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An example of a politically motivated headline

Methinks the OP would have been OK with article if the Guardian writer had mentioned in the headline that it was "Filthy" and or "Godless" Muslims who objected to the school curriculum?

Me thinks you have just shown yourself to be full of it.
 
So I was perusing some news and say this headline from the Guardian

School defends LGBT lessons after religious parents complain

So, what's wrong with this headline? Well strictly speaking nothing is factually wrong about it, but the impression it leaves is "religious" parents who can be of any religion oppose this curriculum. just garden variety generic religion right?

Well let's click this headline and read the story



so let's analyze the bolded, it says "predominately muslim" but in fact it was not "predominately muslim" it was entirely muslim, buried in the article is the tidbit this school is over 98% muslim pupils.

So why this bias? simple, they need to protect an agenda of intersectionality, and they want to make sure that whenever Islam is not compatible with the left's idea that this is downplayed and described in a way to downplay the fact muslims don't approve of their social causes.

You took flak for posting it but you're right.
Headlines are often meant to deceive.
Happens all the time and I've mentioned it myself.
People read the headlines and then abort the news mission.
And some, like those you've seen defending it here, don't mind the deception at all.
Couldn't keep their partisan ideology intact without it.
Another current example would be "Many Americans are upset their 2018 refunds shrunk after the GOP tax cuts" from the WAPO and others.
 
Christians bitching about Muslims.

They're both atheists. Just got one more god to kill before they're all atheists.
 
So I was perusing some news and say this headline from the Guardian

School defends LGBT lessons after religious parents complain

So, what's wrong with this headline? Well strictly speaking nothing is factually wrong about it, but the impression it leaves is "religious" parents who can be of any religion oppose this curriculum. just garden variety generic religion right?

Well let's click this headline and read the story



so let's analyze the bolded, it says "predominately muslim" but in fact it was not "predominately muslim" it was entirely muslim, buried in the article is the tidbit this school is over 98% muslim pupils.

So why this bias? simple, they need to protect an agenda of intersectionality, and they want to make sure that whenever Islam is not compatible with the left's idea that this is downplayed and described in a way to downplay the fact muslims don't approve of their social causes.

So wait, your crying because the article title which is 100% accurate didn't specify Muslims but all the info you used to get your info that YOU feel is wrong/not accurate came from the same article. . . .

riiiiiight so you are inventing somethign to be bothered by . . got it LMAO
 
1.) Marriage has never been defined as between two people of the same sex until only a few years ago and
2.) that definition was imposed by the courts and not through the people's representatives.
3.) Homosexuality should not be taught in school, the reason it is, is as part of a campaign against traditional family structure. .

1.) factually false gay marriage as been around for centuries
2.) wrong again the court ruled it was a equal/civil rights and a due process issue which is based off the constitutions which is in fact representative of the people
3.) you might wanna take this tin foil hat conspiracy theory to the proper forum LMAO its taught because its reality and asic facts. Just like teaching kids people are taller, shorter, skinnier, bigger, different religions, different sexes, different sexual orientation, different abilities etc etc etc its basic common sense
 
Christians bitching about Muslims.

They're both atheists. Just got one more god to kill before they're all atheists.

I think the point here is that, should a person simply read the headline, he or she is lead to believe something a little off of the truth.
And this deception appears to be on purpose.

Be that as it may...IMO Mt Sinai should be leveled. Every time a human climbs the damnable hill, a bush burns and fills some dumb bastard's head with all sorts of blood-curdling foolishness.
 
You're upset with a news headline because it wasn't specific enough for you? Lol

Bingo

the article title was 100% accurate and the info obtained by the OP which is complaint is based on came from the same article LOL
 
I think the point here is that, should a person simply read the headline, he or she is lead to believe something a little off of the truth.
And this deception appears to be on purpose.

Be that as it may...IMO Mt Sinai should be leveled. Every time a human climbs the damnable hill, a bush burns and fills some dumb bastard's head with all sorts of blood-curdling foolishness.

Megeddo ought to be leveled. Once that happens the christian zealots here will stop supporting israel and their idiotic nihilistic delusions will come to an end.

I agree, but the headline was fundamentally correct.
 
Am I understanding this properly? A gay white man, is trying to tell a predominately muslim school about people being different but they're still people who should receive the same respect and civility of anyone else but the 'religious' folks don't like that idea. Did I get that properly?
 
you might wanna take this tin foil hat conspiracy theory to the proper forum LMAO its taught because its reality and asic facts. Just like teaching kids people are taller, shorter, skinnier, bigger, different religions, different sexes, different sexual orientation, different abilities etc etc etc its basic common sense
Wait a second.
I don't think its such a stretch of imagination to think there is an assault going on to destroy the family unit.
Most marriages end in divorce. And really...the bottom line with homosexuality is that its a 'deviation' from natural sexual congress.
You wanna compare sexual deviance to physical attributes? To religious leanings? Sexual preference is not either a physical attribute nor is it a deeply entrenched religion. Homosexuality is widely accepted now. And so it should be in our society. I just don't think it needs to be taught to children as a 'natural' occurance. And I cannot accept this 'sexual orientation' thing. That's just perverse imo.
 
I think the point here is that, should a person simply read the headline, he or she is lead to believe something a little off of the truth.
And this deception appears to be on purpose.

Be that as it may...IMO Mt Sinai should be leveled. Every time a human climbs the damnable hill, a bush burns and fills some dumb bastard's head with all sorts of blood-curdling foolishness.

Well, they are idiots for only reading headlines. Many right winger can't be bothered to read or type more than a single line so its not surprising that the titles need to be as detailed and descriptive as possible
 
Wait a second.
1.) I don't think its such a stretch of imagination to think there is an assault going on to destroy the family unit.
2.) Most marriages end in divorce.
3.) And really...the bottom line with homosexuality is that its a 'deviation' from natural sexual congress.
4.) You wanna compare sexual deviance to physical attributes? To religious leanings? Sexual preference is not either a physical attribute nor is it a deeply entrenched religion.
5.) Homosexuality is widely accepted now. And so it should be in our society.
6.) I just don't think it needs to be taught to children as a 'natural' occurance.
7.) And I cannot accept this 'sexual orientation' thing. That's just perverse imo.

1.) an assault going on to destroy the family unit? :lamo
a factual assault going on and conducted by WHO?
2.) true and its been around that figure for how long? our entire lives? and hit peaks around WWII and now its actually coming down
3.) so what thats meaningless to anything being discussed here
4.) why would i care about retarded strawmen like that which are meaningless to the conspiracy type opinion that the family unit is under attack
5.) widely "accepted" well thats debatable . . equal rights has improved thats for sure but i dont know about widely "accepted" . . id agree with not as widely persecuted
6.) the way its taught is based on facts so i dont know what to tell you about that
7.) your acceptance and factually wrong opinions dont matter to facts but you are free to have them.

if you are going to respond dont for get to explain what factual assault is going on and by who . . thanks!
 
1.) I think the point here is that, should a person simply read the headline, he or she is lead to believe something a little off of the truth.
2.) And this deception appears to be on purpose.

1.)how does it possible "lead" to that
2.) what deception and what evidence is there it was done on purpose?

seems to me you are making stuff up again all based on feelings and nothign reality based and logically sound . .
 
Well, they are idiots for only reading headlines. Many right winger can't be bothered to read or type more than a single line so its not surprising that the titles need to be as detailed and descriptive as possible

Where you've typed up a whole theory here on a line and a half. :roll:
People on both sides type one-liners. Try not to be as misleading as that article please.
 
1.) an assault going on to destroy the family unit? :lamo
a factual assault going on and conducted by WHO?
Society at large. We all contribute, and I think it's obvious now that this is not producing optimal results.
2.) true and its been around that figure for how long? our entire lives? and hit peaks around WWII and now its actually coming down
I don't know what the current numbers or trends are, but its not good news. The family unit needs to be preserved, not torn to shreds.
3.) so what thats meaningless to anything being discussed here
Just stating a fact. A supporting fact.
4.) why would i care about retarded strawmen like that which are meaningless to the conspiracy type opinion that the family unit is under attack
It was your comparison. I just pointed out the problem with it.
5.) widely "accepted" well thats debatable . . equal rights has improved thats for sure but i dont know about widely "accepted" . . id agree with not as widely persecuted
Well, as a straight man I maybe don't have the perspective a homosexual man might have. But generally...ya I think its widely accepted.
6.) the way its taught is based on facts so i dont know what to tell you about that
I do not think its 'healthy' to be teaching about sexual deviance in grade schools.
7.) your acceptance and factually wrong opinions dont matter to facts but you are free to have them.

if you are going to respond dont for get to explain what factual assault is going on and by who . . thanks!
Opinion can't be wrong. That's why we call them "opinions". 1 is as valid as the next.
 
1.)how does it possible "lead" to that
2.) what deception and what evidence is there it was done on purpose?

seems to me you are making stuff up again all based on feelings and nothign reality based and logically sound . .

The headline reads:
School defends LGBT lessons after religious parents complain
Its a slanted misdirection which would lead most who simply read the title, to walk away thinking the worst of Christians. Or religious people in particular.
Are you really gonna try to say you don't see that?
 
1.)Society at large. We all contribute, and I think it's obvious now that this is not producing optimal results.
2.) I don't know what the current numbers or trends are, but its not good news. The family unit needs to be preserved, not torn to shreds.
3.)Just stating a fact. A supporting fact.
4.)It was your comparison. I just pointed out the problem with it.
5.) Well, as a straight man I maybe don't have the perspective a homosexual man might have. But generally...ya I think its widely accepted.
6.) I do not think its 'healthy' to be teaching about sexual deviance in grade schools.
7.)Opinion can't be wrong. That's why we call them "opinions". 1 is as valid as the next.

1.) We do? LMAO
how do we do that?
sounds to me you only accept what ever YOUR definition of a family unit is and thats not reality
2.) well since the trends have been about the same and its improving its not being torn to shreds. But i do agree id like to see it go up but the reality is equal rights for gays will HELP this not hurt it.
3.) yet still meaningless to the discussion
4.) no it wasnt thats what you invented in your head, hence which explain why you illogically think theres something dishonest about the article title
5.) well id argue your thoughts are void of reality since they still dont have ful equal rights and are persecuted everyday in many ways still
6.) your opinion of deviance is again meaningless to reality
7.) yes they can, if you have an opinion 2 = 2 = 896 that is factually wrong LMAO and again in this case your opinion on sexual orientation is factually wrong and not valid
 
1.) The headline reads:
2.) Its a slanted misdirection which would lead most who simply read the title, to walk away thinking the worst of Christians.
3.) Or religious people in particular.
4.) Are you really gonna try to say you don't see that?

1.) correct and that headline is 100% factually accurate
2.) nope there is no LEAD to Christianity at all, it says religious parents which is again accurate. Any assumption or lead to Christians is 100% made up in the readers head and has nothign to do with the accurate title
3.) nope just religious parents at this school like it says
4.) of course i dont see that because i dont make up illogical retarded assumptions in my head and deem them reality based on zero logic LOL
there is no logical reason to assume its Christians based off the headline . . at best a normal rational person if they care to know what religion these religious parents belong too they should read the article . . basic common sense.

Since im objective what religion they are doesn't matter to me so i dont guess and assume and make up stuff in my head :shrug:
 
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You took flak for posting it but you're right.
Headlines are often meant to deceive.
Happens all the time and I've mentioned it myself.
People read the headlines and then abort the news mission.
And some, like those you've seen defending it here, don't mind the deception at all.
Couldn't keep their partisan ideology intact without it.
Another current example would be "Many Americans are upset their 2018 refunds shrunk after the GOP tax cuts" from the WAPO and others.

What abject horse ****.
Your post is as dishonest as the news article.
You use "sound bytes" insinuation to cast a shadow over the OP's post.
Franky, it's clear that you, in particular, can never be taken seriously.

So calling a group of muslims and christians (both were involved) religious is "deceitful". You two are incredibly pathetic and if you read more than the headline of articles you wouldn't be butthurt in the first place. Cry harder, religious bigots, you're no different than the bigoted muslims.
 
Then what makes you think you should pretend to know another man's mind?

I never said it with certainty.

There is plenty of evidence, they provided, in their own post, for me to postulate my speculating.
 
Then what makes you think you should pretend to know another man's mind?

Something Maya Angelou and my learned grandfather both said, if by slightly differing words, have been words to live by.

Maya Angelou ~ "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

The OP has revealed much about themselves in their posting.
 
The headline reads:

Its a slanted misdirection which would lead most who simply read the title, to walk away thinking the worst of Christians. Or religious people in particular.
Are you really gonna try to say you don't see that?

LOL

What a load of BS.

Practicing Muslims aren't "religious people in particular"?

LOL

There is no misdirection in the article title.

None!
 
1.) correct and that headline is 100% factually accurate
2.) nope there is no LEAD to Christianity at all, it says religious parents which is again accurate. Any assumption or lead to Christians is 100% made up in the readers head and has nothign to do with the accurate title
3.) nope just religious parents at this school like it says
4.) of course i dont see that because i dont make up illogical retarded assumptions in my head and deem them reality based on zero logic LOL
there is no logical reason to assume its Christians based off the headline . . at best a normal rational person if they care to know what religion these religious parents belong too they should read the article . . basic common sense.

Since im objective what religion they are doesn't matter to me so i dont guess and assume and make up stuff in my head :shrug:

Well I completely disagree and think you are being willfully blind.
 
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