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State of the Media Report

chuckiechan said:
I see the “educated” as living in the echo chamber, and more concerned with career, kids, soccer, and divorces that ferreting out the truth from the noise.
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I see "educated" as a buzz word for "suitably brainwashed and indoctrinated". Been that way for decades. Academia is a haven for unrepentant hippies from the sixties who still chant "power to the people, right on" in the shower. They've bred follow-on generations and filled their heads with the same mush they themselves gobbled up in the 60's.
 
Chomsky said:
Except for academ ia or research, I think affluence is the more common determinant in the possibility of one being out-of-touch. Especially for those living off trust funds, or the proceeds of a family business established before their time.

However since education is highly correlated with income, I could see there possibly being some cross-correlation with being out-of-touch, that could flow from the additional income that often comes from being educated.
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I have a little different perspective, so many of the college grads have "0" street smarts, common sense. You can come out of Harvard as dumb as a rock. But in your chosen field of education you can be a superstar. When a grad has common sense and his/her education, now you got something. Take a welder who knows his field at the top of his profession and has common sense, you got something. Looking at the blue and the grey columns the more educated you are the more confidence you have in the media. I believe it's well known that most all grads are liberal, and of course as they get more educated by the liberal professors the more liberal they get would believe anything the liberal press pumps out. When you add the blue and gray columns together for the collage grads you tower over the orange column.
 
Kal'Stang said:
It was an online poll. Those are not the most reliable.
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It was conducted by Reuters/IPSOS according to the article:

This poll was conducted online by Reuters/Ipsos from December 7 to December 20 throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 4,214 adults, including 1,657 people who identified as Democrats and 1,505 who identified as Republicans. It has a “credibility interval,” a measure of the poll’s precision, of about 2 percentage points. Credibility interval = +/- 2% for total, +/- 3% for Democrats and Republicans, +/- 5% for Blacks and Hispanics.
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I'd say the accuracy numbers are quite good.
 
Bullseye said:
It was conducted by Reuters/IPSOS according to the article:

I'd say the accuracy numbers are quite good.
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That paragraph is where I saw that it was an online poll.

This poll was conducted online by Reuters/Ipsos from December 7 to December 20 throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 4,214 adults, including 1,657 people who identified as Democrats and 1,505 who identified as Republicans. It has a “credibility interval,” a measure of the poll’s precision, of about 2 percentage points. Credibility interval = +/- 2% for total, +/- 3% for Democrats and Republicans, +/- 5% for Blacks and Hispanics.
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That it was done by Reuters/IPSOS is irrelevant to the fact that online polls are notoriously easy to manipulate by anyone that cares to. We even had that problem here at DP. And for the silliest of things even. I would imagine that the poll presented in the OP's link has more flaws as such polls often do not require people to log in to a site with a unique valid email address. If it can be proven that such did happen then I'd trust it more but I'm always skeptical of any online poll.
 
Kal'Stang said:
That paragraph is where I saw that it was an online poll.



That it was done by Reuters/IPSOS is irrelevant to the fact that online polls are notoriously easy to manipulate by anyone that cares to. We even had that problem here at DP. And for the silliest of things even. I would imagine that the poll presented in the OP's link has more flaws as such polls often do not require people to log in to a site with a unique valid email address. If it can be proven that such did happen then I'd trust it more but I'm always skeptical of any online poll.
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LOL, looks like this poll had a pretty good grasp on accuracy - and yes some online polls ARE inaccurate.
 
Kal'Stang said:
That paragraph is where I saw that it was an online poll.



That it was done by Reuters/IPSOS is irrelevant to the fact that online polls are notoriously easy to manipulate by anyone that cares to. We even had that problem here at DP. And for the silliest of things even. I would imagine that the poll presented in the OP's link has more flaws as such polls often do not require people to log in to a site with a unique valid email address. If it can be proven that such did happen then I'd trust it more but I'm always skeptical of any online poll.
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For most online polls just clear out your cookies after each vote and you can vote as many times as you want to.
 
Bullseye said:
I think your "analysis" of the situation (bolded) pretty much supports my thesis on media bias. :cool:
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True, just because you are paranoid it doesn’t mean that everyone is trying to persecute you. But I think conservatives are at odds with the general broadly liberal consensus that exists despite how folks label themselves. (“Liberal” has been trashed so long, even by the left, that we don’t even use the term any more.). Also, US conservatives may be the most to the right of any western society. Down the middle reporting on labor, consumer, women’s issues or civil rights can therefore seem to have a liberal bias.
 
joko104 said:
For most online polls just clear out your cookies after each vote and you can vote as many times as you want to.
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You don't even need to clear out all cookies...just the ones relevant to the site your visiting.
 
Media_Truth said:
Mostly NPR...
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You didn't learn about FOX from NPR since NPR doesn't focus on other outlets, shouldn't you actually spend some time watching news outlets before you form opinions about them?
 
bubbabgone said:
You didn't learn about FOX from NPR since NPR doesn't focus on other outlets, shouldn't you actually spend some time watching news outlets before you form opinions about them?
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They used to have FOX on at my workplace. It's just hard to believe how manipulative and dishonest they are. Almost of equal bias to their coverage is the news that they do NOT cover (my example earlier was the Republican skyrocketing deficit, since the tax cuts).
 
Media_Truth said:
They used to have FOX on at my workplace. It's just hard to believe how manipulative and dishonest they are. Almost of equal bias to their coverage is the news that they do NOT cover (my example earlier was the Republican skyrocketing deficit, since the tax cuts).
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Then I doubt you'd be able to mention any story that FOX hasn't covered because if the deficit following the tax cut was your example then you need a new example ... and there's a really good chance that'll be wrong too.
 
Interesting study but also flawed and strange.

I did not know that Rachel Maddow alone was considered a news organisation and that TMZ had news at all. What on earth is the point of them being there and not stuff like Facebook and Twitter? What about Pornhub?



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