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It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD

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It'''s official: Russiagate is this generation'''s WMD

"Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller’s final report might leave audiences “disappointed,” as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.

Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you’d have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants."

Matthew Taibbi nails it. The amount of "hope" that the press built in Democrat and Anti-Trump groups that the US President was a Russian spy is simply disgusting. Every single lead from unnamed officials assuring that Mueller would be indicting Trump were lies, every assurance that there was ample evidence to prove it was a lie specifically intended to sew distrust in US election system, the President, and the system as a whole.

In other words, it all favored Putin's ultimate goal of sewing distrust, and the new media obliged with great gusto.

In the end, Trump's position has been more than vindicated..

Fake news? You bet. Every single story about Trump's "collusion" was based on lies.

Media acting against the best interest of the country? Absolutely. They fed hysteria and division on a lie.

Deep state? Yes. Go back and look at the assurances that Federal officials (named and anonymous) gave the press that in the end Trump would be in jail... and baseless lies.

For those who cheered on Mueller as a the savior from a Russian plot... hey, you were right, but you had the wrong target.
 
jmotivator said:
It'''s official: Russiagate is this generation'''s WMD

"Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller’s final report might leave audiences “disappointed,” as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.

Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you’d have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants."

Matthew Taibbi nails it. The amount of "hope" that the press built in Democrat and Anti-Trump groups that the US President was a Russian spy is simply disgusting. Every single lead from unnamed officials assuring that Mueller would be indicting Trump were lies, every assurance that there was ample evidence to prove it was a lie specifically intended to sew distrust in US election system, the President, and the system as a whole.

In other words, it all favored Putin's ultimate goal of sewing distrust, and the new media obliged with great gusto.

In the end, Trump's position has been more than vindicated..

Fake news? You bet. Every single story about Trump's "collusion" was based on lies.

Media acting against the best interest of the country? Absolutely. They fed hysteria and division on a lie.

Deep state? Yes. Go back and look at the assurances that Federal officials (named and anonymous) gave the press that in the end Trump would be in jail... and baseless lies.

For those who cheered on Mueller as a the savior from a Russian plot... hey, you were right, but you had the wrong target.
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You are aware Saddam actually had—-and used repeatedly—-WMDs.....right?
 
EnigmaO01 said:
After the weapons inspectors?
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There he was “just” deceptive as hell.

Which doesn’t change the fact that he did have WMDs.

And therefore trying use that as an analogy to defend Trump sends the exact opposite message of what the OP wants
 
jmotivator said:
It'''s official: Russiagate is this generation'''s WMD

"Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller’s final report might leave audiences “disappointed,” as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.

Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you’d have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants."

Matthew Taibbi nails it. The amount of "hope" that the press built in Democrat and Anti-Trump groups that the US President was a Russian spy is simply disgusting. Every single lead from unnamed officials assuring that Mueller would be indicting Trump were lies, every assurance that there was ample evidence to prove it was a lie specifically intended to sew distrust in US election system, the President, and the system as a whole.

In other words, it all favored Putin's ultimate goal of sewing distrust, and the new media obliged with great gusto.

In the end, Trump's position has been more than vindicated..

Fake news? You bet. Every single story about Trump's "collusion" was based on lies.

Media acting against the best interest of the country? Absolutely. They fed hysteria and division on a lie.

Deep state? Yes. Go back and look at the assurances that Federal officials (named and anonymous) gave the press that in the end Trump would be in jail... and baseless lies.

For those who cheered on Mueller as a the savior from a Russian plot... hey, you were right, but you had the wrong target.
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I hear the report will have some damning things in it.

Like: videotape of Trump saying he fired the FBI director because of the Russia probe.

Like: videotape of Trump directly addressing Russia and asking them to hack his opponents emails.

Like: emails that show his son set up a meeting in Trump Tower with a bunch of Russians discussing removing sanctions, and THEN, the President serially lying about the meeting, dismissing it as something about ‘adoptions’.

Also, evidence that that meeting was about ‘dirt on Hillary’ and his son on the campaign said ‘I love it’.

This is just speculation, of course.
 
jmotivator said:
It'''s official: Russiagate is this generation'''s WMD

"Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller’s final report might leave audiences “disappointed,” as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.

Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you’d have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants."

Matthew Taibbi nails it. The amount of "hope" that the press built in Democrat and Anti-Trump groups that the US President was a Russian spy is simply disgusting. Every single lead from unnamed officials assuring that Mueller would be indicting Trump were lies, every assurance that there was ample evidence to prove it was a lie specifically intended to sew distrust in US election system, the President, and the system as a whole.

In other words, it all favored Putin's ultimate goal of sewing distrust, and the new media obliged with great gusto.

In the end, Trump's position has been more than vindicated..

Fake news? You bet. Every single story about Trump's "collusion" was based on lies.

Media acting against the best interest of the country? Absolutely. They fed hysteria and division on a lie.

Deep state? Yes. Go back and look at the assurances that Federal officials (named and anonymous) gave the press that in the end Trump would be in jail... and baseless lies.

For those who cheered on Mueller as a the savior from a Russian plot... hey, you were right, but you had the wrong target.
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"For more than two years, we have been inundated with a non-stop flood of lies, libel, and slander regarding alleged “collusion” between President Donald Trump and Russia.

The so-called Trump-Russia “collusion” amounts to one of the most egregious media hoaxes of all time...."


For instance, Malcolm Nance, author of The Plot to Hack America, frequently appears as a contributor on the socialist news network MSNBC.

He attempts to hide his painfully obvious activism behind his military and intelligence career. Yet, his conclusions are about as credible as MSNBC’s usual drivel.

An example of Nance’s unbridled bias and blatantly Marxist worldview is found in the foreword of his..."

READ ON:

Manipulation, NOT Collusion | The American Citadel
 
This gets my vote for dumbest thread of the day. Good news for the OP is that it is still early!
 
I don't think it's a dumb thread.
 
nota bene said:
I don't think it's a dumb thread.
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I do.

The supposed WMD "intelligence" led to the invasion of another country, the loss of thousands of lives, and trillions of lost money on wasteful war.

To compare this investigation to that is simply downright stupid.
 
Airyaman said:
I do.

The supposed WMD "intelligence" led to the invasion of another country, the loss of thousands of lives, and trillions of lost money on wasteful war.

To compare this investigation to that is simply downright stupid.
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It's a good thing the story doesn't make that comparison, then. It's entirely about the media.
 
jmotivator said:
It'''s official: Russiagate is this generation'''s WMD

"Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller’s final report might leave audiences “disappointed,” as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.

Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you’d have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants."

Matthew Taibbi nails it. The amount of "hope" that the press built in Democrat and Anti-Trump groups that the US President was a Russian spy is simply disgusting. Every single lead from unnamed officials assuring that Mueller would be indicting Trump were lies, every assurance that there was ample evidence to prove it was a lie specifically intended to sew distrust in US election system, the President, and the system as a whole.

In other words, it all favored Putin's ultimate goal of sewing distrust, and the new media obliged with great gusto.

In the end, Trump's position has been more than vindicated..

Fake news? You bet. Every single story about Trump's "collusion" was based on lies.

Media acting against the best interest of the country? Absolutely. They fed hysteria and division on a lie.

Deep state? Yes. Go back and look at the assurances that Federal officials (named and anonymous) gave the press that in the end Trump would be in jail... and baseless lies.

For those who cheered on Mueller as a the savior from a Russian plot... hey, you were right, but you had the wrong target.
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I usually like Taibbi, but he seems to think I, and everyone else, believed Trump was going to jail for something. That's just nuts.

If Taibbi or anyone else gets a copy of Mueller's report, let me know. I'd be interested in knowing what he found. Trump's "no COLLUSION!" nonsense was always just Trump setting an impossibly high bar. I still want to know what leverage Russia might have over Trump. Let's see the records of his business dealings.
 
Harshaw said:
It's a good thing the story doesn't make that comparison, then. It's entirely about the media.
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Then perhaps they should have looked for a better headline than "It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD", no?
 
Airyaman said:
Then perhaps they should have looked for a better headline than "It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD", no?
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Maybe, but that's not what the story is about. It's about expectations built by the media. You should probably read past the headline.
 
Harshaw said:
Maybe, but that's not what the story is about. It's about expectations built by the media. You should probably read past the headline.
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I did after you prompted me to. And I get what the author is saying, but the headline is what is supposed to grab your attention with any piece. It is an awful headline, and makes the rest of the story less likely to be viewed in a serious manner.
 
I guess by "official", you mean "unofficial". Fake news eh?

So instead of the White House knowingly lying about a cause to invade a nation and kill people....

...a series of legitimate FBI investigations, through actions of POTUS necessitating the hiring of a SC to take them over, resulting in the indictment of 37 people including half a dozen Trump campaign members.

As similar as night and day. Nice work jmotivator, you're really juicing your brain to crank out this sort of high-brow analysis!
 
Threegoofs said:
I hear the report will have some damning things in it.

Like: videotape of Trump saying he fired the FBI director because of the Russia probe.
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When you know that you aren't a Russian spy, you may take umbrage with an FBI director that is lying to you, and whose agency is leaking tat you might be a Russian spy.

Like: videotape of Trump directly addressing Russia and asking them to hack his opponents emails.
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A joke that all but the boniest of boneheads were able to understand.

Like: emails that show his son set up a meeting in Trump Tower with a bunch of Russians discussing removing sanctions, and THEN, the President serially lying about the meeting, dismissing it as something about ‘adoptions’.

Also, evidence that that meeting was about ‘dirt on Hillary’ and his son on the campaign said ‘I love it’.
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You mean oppo research like the stuff the FBI was using from the Clinton camp to acquire FISA warrants on Trump? ... only different than Hillary since that meeting didn't go anywhere, and no money was exchanged? If that meeting was ACTUALLY sufficient reason for an FBI investigation into Trump then the Dossier would be clear justification for the FBI to investigate Hillary, rather than just use the oppo research against Trump.
 
Airyaman said:
This gets my vote for dumbest thread of the day. Good news for the OP is that it is still early!
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You should probably read the article and it's extensive citations and references.

Dismissing without reading will always win dumbest post of the day.
 
Harshaw said:
It's a good thing the story doesn't make that comparison, then. It's entirely about the media.
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In fact, it is entirely about the media's bad habit of offloading it's journalistic integrity on to government officials who have their own agenda.

Airyaman would know this had he read it
 
Mach said:
I guess by "official", you mean "unofficial". Fake news eh?

So instead of the White House knowingly lying about a cause to invade a nation and kill people....

...a series of legitimate FBI investigations, through actions of POTUS necessitating the hiring of a SC to take them over, resulting in the indictment of 37 people including half a dozen Trump campaign members.

As similar as night and day. Nice work jmotivator, you're really juicing your brain to crank out this sort of high-brow analysis!
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Maybe you should read the article rather than ignorantly try to create the article's argument from the headline. :roll:
 
Airyaman said:
Then perhaps they should have looked for a better headline than "It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD", no?
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Maybe you should do more than read headlines, no?
 
<alt>doxygen said:
I usually like Taibbi, but he seems to think I, and everyone else, believed Trump was going to jail for something. That's just nuts.
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Well, no, he doesn't. You should read the article and then comment on the article.

If Taibbi or anyone else gets a copy of Mueller's report, let me know. I'd be interested in knowing what he found. Trump's "no COLLUSION!" nonsense was always just Trump setting an impossibly high bar. I still want to know what leverage Russia might have over Trump. Let's see the records of his business dealings.
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Read the article. This is in part about the lack of further indictments and how that makes two years of speculative journalism look.
 
jmotivator said:
You should probably read the article and it's extensive citations and references.

Dismissing without reading will always win dumbest post of the day.
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What is the headline?

When you start with the idea of comparing this investigation, in any form or fashion with WMD's of Iraq, without even knowing what is in the final report particularly, you have started off on the wrong foot, and nothing else should be taken seriously after those two grave errors.
 
jmotivator said:
Well, no, he doesn't. You should read the article and then comment on the article.



Read the article. This is in part about the lack of further indictments and how that makes two years of speculative journalism look.
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Can a sitting president be indicted?

Taibbi is writing about a report he hasn't seen. I don't really like speculative stuff. If this is all a complete nothingburger, Barr will release the whole report and we'll know that. Everyone but Barr, Mueller & crew is speculating - still.
 
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