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Apologies to President Trump

The media, social media, and many others should apologize to President Trump

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AlbqOwl

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I won't speculate on whether this piece is a genuine apology from Sharyl Attkisson or it is intended to rebuilt her own reputation as a journalist.

Whichever it is, it is spot on. And it is appreciated.

With the conclusions of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe now known to a significant degree, it seems apologies are in order. . .

. . .We in the media allowed unproven charges and false accusations to dominate the news landscape for more than two years, in a way that was wildly unbalanced and disproportionate to the evidence.

We did a poor job of tracking down leaks of false information. We failed to reasonably weigh the motives of anonymous sources and those claiming to have secret, special evidence of Trump’s “treason.”

As such, we reported a tremendous amount of false information, always to Trump’s detriment.

And when we corrected our mistakes, we often doubled down more than we apologized. We may have been technically wrong on that tiny point, we would acknowledge. But, in the same breath, we would insist that Trump was so obviously guilty of being Russian President Vladimir Putin’s puppet that the technical details hardly mattered.

So, a round of apologies seem in order. . .​​

Apologies to President Trump | TheHill

And those apologies should not be limited to just a dishonest, unethical, incompetent, and/or irresponsible media. They should also come from many talking heads they put on television, many Democrats in the halls of Congress, and a plethora of people who repeated, parroted, and sometimes invented lies to post on social media and message boards.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I won't speculate on whether this piece is a genuine apology from Sharyl Attkisson or it is intended to rebuilt her own reputation as a journalist.

Whichever it is, it is spot on. And it is appreciated.

With the conclusions of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe now known to a significant degree, it seems apologies are in order. . .

. . .We in the media allowed unproven charges and false accusations to dominate the news landscape for more than two years, in a way that was wildly unbalanced and disproportionate to the evidence.

We did a poor job of tracking down leaks of false information. We failed to reasonably weigh the motives of anonymous sources and those claiming to have secret, special evidence of Trump’s “treason.”

As such, we reported a tremendous amount of false information, always to Trump’s detriment.

And when we corrected our mistakes, we often doubled down more than we apologized. We may have been technically wrong on that tiny point, we would acknowledge. But, in the same breath, we would insist that Trump was so obviously guilty of being Russian President Vladimir Putin’s puppet that the technical details hardly mattered.

So, a round of apologies seem in order. . .​​

Apologies to President Trump | TheHill

And those apologies should not be limited to just a dishonest, unethical, incompetent, and/or irresponsible media. They should also come from many talking heads they put on television, many Democrats in the halls of Congress, and a plethora of people who repeated, parroted, and sometimes invented lies to post on social media and message boards.
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Sure, if Trump is finally exonerated of all charges. You make it sound like he was. He was not. Even Fox News has said it.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump – Barr acted as judge and jury. Now Congress needs to do its job | Fox News

The only person who is saying that's what the report concludes is Trump and his boy Barr.

You're jumping the gun. Once he is totally cleared, sure. Apologies will be in order.
 
I don't think they'll ever recover from this hit to their reputation. Not with this generation at least.
 
I remember when we apologized as a nation to Hilldog over that whole email thing.

Felt like closure.
 
ataraxia said:
Sure, if Trump is finally exonerated of all charges. You make it sound like he was. He was not. Even Fox News has said it.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump – Barr acted as judge and jury. Now Congress needs to do its job | Fox News

The only person who is saying that's what the report concludes is Trump and his boy Barr.

You're jumping the gun. Once he is totally cleared, sure. Apologies will be in order.
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He HAS been cleared of Russian collusion by the FBI, by the IG, by Congress, and now by the Mueller investigation. Apologies are warranted immediately.

If Barr's now widely reported summary was in error Mueller would have said something.
 
I agree you should apologize for this absurd thread.
 
Taylor said:
I don't think they'll ever recover from this hit to their reputation. Not with this generation at least.
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I don't know Taylor. The Trump haters and the left who hopes to capitalize on Trump hating haven't cared so far if the media was dishonest, hateful, unethical, incompetent, or irresponsible when it came to any form of Trump bashing, criticism, or what they happily reported as 'expose' regardless of lack of evidence for it. I don't expect either the media or those who eat up the lies to change their stripes any time soon.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I won't speculate on whether this piece is a genuine apology from Sharyl Attkisson or it is intended to rebuilt her own reputation as a journalist.

Whichever it is, it is spot on. And it is appreciated.

With the conclusions of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe now known to a significant degree, it seems apologies are in order. . .

. . .We in the media allowed unproven charges and false accusations to dominate the news landscape for more than two years, in a way that was wildly unbalanced and disproportionate to the evidence.

We did a poor job of tracking down leaks of false information. We failed to reasonably weigh the motives of anonymous sources and those claiming to have secret, special evidence of Trump’s “treason.”

As such, we reported a tremendous amount of false information, always to Trump’s detriment.

And when we corrected our mistakes, we often doubled down more than we apologized. We may have been technically wrong on that tiny point, we would acknowledge. But, in the same breath, we would insist that Trump was so obviously guilty of being Russian President Vladimir Putin’s puppet that the technical details hardly mattered.

So, a round of apologies seem in order. . .​​

Apologies to President Trump | TheHill

And those apologies should not be limited to just a dishonest, unethical, incompetent, and/or irresponsible media. They should also come from many talking heads they put on television, many Democrats in the halls of Congress, and a plethora of people who repeated, parroted, and sometimes invented lies to post on social media and message boards.
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Of course, they should...but most won't. Of the ones who do, I have absolutely no trust in their sincerity.

Trump hating media will continue to do as Trump hating media does...hate Trump.
 
WillyPete said:
I remember when we apologized as a nation to Hilldog over that whole email thing.

Felt like closure.
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Remember when Trump apologized to Obama for being a racist piece of **** birther for years?

I can't remember it for some reason.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I won't speculate on whether this piece is a genuine apology from Sharyl Attkisson or it is intended to rebuilt her own reputation as a journalist.

Whichever it is, it is spot on. And it is appreciated.

With the conclusions of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe now known to a significant degree, it seems apologies are in order. . .

. . .We in the media allowed unproven charges and false accusations to dominate the news landscape for more than two years, in a way that was wildly unbalanced and disproportionate to the evidence.

We did a poor job of tracking down leaks of false information. We failed to reasonably weigh the motives of anonymous sources and those claiming to have secret, special evidence of Trump’s “treason.”

As such, we reported a tremendous amount of false information, always to Trump’s detriment.

And when we corrected our mistakes, we often doubled down more than we apologized. We may have been technically wrong on that tiny point, we would acknowledge. But, in the same breath, we would insist that Trump was so obviously guilty of being Russian President Vladimir Putin’s puppet that the technical details hardly mattered.

So, a round of apologies seem in order. . .​​

Apologies to President Trump | TheHill

And those apologies should not be limited to just a dishonest, unethical, incompetent, and/or irresponsible media. They should also come from many talking heads they put on television, many Democrats in the halls of Congress, and a plethora of people who repeated, parroted, and sometimes invented lies to post on social media and message boards.
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Why? Politics is a rough and tumble full contact sport were there are few if any fouls. Nobody owes anybody an apology. I pulled the lever for Trump, and will again. He's big boy and can take care of himself just fine.
 
Truckstop said:
Remember when Trump apologized to Obama for being a racist piece of **** birther for years?

I can't remember it for some reason.
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Yeah, I think he bought a Superbowl ad for that one.

Had the Beeb sing it to America.

Pretty classy as I recall, but I did a LOT of peyote that year (it was a side bet.)
 
Mycroft said:
Trump has yet to be charged with anything.
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Sure. Not yet. Congress hasn't even started to look into this. Neither has the SDNY. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. It's just getting started.
 
ataraxia said:
Sure. Not yet. Congress hasn't even started to look into this. Neither has the SDNY. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. It's just getting started.
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Look into what?

Oh...I get it...now that the Mueller witch hunt is over, you are looking forward to the Congress witch hunt.

Yeah...that's going to do about as much good as Mueller's did.
 
WillyPete said:
Yeah, I think he bought a Superbowl ad for that one.

Had the Beeb sing it to America.

Pretty classy as I recall, but I did a LOT of peyote that year (it was a side bet.)
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One thing we can count on in these threads is:

--Sooner or later somebody will come up with their own version of Godwin's law by relating the OP to something totally irrelevant to the OP.

--Pretty quickly we will see the straw men, red herrings, whataboutisms, and you/they/he/she did it first thrown into the mix to obfusicate, detract from, obscure, or derail the point of the OP.

--The stand issue slurs, smears, and personal insults will abound.

--What we won't see in a lot of posts is a thoughtful, intellectually honest, intelligent discussion of the OP.
 
Taylor said:
I don't think they'll ever recover from this hit to their reputation. Not with this generation at least.
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One can only hope that those in the 'news' (political propaganda) media would learn and learn some humility.

From what I've seen it's completely lost on them. All they've done is pivot to the next lie, in search of obstruction of justice now.

So, this would be the alleged obstruction of the Mueller probe that just completed on it's own and normal course, is it?

Not going to find anything there either, guys. Sometimes you just have to let people who are bound and determined to destroy themselves, to destroy themselves.
 
I think they should all be like Trump.

He never apologizes to anyone.
 
I would also like to here an apology from members on this forum. I will offer you a "like" if you post your apology to the President and to the other members of this forum who did not participate in this hoax.
We need to stop the Trump bashing now!

Thank you!
 
AlbqOwl said:
He HAS been cleared of Russian collusion by the FBI, by the IG, by Congress, and now by the Mueller investigation. Apologies are warranted immediately.

If Barr's now widely reported summary was in error Mueller would have said something.
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No he has not.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Why? Politics is a rough and tumble full contact sport were there are few if any fouls. Nobody owes anybody an apology. I pulled the lever for Trump, and will again. He's big boy and can take care of himself just fine.
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Politics is in fact a rough and tumble contact sport.
Why is the 'news' media participating in politics, as opposed to being a reporter of politics?
Lying to the electorate, the general population, being a political activist rather than a reporter of politics, isn't part of the 'rough and tumble contact sport' of politics, and violates a number of journalistic principals and standards.
 
AlbqOwl said:
One thing we can count on in these threads is:

--Sooner or later somebody will come up with their own version of Godwin's law by relating the OP to something totally irrelevant to the OP.

--Pretty quickly we will see the straw men, red herrings, whataboutisms, and you/they/he/she did it first thrown into the mix to obfusicate, detract from, obscure, or derail the point of the OP.

--The stand issue slurs, smears, and personal insults will abound.

--What we won't see in a lot of posts is a thoughtful, intellectually honest, intelligent discussion of the OP.
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Don't forget the "Trump is a liar and deserves everything that happens to him."
 
ataraxia said:
Sure. Not yet. Congress hasn't even started to look into this. Neither has the SDNY. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. It's just getting started.
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Meh. The activist left, which includes the so called 'news' media, as been saying this for over 2+ years now.
I'm inclined to no believe them, nor what the SDNY claims, until there's a jury verdict read.
 
AlbqOwl said:
One thing we can count on in these threads is:

--Sooner or later somebody will come up with their own version of Godwin's law by relating the OP to something totally irrelevant to the OP.

--Pretty quickly we will see the straw men, red herrings, whataboutisms, and you/they/he/she did it first thrown into the mix to obfusicate, detract from, obscure, or derail the point of the OP.

--The stand issue slurs, smears, and personal insults will abound.

--What we won't see in a lot of posts is a thoughtful, intellectually honest, intelligent discussion of the OP.
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Help me understand, then.

Many lied and smeared Hillary right through election night behaving as though every accusation was 100% unquestionably true. Many still behave that way today.

It's not inconceivable it made the difference in her 2016 loss.

I saw no outcry for apologies then. Why does Trump deserve one now?
 
Mycroft said:
Of course, they should...but most won't. Of the ones who do, I have absolutely no trust in their sincerity.

Trump hating media will continue to do as Trump hating media does...hate Trump.
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Alas I fear you are right. But I keep hoping some spark of intellectual honesty will start kicking in and some of the haters will become weary of trying to intellectually defend the dishonest stuff they spew when they know they can't support it in any way other than dishonestly.
 
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