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Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get Him"

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rocket88 said:
So bias one way is acceptable? Personally, I think bias both ways is acceptable and is the way it has always been in this country. You're sore that there are people in this country who don't worship your God-Emperor.

The topic of the forum is media bias. The topic of the thread is a bunch of people in the media are mean to Trump. If you can't read or think. not my problem.
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Blah, blah, blah...lots of spittle and little substance.
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

Fishking said:
Blah, blah, blah...lots of spittle and little substance.
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I know how you feel. I read your posts.
 
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trixare4kids said:
He was talking about journalists who spew the same kind of biased nonsense instead of reporting facts, so yeah. ;)
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Bias has always existed and always will. This idea that they used to just report facts is the same rose colored view of the past that conservatives seem to have.
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

lurchadams said:
trump used the press to his advantage for years. Now it's working against him - Boo ****ing hoo.

Perhaps if trump wasn't always acting like a heathen, he'd get better coverage?
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That's not why Trump does not get better coverage.
He's not one of them, my friend, and that is why he is maligned and despised, and the latter emotion comes across clearly in the 90% leftist MSM's blatherings.
Koppel is a liberal, but he is not wrong about this.
 
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rocket88 said:
I know how you feel. I read your posts.
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The 'ol "I know you are but what am I?" trick...so much winning.
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

rocket88 said:
Bias has always existed and always will. This idea that they used to just report facts is the same rose colored view of the past that conservatives seem to have.
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Show where you ever got the idea that journalists are supposed to be biased?

I'll wait.
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

trixare4kids said:
Show where you ever got the idea that journalists are supposed to be biased?

I'll wait.
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What does the first sentence mean? MSM is never supposed to be biased or lie but that is what western msm does with alarming regularity. But they like to reflect their audience.
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

trixare4kids said:
Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get Him"



Ted Koppel nailed this and I don't think he's particularly a Trump fan either, but he is a journalist with a whole lot of integrity.

The Trump resistance isn't going to like reading the above.
Trump's been around long enough to know the difference between journalism and biased commentary so when he sees smack on the front page of the Times, he's gonna's call it what it is. Open up google news for instance on almost any given day, and take a look at the headlines coming from the establishment press. That's not journalism! It's propaganda coming from biased leftists doing their best to keep pedaling crap to hurt Trump's reelection chances.
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The US MSM doesn't know journalism. And Ted Koppel, an avid, long time supporter of war criminals and war crimes is no different than the Fox folks, he is only sneakier and he makes a grand pretense of being measured and honest.

“It is not enough for journalists to see themselves as mere messengers without understanding the hidden agendas of the message and the myths that surround it.” -- John Pilger
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

Carjosse said:
Because Fox News praised Obama all the time and never ever criticized him for ridiculous reasons and continues to do so with many Democrats. The right wing and Trump himself also a problem with seeing any criticism of Trump meaning that a news organization is "out to get him".
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Interesting point! Where was the rest of the press, other than fox news, to hold obama's feat to the fire? Why is it that it was ONLY fox news that gave Obama the trump treatment? Where were all these other news organizations?
 
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trixare4kids said:
The Trump resistance isn't going to like reading the above.
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Koppel was put-off by how the press reported Trump's "***** grabbing" recorded comments, and yet he fails to criticize such lewd comments by Trump.

Koppel should stick to writing books about massive power grid failures. That book was excellent.
 
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The Democratic Party doesn't care what an old white male Democrat has to say. They want to know what 16 year old transgendered male-to-female illegal migrant Latinos have to say about what they should do.
 
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Vidi said:
That’s not what I’m seeing

Trump’s cuts to Medicaid, Social Security, and Medicare, explained - Vox

Do you have a better source that explains how it’s not actual cuts?
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I can find a better source that Vox on the stall walls at the corner 7-11. :cool

From your link:

Their intentions are to cut benefits under Medicaid and Social Security. The impact on Medicare is more complicated, which I’ll get into a bit later.
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which is what I said.
 
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Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

trixare4kids said:
That's not why Trump does not get better coverage.
He's not one of them, my friend, and that is why he is maligned and despised, and the latter emotion comes across clearly in the 90% leftist MSM's blatherings.
Koppel is a liberal, but he is not wrong about this.
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I strongly disagree, m'lady. trump is an immature, raving maniac. When he behaves like one, the press reports it. Those who are non-partisan shrug their shoulders and just say to themselves, "yep just another day with trump".

To those who blindly support trump, they are driven insane by the coverage they deem as "unfair".

I've been watching it for almost 3 years.
 
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lurchadams said:
I strongly disagree, m'lady. trump is an immature, raving maniac. When he behaves like one, the press reports it. Those who are non-partisan shrug their shoulders and just say to themselves, "yep just another day with trump".

To those who blindly support trump, they are driven insane by the coverage they deem as "unfair".

I've been watching it for almost 3 years.
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LOL, you've been watching a masterfully composed and presented production intended to make you think exactly that. 90% of the "journalists" in this country are worthless shills for the Democratic party and loony left dogma. Granted Trump is no paragon of decorum and restraint but he wasn't elected to fill the Hollywood role of a President; he was elected because mainline Democrats and Republicans[/B] weren't doing the job these were elected to do. And that is to provide a place were ordinary Americans can live they lives as they wish; peacefully, securely and they can rise to the highest levels of prosperity and quality of life their skills, initiative and perserverence can take them.
 
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trixare4kids said:
I didn't know either. I always loved him.
Look back and try and remember when you first saw a major news anchor let his bias to show.
I'm thinking it was Dan Rather.
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That I'm not aware, because he always seemed fair to me. I thought Nightline was a great show, and always watched it right after the 10 O'Clock news ...
 
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Chomsky said:
That I'm not aware, because he always seemed fair to me. I thought Nightline was a great show, and always watched it right after the 10 O'Clock news ...
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I always liked him too but back then I was a Democrat so there's also that. I probably didn't recognize the bias at the time.

However, he took fire for presenting unauthenticated documents in a news report on President George W. Bush's Vietnam-era service in the National Guard.

His career has been tarnished with lots of claims of bias.
Dan Rather - Wikipedia
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

trixare4kids said:
I always liked him too but back then I was a Democrat so there's also that. I probably didn't recognize the bias at the time.

However, he took fire for presenting unauthenticated documents in a news report on President George W. Bush's Vietnam-era service in the National Guard.

His career has been tarnished with lots of claims of bias.
Dan Rather - Wikipedia
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The bolded is a good point, and crossed my mind as I was penning my response to you. Back then, I might not have had the frame of reference to spot liberal bias.

Another guy I liked, though not always in news per-se, was Charlie Rose. In his talk show guise, he may have been the best I've seen. He was always very well prepared, with excellent but thoughtful questions, and he knew how to draw deep and poignant responses from his guests. He also knew when to let them speak, and stayed out of their way when they were doing so.

Though having different mannerisms, Bruce DuMont was also very well prepared even if his guests tended to be more narrowly contained to politics. After the end of a particularly fruitful interview with Henry Kissinger during Kissinger's prime, Kissinger was taken back by DuMont, and commented as to how "very good" he was. That was high prise indeed, from the always dead-pan and dour Kissinger.
 
Re: Ted Koppel: "Establishment Press" Decided That Trump Is Bad For The United States, "Out To Get H

That the politically driven, politically biased political propaganda media has been 'out to get Trump' is not news to anyone who's conscious and been paying the least bit of attention.
 
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