Apologies to President Trump

Oborosen said:

Even to this day, the suit is still based on allegations and his would hardly the first company to settle out of an issue. Rather then cause a fuss over something so idiotic. I've seen stories that put people claiming these same cases of discrimination, as living as far as several states away. So as another "not first" his company being targeted for easy money, is still nothing new.

So if a still, alleged story and his beef with a judge he's been butting heads with over the last few years is all you can come up with. Don't feel bad. Because this is about the best of seen from someone I've asked such a question of.

So answer the question. Does simply being a birther, make you a racist?

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I'll answer your question. No, it does not.

It is used to take advantage of a political unanswered legal question that can be used against a particular type of political opponent regardless of their skin color.

Five other presidential “birther” controversies from American history - National Constitution Center

Five other presidential “birther” controversies from American history

Currently, GOP front runner Donald Trump wants Cruz to legally prove that the Canadian-born Senator is qualified to run for the White House. Cruz has insisted that “the son of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a natural-born citizen.”

Article II, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution requires that “[n]o person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of President.” Cruz was born in Canada in 1970, with his father being from Cuba and his mother coming from Delaware in the United States.

Recent thoughts from constitutional experts seem to side with Cruz’s argument, but not all experts agree – including Cruz’s own law professor from Harvard. Laurence Tribe recently told the Guardian in a series of email exchanges that “there is no single, settled answer. And our Supreme Court has never addressed the issue.”

1.Chester Alan Arthur

In 1880, Arthur ran as the vice presidential candidate on the James Garfield ticket for the Republican Party. Arthur became President after Garfield’s death in 1881 and there were rumors – spread by campaign rivals - that Arthur had been born in Canada, and not Vermont, as he claimed.

2. Charles Evans Hughes

There was also a birthplace controversy over the 1916 presidential candidacy of Charles Evans Hughes, the Republican who narrowly lost to Woodrow Wilson.

3. Barry Goldwater

The 1964 Republican presidential candidate was born in the Arizona Territory in 1909 before Arizona was admitted as a state. Goldwater was born in an organized incorporated territory that was formed in 1863, an act that is interpreted to grant U.S. citizenship to folks born there.

4. George Romney

Democrats questioned Romney’s ability to run for President in 1967 when congressman Emmanuel Celler, a Democrat, publicly expressed “serious doubts” about Romney’s eligibility. A New York Law Journal article later sided with Romney, who insisted he was a natural-born citizen.

5. John McCain

Senator McCain faced questions in the 2008 election, since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936. His parents were born in Iowa and Oklahoma. McCain’s father was a Navy admiral.

In addition to having two parents who were American citizens, McCain was born in a region that was under the control of a United States treaty agreement, which was considered as a sovereign United States territory.

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AlbqOwl said:

And so the next phase begins. That would be the 'okay-we-didn't-get-him-on-the-Russian-collusion-thing-but-we'll-find-something-he-is-guilty-of-or-that-we-can-make-him-look-guilty' phase of dishonest politicking. And we don't care who gets hurt or had badly we harm the country doing it pledge of the Trump haters.

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First, show us one example of Trump EVER apologizing for one of his misdeeds. The man is not due an apology simply because he isn't human enough to apologize for his own shortcomings.

Second, the Russian investigation was a righteous investigation. Trump was a fool to surround himself with so many corrupt individuals, many of whom had Russian ties. Trump himself had dubious Russian ties and has behaved toward Russia in a manner that is somewhere between abnormal for an American President to downright abhorrent, as were his actions regarding the investigation as the investigation was on going. Of course that needs to be investigated. It would be gross negligence to ignore it. While its great for Trump and the country that there was no criminal activity attributed to the Trump campaign, he has hardly been absolved a wrong doing (not to mention the other 16 investigations where Trump or the Trump organization is either a subject or target). He is hardly due an apology.

The idea that Trump is due an apology is beyond laughable.

AlbqOwl said:

You know, the I won't do the right thing until somebody else does what I consider the right thing argument is a surefire way to keep everybody doing the wrong thing and never getting past that.

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I disagree!

The right thing is to treat a person exactly what he deserves. Notice that this is not about treating somebody else the same way Trump treated Obama , It is about how to treat Trump himself!

Now, let's see how the other investigations will end up...

and something else...

the only institution which can exonerate a president from any wrongdoing is the House which has the power to impeach a president or the Senate (after an impeachment). Mueller said SPECIFICALLY that he does not exonerate Trump for any wrongdoing regarding obstruction of justice. An AG which even before he was hired had expressed his opinion thata president cannot be charged with obstruction of justice is NOT the person who can exonerate Trump. So, until the House sees the FULL report without a single word redacted, Trump is not exonerated!

AlbqOwl said:

And I heard briefly--I hope I heard right--Judge Jeannine will be restored to her slot today?

In retrospect though I am not yet ready to pop the cork on the champagne that the loss in numbers at CNN and MSNBC is all out of disgust with their reporting though I suspect a lot of it is. According to Rasmussen this week, 61% of voters say the Democrats should not continue to investigate and should move on.

But I suspect at least some of the folks no longer tuning in at CNN and MSNBC are doing so because they are disappointed that they are no longer doing their one note Russia Russia Russia conspiracy theory. Those people are terribly disappointed that President Trump is not going to be booted from office and maybe even going to prison.

But perhaps we can hope that a significant majority of Americans, even Democrats, still do think for themselves and aren't willing pawns to repeat attack media and partisan talking points however dishonest. I hope that isn't a foolish hope.

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This may be the effect of subsisting off the "Trump bump" for so long. That when it's all gone, they'll have no substance to stay afloat on.

In general the media is awful about this. They spread unproven allegations like they're facts and destroy people's reputations with no recourse. All those people, including President Trump, deserve apologies. Trump is probably less deserving than most given the fact that he's the President and he loves to start fights with the media.

AlbqOwl said:

He HAS been cleared of Russian collusion by the FBI, by the IG, by Congress, and now by the Mueller investigation. Apologies are warranted immediately.

If Barr's now widely reported summary was in error Mueller would have said something.

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People full of hate never apologize.

AlbqOwl said:

I won't speculate on whether this piece is a genuine apology from Sharyl Attkisson or it is intended to rebuilt her own reputation as a journalist.

Whichever it is, it is spot on. And it is appreciated.

With the conclusions of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe now known to a significant degree, it seems apologies are in order. . .

. . .We in the media allowed unproven charges and false accusations to dominate the news landscape for more than two years, in a way that was wildly unbalanced and disproportionate to the evidence.

We did a poor job of tracking down leaks of false information. We failed to reasonably weigh the motives of anonymous sources and those claiming to have secret, special evidence of Trump’s “treason.”

As such, we reported a tremendous amount of false information, always to Trump’s detriment.

And when we corrected our mistakes, we often doubled down more than we apologized. We may have been technically wrong on that tiny point, we would acknowledge. But, in the same breath, we would insist that Trump was so obviously guilty of being Russian President Vladimir Putin’s puppet that the technical details hardly mattered.

So, a round of apologies seem in order. . .​​

Apologies to President Trump | TheHill

And those apologies should not be limited to just a dishonest, unethical, incompetent, and/or irresponsible media. They should also come from many talking heads they put on television, many Democrats in the halls of Congress, and a plethora of people who repeated, parroted, and sometimes invented lies to post on social media and message boards.

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They need to apologize to the American people. This outright blatant misuse of our justice system just shows how corrupt and pathetic our government has become. The media does not answer to the people. If the people want and enjoy such lies, deceit, and hate then they shall reap what they sow. It is only a reflection of what they have become.

One of the problems with the obstruction of Justice change, that still looms over Trump, is the legal ambiguity between common sense justice versus bureaucratic protocol.

If you were falsely accused of a crime, that you did not do, common sense justice is about the innocent person being set free and made whole. Justice is not about blindly cooperating with a bureaucratic system this is trying to railroad you. That is not justice. This is injustice. Justice is about the innocent man being set free and wha was right being restored.

Trump was set free of all charges. In spite of the accusation, from the very beginning, Trump was always innocent of the charges. This was buried under false speculation. Speculation was not proof. How can an innocent man, obstruct justice, by defending himself? His defensive actions were always in the direction of common sense justice; designed to help the innocent man be set free. Obstruction of Justice, should be applied to all those who pushed hard to create the false narrative and tried to railroad the innocent man. If they had succeeded, justice would have been obstructed and delayed until the appeal process.

The legal system appears to define obstruction of injustice as anything that inhibits the bureaucracy from following its procedures. Obstruction of justice appears to have nothing to do with the final verdict, but only with anything that slow the gears of the bureaucracy, even of that bureaucracy decides to railroad a man and create common sense injustice. Schiff should be brought up on obstruction of justice, since he goal all along, was to railroad an innocent, and prevent common sense justice.

This reasoning may have been the same as Mueller's and Barr's. On the one hand, Trump did have an impact on the bureaucracy, mostly as a out spoken public figure. But on the other hand, how can someone ultimately found innocent, obstruct an investigation that seeks this end, if the goal was also common sense justice; Trump being free.

This ambiguity opens the door to finding Schiff, obstructing justice since he continued to attempt to railroad Trump without any evidence; railroad an innocent man. His lingering activity is obstructing final justice. The swamp obstructed justice from day one.

ObamacareFail said:

Well said. I had little use for him during the primaries. He actually earned my vote at some point during the Trump/Hillary debates, when I became convinced that he had a command of the issues and would follow through on his campaign promises. In the long run it is not about personality. I support what he is getting done and what he is seeking to get done. History will not care about his quirks that trigger the libruls.

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His campaign promises? You mean like how he would repeal the ACA and replace it with healthcare for all in a big beautiful plan? Or the wall Mexico would pay for? Or how he was going to "immediately" terminate DACA?

ObamacareFail said:

So much TDS on the elft.

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It's not just the left that doesn't like Trump. Its the center, its independents, it's the vast majority of the world's population that sees him as nothing more than a clown and a despicable human being. Seriously, you really should get out of the Trump cult bubble. As to TDS, that would be Trump's lunatic twitter feed.

molten_dragon said:

In general the media is awful about this. They spread unproven allegations like they're facts and destroy people's reputations with no recourse. All those people, including President Trump, deserve apologies. Trump is probably less deserving than most given the fact that he's the President and he loves to start fights with the media.

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Who else besides Trump do you think deserves an apology?

And you have called out Trump to apologize to people he falsely accused, right? Like the Central Park Five, whose deaths he actually called for in a full page newspaper ad? Or perhaps Ted Cruz, whose father he falsely accused of killing JFK? Or Joe Scarborough, who he falsely accused of murder? Or Barack Obama, who he falsely accused of being born in Kenya?

Bullseye said:

I blame it on Trump. Seriously. On one of the other forums I was on those of us local to San Diego got to meeting 3-4 times a year and enjoying a pizza, beer, and personal interactions. Both lefties and righties attended and had a good time. I even started seeing one of the lib ladies away from the get togethers and we had a great time for two or three years even though we rarely agreed on politics. The Trump came along and the more and more likely he'd get the nomination the cooler and more distant she got. When he actually one she went stock-raving nuts - insulting me and calling me all kinds of nasty things on the forum. Worse, since we'd been friends she had my email and began to send long-winded, rambling mails about collusion, the Steele dossier and whatever else was the loony left's Trump hard-on of the day.


I'm sure many of the Trump-tackers on DP are genial, friendly, intelligent people, or were. Trump just trips their trigger. Whether it's because he beat their Queen-in-waiting, because he's basically a dick, or something else for some their obsession borders on a diagnosable mental aberration.

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Sounds like she got tired of your little pet names. :lamo

tres borrachos said:

His campaign promises? You mean like how he would repeal the ACA and replace it with healthcare for all in a big beautiful plan? Or the wall Mexico would pay for? Or how he was going to "immediately" terminate DACA?

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Last time I checked, DACA was terminated. It was never legal to begin with. And I am sure you can work out that there are many ways to force Mexico to pay for the wall besides just pushing them to write a big check for it. In the meantime, we have to get it built. As for the ACA.....I think you can work out that the President cannot single handedly repeal that piece of **** legislation. It also has to go through Congress. And the skinny repeal bill would have gone through if not for that spiteful turd, Senator McCain. Trump has certainly not given up on repeal, however he is undoing it piecemeal. The individual mandate has been repealed and a federal judge has ruled the ACA unconstitutional. Tell me, are you still pretending not to be of the left?

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SouthernDemocrat said:

It's not just the left that doesn't like Trump. Its the center, its independents, it's the vast majority of the world's population that sees him as nothing more than a clown and a despicable human being. Seriously, you really should get out of the Trump cult bubble. As to TDS, that would be Trump's lunatic twitter feed.

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You are mostly making it up as you go along. While I dont really give a **** about what the world population thinks about Trump, it is primarily western Europe that dislikes him. But then, they are globalists. And there are some fractures in their globalist movement. Brexit for instance. And you lack the foggiest clue where the center and the Independents stand in regards to Trump. And your suggestion that support for Trump is cultish says more about you. Are you part of that cultish resistance movement?

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ObamacareFail said:

Last time I checked, DACA was terminated. It was never legal to begin with. And I am sure you can work out that there are many ways to force Mexico to pay for the wall besides just pushing them to write a big check for it. In the meantime, we have to get it built. As for the ACA.....I think you can work out that the President cannot single handedly repeal that piece of **** legislation. It also has to go through Congress. And the skinny repeal bill would have gone through if not for that spiteful turd, Senator McCain. Trump has certainly not given up on repeal, however he is undoing it piecemeal. The individual mandate has been repealed and a federal judge has ruled the ACA unconstitutional. Tell me, are you still pretending not to be of the left?

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DACA was terminated last time you checked where? Breitbart? Not only is it alive and well, those DACA recipients are still in the country. The Democrats introduced a bill last month to give them all citizenship, too. House Democrats introduce bill to give citizenship to DACA and TPS recipients

Mexico isn't paying for his wall. But I suspect you knew that too.

Oh, Trump can't "singlehandedly" repeal the ACA? You just realized that now? He sure had you convinced he could. In fact, he promised to do it immediately. He's been in office for 2 years and 2 1/2 months.

I'm not on the left. You're confusing me with Trump and the liberals like you who support him.

By the way, I forgot the most important campaign promise of all. How he was going to "lock her up". That was a good one that you liberals actually believed too.

Trump sure does love the uneducated for a reason.

upsideguy said:

First, show us one example of Trump EVER apologizing for one of his misdeeds. The man is not due an apology simply because he isn't human enough to apologize for his own shortcomings.

Second, the Russian investigation was a righteous investigation. Trump was a fool to surround himself with so many corrupt individuals, many of whom had Russian ties. Trump himself had dubious Russian ties and has behaved toward Russia in a manner that is somewhere between abnormal for an American President to downright abhorrent, as were his actions regarding the investigation as the investigation was on going. Of course that needs to be investigated. It would be gross negligence to ignore it. While its great for Trump and the country that there was no criminal activity attributed to the Trump campaign, he has hardly been absolved a wrong doing (not to mention the other 16 investigations where Trump or the Trump organization is either a subject or target). He is hardly due an apology.

The idea that Trump is due an apology is beyond laughable.

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You are full of it. You were just fine with Obama telling the Russian President:

But in an unscripted moment picked up by camera crews, the American president was more blunt: Let me get reelected first, he said; then I’ll have a better chance of making something happen.

“On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,” Obama can be heard telling Medvedev, apparently referring to incoming Russian president — and outgoing prime minister — Vladi*mir Putin.

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Very bad on Obama. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6eb31c0e2a49

Then you have Hillary's "reset button" that in Russian meant "overload". OK for Hillary for trying.

Oh yeah, and your boy Bernie:

As mayor, Sanders liked to pursue his own foreign policy. In 1985, he lamented that Americans were unfairly and unreasonably hostile to the Soviet Union, telling the Los Angeles Times:

A handful of people in this country are making decisions, whipping up Cold War hysteria, making us hate the Russians. We’re spending billions on military. Why can’t we take some of that money to pay for thousands of U.S. children to go to the Soviet Union?

(In the preceding few years, the Soviet Union had invaded Afghanistan, shot down Korean Air Lines flight 007, and pushed for the institution of martial law in Poland.)

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Having said that, you must be sentient enough to know and expect our leadership and the leaders of campaigns to speak to them. Russia is a geo political foe, and to advise any American to treat them like dirt is asking for a war in Europe we can't win without a nuclear showdown.

If you didn't have a double standard, you wouldn't have any.

wellwisher said:

One of the problems with the obstruction of Justice change, that still looms over Trump, is the legal ambiguity between common sense justice versus bureaucratic protocol.
If you were falsely accused of a crime, that you did not do, common sense justice is about the innocent person being set free and made whole. Justice is not about blindly cooperating with a bureaucratic system this is trying to railroad you. That is not justice. This is injustice. Justice is about the innocent man being set free and wha was right being restored.

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Wrong!

A lot of times, obstruction of justice may be a result of trying to hide unethical behavior which may create political damage.
It was legal for Bill Clinton and Monica to have sex, but still Bill tried to hide it.
Also, Trump did not know if and who among his campaign was compromised, but he knew that if the investigation had revealed that one of his staff was a Russian asset the political damage would be severe.

chuckiechan said:

You are full of it. You were just fine with Obama telling the Russian President:

Very bad on Obama. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6eb31c0e2a49

Then you have Hillary's "reset button" that in Russian meant "overload". OK for Hillary for trying.

Oh yeah, and your boy Bernie:



Having said that, you must be sentient enough to know and expect our leadership and the leaders of campaigns to speak to them. Russia is a geo political foe, and to advise any American to treat them like dirt is asking for a war in Europe we can't win without a nuclear showdown.

If you didn't have a double standard, you wouldn't have any.

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Sorry, but neither of those are even remotely comparable. You apparently do not understand what Obama was saying in that instance. He was merely speaking of political realities, not conspiring. Moreover, the points of Bernie and Hillary were only about general policy to toward Russia. Neither was advocating getting into bed with them nor distancing themselves from our NATO neighbors will cuddling up with Putin. I am sorry you lack the political savvy to really understand the context of those three points and how they are radically different than how you are trying to convey them. But, your point is completely nonsensical and divorced from the realities of Trump's immense entanglement with Russia.

Let me restate: Russia materially interfered in the 2016 election; Trump surrounded himself with corrupt individuals, many of whom had Russian connections; Trump and his people continually and repeatedly lied about their contacts with Russians; Trump failed to renounce Moscow's interference in our election, in a couple of cases choosing Putin's explanation over that of the US intelligence community, and repeatedly attempted to twart and discredit the investigation. The investigation was righteous. It needed to happen.

Let me remind you of the many entanglements of Trump's people with Russia.

All of Donald Trump’s Ties to Russia and Putin, in 7 Charts - POLITICO Magazine

AND:
Donald Trump'''s Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia | Time
Russians interacted with at least 14 Trump associates during campaign, transition – The Denver Post
Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources | Reuters
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/collusion-donald-trump-us-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation-1.4601161
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/29/news/donald-trump-russia-ties/index.html
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article150517907.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-boot-trump-russian-connection-20160725-snap-story.html
http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/29/donald-trump-russia-secret-deutsche-bank-753780.html
https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/01/08/deutsche-bank-global-bank-oligarchs-american-russian-part-1/

Trump owes us all an apology for his actions, particularly personnel decisions, that brought up these questions in the first place forcing this rather exhausting investigation. Trump and Trump alone clearly compromised the integrity of the office of President.

BTW - Your whataboutism's are exceptionally lame, even by DP standards. Of course, using a whataboutism is an admission on your part. You can't refute the original point, so you are left with the tactic of trying to drag others into the mud with you --- we all see through your shallow argument.

chuckiechan said:

You are full of it. You were just fine with Obama telling the Russian President:

Very bad on Obama. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6eb31c0e2a49

Then you have Hillary's "reset button" that in Russian meant "overload". OK for Hillary for trying.

Oh yeah, and your boy Bernie:



Having said that, you must be sentient enough to know and expect our leadership and the leaders of campaigns to speak to them. Russia is a geo political foe, and to advise any American to treat them like dirt is asking for a war in Europe we can't win without a nuclear showdown.

If you didn't have a double standard, you wouldn't have any.

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You are full of it!


You try to criticize the "soft" attitude of a US president in 2012 BEFORE the Russians annexed Crimea and BEFORE they intervened in the the US elections while at the same time you were against hawks like Clinton who did not try to create a more friendly relationship with Russia.

Talking about hypocrisy...

Carleen said:

That has nothing to do with an apology to Trump. The investigation was legitimate.He deserves no apology of the outcome.

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Let's be honest, you were 100% certain Trump colluded with the Russian, you posted up all the propaganda and fake news for over 2 yrs. that Trump was guilty of colluding with the Russians. You lost Trump won. Yes you owe Trump an apology for condemning him without factual proof he did anything wrong with the Russian. Of course your not alone, every lib condemned Trump, without proof, "He's guilty, hang that bastard. Mob Rule

ObamacareFail said:

You are mostly making it up as you go along. While I dont really give a **** about what the world population thinks about Trump, it is primarily western Europe that dislikes him. But then, they are globalists. And there are some fractures in their globalist movement. Brexit for instance. And you lack the foggiest clue where the center and the Independents stand in regards to Trump. And your suggestion that support for Trump is cultish says more about you. Are you part of that cultish resistance movement?

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...tanked-since-november/?utm_term=.e62fb028a27e

He currently has a 33% approval rating among independents.

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump

You really should talk to people outside this country about Trump. It's not just Europeans than think he is a joke and an embarrassment. The Chinese do too. They respected Bush and Obama. Trump they consider a fool that is easily manipulated. Everywhere I have been outside this country since Trump has been elected will tell you they think he is a joke. Then again, that is the view the majority of Americans have of him too.

What do you think the world thinks of Trump when he is showering the dictator of North Korea with praise? What do you think the world thinks of Trump when Trump publicly absolves Kim of torturing to death an American citizen. Trump is a shameful embarrassment to the nation.

tres borrachos said:

DACA was terminated last time you checked where? Breitbart? Not only is it alive and well, those DACA recipients are still in the country.

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It was terminated in 2017. And despite the fact that some of the DACA protections are still ongoing due to dummycrat party judge shopping, DACA is for all practical purposes not alive and well as it is not and never has been law. It was merely one of "Hussein" Obama's unconstitutional executive orders. If it were alive and well, it would be law.

The Democrats introduced a bill last month to give them all citizenship, too. House Democrats introduce bill to give citizenship to DACA and TPS recipients

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And they know full well that even if it were to pass through both houses of congress, Trump would veto it. DACA could at some point become law, however not until we have effective control of our southern borders.

Mexico isn't paying for his wall. But I suspect you knew that too.

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If Trump pushes Mexico on the wall, they will have no choice in the matter. There are many ways the US can extract the cost of the wall that Mexico can do nothing about.

Oh, Trump can't "singlehandedly" repeal the ACA? You just realized that now? He sure had you convinced he could.

Your problem is that when you resort to sarcasm, you end up making things up, in effect lying.. I understand separation of powers, but I am sure you already know that. I was never under the impression that Trump could singlehandedly repeal the ACA. However it was not only Trump that promised to repeal the ACA, the republican House and Senate had already been promising the same for over seven years before the 2016 election. Trump is doing everything in his power to honor his promise, the republican congress lost their nerve when the time came.

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In fact, he promised to do it immediately. He's been in office for 2 years and 2 1/2 months.

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You cannot say that he has not made every effort towards repeal.

I'm not on the left. You're confusing me with Trump and the liberals like you who support him.

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I am sure that you have heard the old saying: "If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck.........it is in fact a duck. I would really like to believe you when you claim you are not a liberal, however I have never seen you take anything but liberal positions on this forum. What I do see is your being in lockstep with the forum's most well known liberals.

By the way, I forgot the most important campaign promise of all. How he was going to "lock her up". That was a good one that you liberals actually believed too.

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It could still happen, though it was not a campaign promise, it was more a campaign slogan. However I really don't care if the hildabeast ever spends a day in prison, however I would like to see her prosecuted for the crimes she has clearly committed.

Trump sure does love the uneducated for a reason.

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The most popular new democrat, AOC has a college education and did not know there were three separate but equal branches of government. Just days ago she claimed that the republicans passed the 22nd amendment in order to prevent FDR from winning another term, apparently not knowing that he was dead two years before the amendment passed. My point is that your elitism is cute, however it does not help your cause.

SouthernDemocrat said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...tanked-since-november/?utm_term=.e62fb028a27e

He currently has a 33% approval rating among independents.

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump

You really should talk to people outside this country about Trump. It's not just Europeans than think he is a joke and an embarrassment. The Chinese do too. They respected Bush and Obama. Trump they consider a fool that is easily manipulated. Everywhere I have been outside this country since Trump has been elected will tell you they think he is a joke. Then again, that is the view the majority of Americans have of him too.

What do you think the world thinks of Trump when he is showering the dictator of North Korea with praise? What do you think the world thinks of Trump when Trump publicly absolves Kim of torturing to death an American citizen. Trump is a shameful embarrassment to the nation.

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Washington Post, huh? Don't waste my time.

ObamacareFail said:

Washington Post, huh? Don't waste my time.

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The second link was the actual numbers from Gallup. You going to deny reality from them as well?