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CNN abruptly cuts off a muslim doctor who says this about Trump

Objective Voice said:
A little perspective...

Does the Muslim individual stipulate which sect of the Muslim faith he practices/affiliates? I haven't seen the segment but it seems to me he's Sunni Muslim. As such, it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that certain parts of the Muslim world would be thrilled that GW Bush started a war in Iraq that ultimately led to civil strife putting Sunni Muslims against Shia Muslims since it was Shia Muslims who were in power during Saddam's reign.
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If the host hadn't shut her down and actually explored the comments maybe we would know.
Objective Voice said:
(BTW, you might want to fix your link in the OP. It doesn't go the correct article.)

EDITS:

1. Correct link to OP video can be found in post #5 (for those interested).
2. After watching the video segment, CNN didn't abruptly cut off the female interviewer. She was allowed to finish her statement and then concluded the interview in the normal interview process.
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The guest makes an interesting statement and the only thing the host does is "Ok, by now"? That's pretty damn abrupt in my view. No follow up questions, no clarifications?
 
Bullseye said:
Brings on guests with opposing views and then cuts off the discussion (abruptly).


HTF did white supremacy get into the discussion? Isn't there already at least one thread elsewhere?
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It's already been shown (with the actual video) that the guest was not cut off abruptly.

Looks like you need to familiarize with with your thread. You brought the topic of white supremacy when you decided to make this Dr's coments a topic.

From the interview:

WHITFIELD: The accused shooter made reference to President Trump and he appears to be motivated by white supremacy. The president says he doesn't see white nationalism as a threat. He was asked about it whether it was on the rise. He said not necessarily. So during his veto signing this is when the question came about and this is how the president handled hit.

(BEGIN VIDEO)

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're on track for a million illegal aliens to rush our borders. People hate the word invasion, but that's what it is. It is an invasion of drugs and criminals and people. (END VIDEO)

WHITFIELD: This was the language -- that is a better example of the language that the president used when he was justifying the veto for the national emergency. What concerns you about the way in which the president handled the question of whether nationalism -- white nationalism was on the rise and you who he handled the justification for the national emergency, his word choice.

AHMED: So I think first of all the word choice is poor. Second of all I think the timing is much worse. I did see his very categorical condemnation of the events in New Zealand and that was gratifying. And I also feel that he needs to do the same about white supremacy, not only the United States, but globally. There is nothing -- the president has no responsibility if a fanatic mentions him in a manifesto. A fanatic could equally mention me. So I don't think that is his responsibility. But, yes, I would like to see President Trump condemn all forms of lethal bigotry.
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SkyFox76 said:
It's already been shown (with the actual video) that the guest was not cut off abruptly.

Looks like you need to familiarize with with your thread. You brought the topic of white supremacy when you decided to make this Dr's coments a topic.

From the interview:
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I think you need to look at the link I posted - the stuff you quote above doesn't appear in it.
 
Cardinal said:
The central claim to the story was quite obviously made up. Do you deny that?
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Disagree, the central claim is "it is FALLACY to claim the #Trump administration is '#Islamophobic'".
 
hanger4 said:
Disagree, the central claim is "it is FALLACY to claim the #Trump administration is '#Islamophobic'".
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Headline: "CNN abruptly cuts off a muslim doctor who says this about Trump."

True or false?
 
Bullseye said:
I think you need to look at the link I posted - the stuff you quote above doesn't appear in it.
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No it doesn't, because what you linked to isn't the full story, it is about 1/10th of the entire interview between the Dr and Whitfield. They had a much longer discussion and since you changed your goal of suggesting CNN cut her off, and wanted people to discuss what the Dr said, then the entire interview is open to discussion. You have no idea if what she said is true or not, but what is true, is she stated that she feels the president needs to condemn white supremacy globally. And I agree.
 
SkyFox76 said:
No it doesn't, because what you linked to isn't the full story, it is about 1/10th of the entire interview between the Dr and Whitfield. They had a much longer discussion and since you changed your goal of suggesting CNN cut her off, and wanted people to discuss what the Dr said, then the entire interview is open to discussion. You have no idea if what she said is true or not, but what is true, is she stated that she feels the president needs to condemn white supremacy globally. And I agree.
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How much of that "long discussion" had to do with Trump's image in the Muslim world?
 
hanger4 said:
Obviously all was not "fake".
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You're right... Dr. Ahmed put an end to the nonsense the anti-Trumpers spout about our president when it comes to Islamophobia.

Qanta Ahmed said, it is FALLACY to claim the #Trump administration is '#Islamophobic' - On the anniversary of #Halabja and #Anfaal #genocide perpetrated by #SaddamHussein & Iraqi Arab government on Iraqi #Kurds claiming 180,000 lives only ended because of a #Republican @POTUS
 
Bullseye said:
Avoiding the question, eh?
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Look, this is pretty simple, I don't spoon feed people who create a thread and then have 1/10th of the information.

You grabbed a story you felt was a gotcha on CNN which it wasn't. Had you actually watched the full interview (when it was live) or bother to read the transcript (instead of using a very edited version from Townhall, or whoever) then you would have seen this Dr and Whitfield discussed a few things. The end being what is seen in the edited video. The Dr was thanked, and Whitfield went on to give a short teaser for what was next and they went to a commercial.

We can discuss the Dr's interview or not, your choice. :peace
 
SkyFox76 said:
Look, this is pretty simple, I don't spoon feed people who create a thread and then have 1/10th of the information.

You grabbed a story you felt was a gotcha on CNN which it wasn't. Had you actually watched the full interview (when it was live) or bother to read the transcript (instead of using a very edited version from Townhall, or whoever) then you would have seen this Dr and Whitfield discussed a few things. The end being what is seen in the edited video. The Dr was thanked, and Whitfield went on to give a short teaser for what was next and they went to a commercial.

We can discuss the Dr's interview or not, your choice. :peace
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So they talked in depth on other subjects, fine. Did they do the same on Trump's standing in the Muslim world? nope. QED.
 
Bullseye said:
So they talked in depth on other subjects, fine. Did they do the same on Trump's standing in the Muslim world? nope. QED.
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Damn near every time I watch cable news I hear a host apologizing and having to actually cut off a person talking because that's how TV time works. Programs have scheduling where people get so many minutes. She had her allotted time like the rest of the guests. What's most obvious is, if CNN wasn't up to hearing this Dr go on again about Trump, you know what? They could have grabbed someone else.

Byeee :2wave:
 
Well this thread is pretty much about an imagined event that turned into "but the real issue is not all Muslims hate Trump", as if anyone thought that every single Muslim on the planet didn't like the guy. I highly doubt most of those in the US, or even many other countries, respect him very much.

As a side, I can't seem to stop staring at her glasses/eyebrows in that video. They look very weird.
 
Fishking said:
Generally when there is a longer quote it's easy to find the source. Took about 20 seconds and *shock* I got the transcripts from CNN themselves, but I'm sure they are just a "right-wing rag" eh, RV? What clown shoes these types of posts are (not Tres, she just pointed out wrong link so I'm giving that as well).

CNN.com - Transcripts



I got it.
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I already saw the clip, and it proved one thing. The subject line of this thread was a lie, which is what right wing rags do.
 
trixare4kids said:
You're right... Dr. Ahmed put an end to the nonsense the anti-Trumpers spout about our president when it comes to Islamophobia.

Qanta Ahmed said, it is FALLACY to claim the #Trump administration is '#Islamophobic' - On the anniversary of #Halabja and #Anfaal #genocide perpetrated by #SaddamHussein & Iraqi Arab government on Iraqi #Kurds claiming 180,000 lives only ended because of a #Republican @POTUS
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Come on, Trix. It's the opinion of one person, with no data to back it up. I have no idea how Muslims feel about Trump. Nor do you. Nor does she for that matter. We know how she feels. Her words in no way put an end to anything.

I respect her opinion, but she needs to provide evidence to back it up. And no, one woman won't stop people, including me, from pointing out Trump's word problem when it comes to Muslims. Trump even lied about Muslims being part of the caravan the right was tinkling its collective panties about right before the election.

The right screamed constantly about Obama's very few words criticizing law enforcement, making the claim that his words - very few of them - caused the deaths of policemen. Yet those same people are pretending Trump's many words about Muslims hasn't resulted in any bad actions? Is that hypocrisy, or just raw dishonesty? Or a cult like behavior?
 
tres borrachos said:
You link is to an article that discusses this:



Opinion: Washington Secrets

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Hysterical! of course, typical right wing dishonesty, this is all too common. I guess they think others are a dumb and dishonest and lazy and won't actually check the source.

And another dishonest nosnense done by right wingers all the time, they can find one person who has an opinion they want to hear, and ignore the 99% of all the other facts and people that say otherwise. God they are such dumb scumbags
 
Famous quotes from the FOX News past:

Sean Hannity: "Cut his mike".
 
tres borrachos said:
Come on, Trix. It's the opinion of one person, with no data to back it up. I have no idea how Muslims feel about Trump. Nor do you. Nor does she for that matter. We know how she feels. Her words in no way put an end to anything.

I respect her opinion, but she needs to provide evidence to back it up. And no, one woman won't stop people, including me, from pointing out Trump's word problem when it comes to Muslims. Trump even lied about Muslims being part of the caravan the right was tinkling its collective panties about right before the election.

The right screamed constantly about Obama's very few words criticizing law enforcement, making the claim that his words - very few of them - caused the deaths of policemen. Yet those same people are pretending Trump's many words about Muslims hasn't resulted in any bad actions? Is that hypocrisy, or just raw dishonesty? Or a cult like behavior?
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She is the topic of thread, hence I am reiterating her point. Instead of making it about the poster, I'm making a point about her message.
That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
trixare4kids said:
You're right... Dr. Ahmed put an end to the nonsense the anti-Trumpers spout about our president when it comes to Islamophobia.

Qanta Ahmed said, it is FALLACY to claim the #Trump administration is '#Islamophobic' - On the anniversary of #Halabja and #Anfaal #genocide perpetrated by #SaddamHussein & Iraqi Arab government on Iraqi #Kurds claiming 180,000 lives only ended because of a #Republican @POTUS
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Something that bothers me about both the left and right is when they cherry pick a person who goes against their own grade and people grab onto it as though it speaks for everyone. It's like grabbing a black persons comments who may disagree with blm. Or an NFL player that found kneeling in poor form.

This Dr made her opinion known on what she sees with regards to Muslims in relation to the president. It doesn't put an end to anything unless she's got facts to prove her statement.

It would take all of 10 seconds to find another Muslim who lives within the same surroundings that would say many Muslims do feel Mr Trump does view them negatively.

Until she's got a majority of Muslims speaking up saying she's right? She voiced her opinion.

And she voiced her opinion on the poor choice of words the president used (in the clip) which I'd guess others probably agree. I doubt very much it will make the president change his words if he even knows she mentioned it.

It seems obvious (by her own words) that she doesn't feel he's doing enough to denounce hate groups and on that point I am in agreement. I watched that whole Charlottesville fiasco and even being the strong supporter of the president that I was at the time? I was very disheartend that he couldn't stand in front of this nation and make a strong statement rather than the wishy washy "good people on both sides" claim.

The beginning of the end for me.
 
trixare4kids said:
She is the topic of thread, hence I am reiterating her point. Instead of making it about the poster, I'm making a point about her message.
That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Actually the topic of the thread was the lie made by the OP. It's about CNN, which is why it's in the Bias in the Media section.
 
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