and you’ll save $2,500 per yr per family on your health insurance. Guess what Obamacare was a complete failure. Stupidity YouTube
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Obama rollout of Obamacare was the worst in US History, and he had to continue to write executive orders to push out dates of different parts of Obamacare so that it would not crash under his term in office. Not one Republican voted for Obama signature failure. Stupidity
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Obama locked up Utah’s land for a park but that got overturned by Trump. How stupid was that????
Obama claims another 1.6 million Western acres as national monuments - Washington Times
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Obama, did what to get NATO to get them to pay their fair share which is 2% of their GDP, but none of them were paying up except the US paying our share and subsidizing them. Stupidity
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Obama buys his allies, Stupidity
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Obama killed the Keystone pipeline, why? Because he thought the pipeline would be safer and less expensive, can’t have that so he killed it. Stupidity
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What did Obama do against China for stealing our intellectual capital? And China ripping us off on trade. He did not do a ****ing thing, what a stupid coward he was?
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What did Obama do to kill NAFTA that was ripping off our country? And renegotiate NAFTA for a better deal. He did nothing. What a stupid coward he was?
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I could go on and on but no use.
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I would say Harvard didn’t teach him a ****ing thing.

A few of those things actually were mistakes by the Obama Administration.

Most of them are hyped or made up, as you know.

Meanwhile, Trump has managed to pick a fight with the media and declared the mainstream news, the ones who actually fact check their stories, the "fake news" while relying on the likes of Brietbart, Infowars, and the World Net daily, et. al., as real news sources.

Trump is even worse than the Republicans think Obama was. He shut down the government over his wall, after Congress said no, then declared a national emergency in order to bypass Congress. He vowed to repeal and replace the ACA with something better that would cover everyone, but has no plan to replace anything. He vowed to issue an EO to end birthright citizenship, this in spite of the 14th. Amendment. He started trade wars. He is now leaping and hooting saying that the Mueller Report "exonerated" him, when even the Reader's Digest condensed version some people have been able to see specifically says the opposite. He stated that he believes Russia over our own intelligence community. He calls his political rivals childish names.

(had to redact some of your post. Too long to post.
 
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